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mods confirmed my delay couldn't stop the NK

Wolves probably would've won if numbers' babyface was handled correctly. I probably would've considered him cleared because of the weapon thing and him having two lives means that we would have had to lynch him basically the day we did or we would have lost. I would guess the setup is still...

my role pm, for posterity's sake

i would guess it is an attempt to keep the role from being too powerful, and it does act as a nerf. Mikey giving us information and us being able to work with him to analyze that information is a lot better than mikey getting the information and only being able to analyze it himself. He's a...

maybe one of the dead players wants to replace into the game as the host?

Vote: Numbers

Vote: Numbers just in case ig

at least we shouldn't have to worry about an accurate votecount

@DekuNut @returnofMCH idk what hammer rules you two are playing by but if hammers are in you can end the day now

yup probably the best self-hammer i've seen, in terms of style.

hopefully this ends today or tomorrow is going to be pretty awkward

holy **** exlight and mikey came back from the dead

i do not disagree

i like chocolate milk

me and numbers at least seem pretty anti-raven. i don't know if libk and killjoy have really said anything about him

Neon - 3 (Rag, Libk, Numbers) Libk - 1 (Neon) Numbers - 1 (Killjoy) Not Voting - 2 (Raven, Minish) could be wrong i think day ends ~50 minutes ago

and clearly he misunderstood what he was and wasn't allowed to claim since he died anyways. The first mod post after he said he couldn't claim his upside had him modkilled. The mods are relatively inactive so we don't know what it was they responded to

What you're proposing doesn't make sense to me. Its because he didn't choose a target that he should get the item first, over someone who did choose a target. Ultimately the host is the one who decides what order conflicting abilities resolve in, and so their opinion on what makes sense is what...

Wouldn't it make more sense for the passive to take priority since they don't choose a target? could you post a link to the comment? maybe he gets modkilled if he claims that he can't claim

maybe if he claims he gets modkilled. There are lots of feasible reasons he could have for not wanting to claim. Its possible that he is scum with neon and that neon stole my item. I want to lynch neon today anyways though, so it doesn't change the optimal play.

I would assume that if Numbers is an item thief and target Seanzie n1, his action would resolve after it being given to Raven. Since Raven's is passive.

ultimately there are tons of reasons numbers could feasibly have been capable of stealing an item from me on N2 but didn't (to the town's knowledge) steal any item on N1 or N3. There's no real basis to say that he doesn't have the ability to steal items. The only basis to say that he does is...

Or he could have targeted Seanzie n1 and his action failed because raven got the item. Mafia would likely not claim a stolen item because it gives information to the town and its better for them if the town has less information. It could also make the claim of whoever was responsible stronger...

either because he holstered other nights, got blocked, targeted a player that died before they could claim (though i don't think anyone fits the bill that raven hasn't claimed?), can only steal under certain conditions that were only fulfilled n2, only had a 1-shot item steal effect, has an...

the reason you would have claimed indept is so that the mafia don't kill you. You would have selectively hid, shared, and lied about details of your role with town to make yourself seem like as small of a threat as possible, but if you have kill immunity would feel relatively safe knowing that...

i use a sort of camel case when writing. My first sentence in a paragraph always begins with a lowercase letter and the first letter of each subsequent sentence is capitalized. I wouldn't be surprised if i occasionally broke this pattern since its not something I do consciously but it seems to...

or alternatively related to one of the mystery mechanics (ala seanzie) raven referred to. I still think it points towards numbers being town.

it could have in theory been a passive scum ability that triggered when targeted or something similar, which would make neon scum anyways

neon is then the only reasonable elimination today in my mind

i guess by process of elimination numbers is the only person who hasn't claimed and thus the only person who could be responsible unless a non-town somehow did it, so numbers is probably town

nobody on town is claiming to be responsible so a non-town player somehow being responsible seems to be the most likely case. Do you know the names of the players who's items you've taken?

upon reading back you're correct minish's cop claim fits in my eyes

although mikey himself seemed to think he was townreading neon at some point so maybe i'm wrong

Mikey said someone in the scumchat commented on being townread by him. The only players Mikey really expresses a solid townread on are Minish and myself, which makes minish look a lot worse.

and in the event of an early hammer, protective roles should probably target me and minish tonight. I'd suggest @Killjoy262 target minish tonight and that @Libk target myself tonight. @Neon should probably never target me or minish, but should otherwise target whoever they think is most likely...

i believe numbers is at L-1 currently, so i will refrain from voting him, but i will say @15377 Its likely that you'll be lynched if you don't claim today. Considering town is in an otherwise decent position I can't imagine you not claiming here is anything other than a self-pres gambit or a...

REMAINING PLAYERS 1: Morbid Minish - Cop, Targeted Ex N2, Blocked N1, N3. Ex was her top suspect D1 and switched to a townread D2, which was allegedly the result of a cop shot but could also be because minish was reading ex as scum partially because of the possibility of a cynica/ex pair (and...

were you told that you were jailed/roleblocked minish, or only that your action failed?

that might go against your creed of not caring about yourself as town though

i am not too surprised this does put some pressure on us to lynch scum today

ninja is a passive role that can't be tracked or watched. almost always mafia.

most protective roles aren't confirmable in any way so its strange to think of a mafia role as being able to pass as protective ig rolecops exist

minish often says things that are odd to me, but i do find it odd as well.

there's the potential for extra information stacking targets as well, because you know exactly what the town missed out on night 1 (ie: if you block and rolecop a tracker then you know its safer for you to fakeclaim targets n1). I can see spreading the targets being the better play still though.

@Neon does your ability prevent your target from being targeted or only from dying?

they didn't, though they did claim that they had ex as their top suspect on day 1 and as their top townread on day 2. I haven't gone back to check whether or not this is actually the case.

What extra information do you gain?

the idea is that if mafia has a roleblocker and also a rolecop then they block her n1 by coincidence and also rolecop her and find out she's a cop so they make a point out of blocking her again on n3. If your claim is to believed you were responsible for blocking her both times though. To be...

day would continue like normal. survivors typically look to side with wolves in this situation though, because they win if town is lynched but not if wolves win.

because he was the person who i was most confident was town