The wagon on Rag yesterday picked up steam rather quickly and I don’t think it was entirely pure. I feel like by the time votes pile on like that the person is probably town, hence why I ended up voting elsewhere.
Here’s a post I drafted during the night phase. Idk who died yet but I knew I’d be at work for start of day so I wanted to get my thoughts out as soon as possible.
So I’ll ask now, did you have a reason for suspecting Rag? I realize it’s part of your playstyle to just throw around suspicion without explanation, but when that person flipped green it’s helpful to know why exactly you thought they were scummy.
I get why people are saying scum wouldn’t be this reckless, and his teammates likely would never let him do this. However, if I was scum with Chevy in this situation, I would probably tell him to find his own way out of this hole. So I don’t really think it’s likely this was a scum Chevy move, but I would absolutely not give him a pass for this. I also find it hard to buy that Chevy had enough time to read and properly analyze SMS’s ISO before placing this vote as it occurred less than 3 minutes after SMS posted it.
This is a pretty good ISO. My only concern is the timing of it, since it came after SMS’s opinion on Rag had already been influenced by other players. I feel like it is much easier to scum read players (as scum, I should say) after people explain to you the reasons why that player is being scum read, so it’s equally easy to apply that logic to an ISO.
I’m not necessarily scum reading SMS for this, since I still think he was fairly townish before, but this is something that I noticed and something I see scum do fairly frequently (myself included). I think of it as hiding your sheeping under the guise of an ISO.
I’m also not sure how to feel about the quickness of this turnaround. Ex says it best in https://zeldadungeon.net/forum/threads/boks-fantasy-book-mafia.70120/post-1272396]245[/url]
Good Libk post. My main issue is the number of null reads, because null reads are super easy to make and more than half of them are nulls. I think by this point everyone should be able to make a full list of town/scum reads, but I can also acknowledge that Libk likely had a lot of catching up to do.
As a whole, I appreciate this post for what it is and the town/scum reads seem fair enough. I also like that he isn’t giving Kirino a pass, though I’m not sure I really agree with the read as Kirino has looked fairly town to me.
Libk’s is probably the Chevy vote that I like the most, because it has a sincere explanation to it and doesn’t feel opportunistic (I can also appreciate that it was probably at least partially in the interest of self pres).
Overall a solid entrance for Libk and one that makes me glad he didn’t ultimately end up being the day’s lynch.
Lol I remember those days.
I like this look from Mikey though if Chevy flips scum, earlier tunneling aside. Asking the vig to shoot someone is easier to buy than a bus.
Here’s a post I drafted during the night phase. Idk who died yet but I knew I’d be at work for start of day so I wanted to get my thoughts out as soon as possible.
I really appreciate the pun, and you did mention you would be fine with voting Rag in an earlier post, but I looked back through your posts and you never actually said why you thought she was suspicious. The seeds were planted when Chevy asked you to vote for me and you said you’d rather vote for Rag or Mido, but up until the EoD you never said why you wanted to vote in that direction. Then you joined a wagon that had two RVS votes on it and which ended up being town.
So I’ll ask now, did you have a reason for suspecting Rag? I realize it’s part of your playstyle to just throw around suspicion without explanation, but when that person flipped green it’s helpful to know why exactly you thought they were scummy.
I get this logic, but I find it rather silly. Being part of one’s meta is not an excuse to not participate when a lot was happening, especially when that person comes in later and says “lol I’m gonna keep my RVS vote cuz wynaut” which ends up resulting in a mislynch.
Self pres, not much to read into here.
This is an awfully quick turnaround, even for a newbie.
I get why people are saying scum wouldn’t be this reckless, and his teammates likely would never let him do this. However, if I was scum with Chevy in this situation, I would probably tell him to find his own way out of this hole. So I don’t really think it’s likely this was a scum Chevy move, but I would absolutely not give him a pass for this. I also find it hard to buy that Chevy had enough time to read and properly analyze SMS’s ISO before placing this vote as it occurred less than 3 minutes after SMS posted it.
That said, this vote does read as slightly opportunistic (I’d say the same about Mikey’s if he hadn’t been tunneling Chevy most of the day). Wouldn’t put it past Johnny to use this as an easy bussing opportunity if they’re scumbuds. Not using this to form a read on either of them right now, but just as something to keep in mind later in case either of them flip.
Plausible enough to keep your RVS vote on her? (meant to post this last night before EoD but my boss caught me on my phone just as I was about to post it and I lost it oopsie).
This is a pretty good ISO. My only concern is the timing of it, since it came after SMS’s opinion on Rag had already been influenced by other players. I feel like it is much easier to scum read players (as scum, I should say) after people explain to you the reasons why that player is being scum read, so it’s equally easy to apply that logic to an ISO.
I’m not necessarily scum reading SMS for this, since I still think he was fairly townish before, but this is something that I noticed and something I see scum do fairly frequently (myself included). I think of it as hiding your sheeping under the guise of an ISO.
I’m also not sure how to feel about the quickness of this turnaround. Ex says it best in https://zeldadungeon.net/forum/threads/boks-fantasy-book-mafia.70120/post-1272396]245[/url]
Good Libk post. My main issue is the number of null reads, because null reads are super easy to make and more than half of them are nulls. I think by this point everyone should be able to make a full list of town/scum reads, but I can also acknowledge that Libk likely had a lot of catching up to do.
As a whole, I appreciate this post for what it is and the town/scum reads seem fair enough. I also like that he isn’t giving Kirino a pass, though I’m not sure I really agree with the read as Kirino has looked fairly town to me.
Libk’s is probably the Chevy vote that I like the most, because it has a sincere explanation to it and doesn’t feel opportunistic (I can also appreciate that it was probably at least partially in the interest of self pres).
Overall a solid entrance for Libk and one that makes me glad he didn’t ultimately end up being the day’s lynch.
This is probably the Rag vote that I like the most, and it’s fair enough. I wouldn’t have wanted to lynch Libk after his entrance either and with so little time left in the day there weren’t many more options. In the spirit of transparency, however, it is important to note this vote brought Rag back to L-1.
Where did either of them come from lol.
lmao tru
I like this a lot.
I also really like this push. Shame Chevy never responded to it.
I really don’t like this. I get wanting to sit back, but this just seems like a lame excuse to contribute to what ended up being – and by the end was pretty obviously going to be - a mislynch.
LIST=SCUM!!11!!!1!1
Lol I remember those days.
Almost as if I said multiple times that I was working through EoD!
I like this look from Mikey though if Chevy flips scum, earlier tunneling aside. Asking the vig to shoot someone is easier to buy than a bus.
