Since you guys seem so intent on overanalyzing what I said, let me give you a little history:
Many Mafia games have resulted in huge debates over whether or not to lynch me. Many times I've been killed Day 1 or Night 1 by the Town or the Mafia. Both seem to regard me as a serious threat.
Now obviously whatever I claim to be, you can't trust me. Anyone can be any role. So every time in the past I've claimed to be town, I've amended that to "of course I claim town; I'd claim that no matter what I actually was". At some point I stopped even doing that, and, like in this game, refuse to claim at all. You don't have any reason to trust me so I won't pretend you do; my stance is obviously that I am a townie. But I will never be able to prove that.
So at this stage, as a peace offering to other players (and frankly just smart playing), I suggest the best move is to lynch me eventually no matter how the game is going, because it's hard to distinguish between my playstyles. But the key is to do it eventually, but leave me alive for a while so I can help in case I am townie. This is what I do and I don't see any harm in it.
Again, history has shown a lot of early killing of me, and sometimes I was scum, sometimes I was town. Statistically, I will be town more often. And if you really think my post was that scummy, then have a look at some previous games:
I'm feeling pretty suspicious of Axle... Telling everyone to be careful of who they accuse and trust... It seems to me like he's really trying to convince everyone he's a Townie. Especially the bit with the being a Mafia last game. That would make people think he's not a Mafia again, but there is no rule that I know of the stops one person from being aligned to the same faction twice in a row.
That's fair. Additionally my posts have been very hard and cold. I apologize for wording things in such a way as to imply I'm not this game. Of course I'm going to say "I'm not Mafia", but I have no proof and your wariness is completely founded.
Was townie. Killed by the Mafia late game.
Umm, I agree with Axle, It was just a Jedi mind trick. But then again, what if Axle is trying to throw us off too. Maybe I don't know what I'm saying either... My head hurts.
Exactly. I could be trying to throw you off. At no point should you just take me word for it, because you can't trust anyone in this game. Look at the facts, look at my argument and the posts I refer to and make your own assessment.
This was Majora's Mask Mafia (4) and I was a Townie... with an extremely useful power role. Jo got a bandwagon going again me late in the first half of the game, roughly, and obviously regretted it later.
And, why should we trust you, again?
What part of my post asked you to trust me? Need I remind you that I'm always saying don't trust anyone, including in
this game?
Same game. Actually it reminds me a lot of this, because Jo was pretty militant against me. While Ky is less so, he's doing the same thing she did: Being dodgy and having abstract reasoning.
I have no interest in roleclaiming, even claiming to be a townie, but needless to say my official stance is that I am town, and given that your investigation of me claims this is a fact, I am slightly more convinced of your innocence, if not your trustworthiness.
This was Batman Mafia (5). Interestingly, I was Mafia in this game. The Godfather no less. Jo was the Cop and investigated me, and of course I was shown to be innocent. If I recall that was the only major suspicion I received during that game. I
did die, but from hammering a bomb, not from being lynched (we still won, too). I was rather trusted in this game, ironically, and often bandwagoned in later games as a result. This is why I say it: Do not trust me. When I am Mafia, it won't look any different. But in every other game, I am a valuable ally. So don't kill me early, but don't let me live until the very end
ever.
And here's another fact. Josh hasn't exactly contributed a lot this game. I have. Now I could still be scum, but given that I'm trying to spur activity (and even complaining that I'm the only one posting), if I'm killed and I'm the wrong lynch, then that's going to hurt the Town. And not that you have any reason to believe me, but I'm trying to help the Town. Even if I'm the Serial Killer (which frankly I'm more likely to be, since Keyshe was hitting me so hard for like 2 Days), my priorities would be to hunt Mafia, as there are so many left alive.
Ah, this is my personal favorite. This was Pokemafia, and I was the Serial Killer. I was actually telling the absolute truth here, though I acknowledged they couldn't trust me: I was trying to help the Town. As a Serial Killer, I couldn't win with too many Mafia live, so I was scrambling to kill more Mafia. Towards the end of the game I claimed Serial Killer and worked with the Town, because my nightkill immunity and nightkill powers were the only thing keeping the Town alive at that point and I needed their trust. Keeping me alive
as a confirmed Serial Killer guaranteed a Town victory at the end.
It's also a huge testament to my skill as a player and proof they're not empty claims: I killed more Mafia that game than any other player, nailing many of them (and the Cop, to boot), so I'm a sharp investigator. I was also able to survive until the late game as a Serial Killer.
And maybe I provided distraction for someone else to just sneak in and post something extremely suspicious, very unlikely, because I'm pro-town trying to have fun with a game. We don't have to be super serious throughout the entire game. Its the first day. But, if you really think that I'm worthy of a lynch, be my guest.
Yes, you're pro-town, same as I. That statement means nothing, just as your roleclaim means nothing. It's a statement that cannot be trusted nor relied on in any way shape or form. No, we don't have to be super serious and you might have noticed I made a few jokes myself a few pages ago, but first day is still part of the game. And no matter what, every action is a part of the game and should be scrutinized, joke or otherwise. As I said, Mafia distract, and jokes can be distracting even if Townies do them too, so I don't intend to rule out jokes if they feel weird. Your actions don't sit right with me.
Included from earlier in the same game to illustrate why I make this point. David was acting suspicious to me, and one of his defending lines was "I am pro-town". This is
utterly empty. Anyone can claim this. That's why I say this line so often.
He implied he was town on the first day, this is without a doubt suspicious.
Here he is using bad logic trying to cover for himself. He is showing that he has been backed into a corner.
Everyone claims they are Town. You can basically assume that is their stance without bothering to ask, so I fail to see where you're coming from at all. And his "bad logic", is...?
In this game I was a townie, and the bomb.
Bottom line: I've made this statement totally independant of role, and it is a regular behavior. If you think I'm suspicious before it, you'd better have a good extended reason.
EBWODP: "Since you guys seem so intent on overanalyzing what I said, let me give you a little history:"
Didn't mean to make that sound so combative, and I realize no one's said that in a while. Sorry. This is my last post on the subject of my "questionable" post, and it's my final explanation for it. If you're going to vote for me because of it... then I've got nothing else to say.
