Breath of the Wild Timeline: Where is the game going to go?

[Jamie]

People have been trying to find where in the live stream Aonuma says this but myself and other fans have not been able to find the quote. If you can give the actual time Aonuma says this, I'll believe it.

I would love this to be true. Need more love in the child timeline. I guess Nerdist was just too excited to fact check. Course, if you find the quote then all the better.

I agree, I'd like to see the source.

 

[Dio]

People have been trying to find where in the live stream Aonuma says this but myself and other fans have not been able to find the quote. If you can give the actual time Aonuma says this, I'll believe it.

I would love this to be true. Need more love in the child timeline. I guess Nerdist was just too excited to fact check. Course, if you find the quote then all the better.

I'm not going to take the time to trawl through the footage for that. Hopefully someone else will soon.

 

[Frozen Chosen]

I'm not going to take the time to trawl through the footage for that. Hopefully someone else will soon.

I did...

 

[Jamie]

Yeah its not majorly reported anywhere so for now I'm not trusting it.

 

[Ominethious]

So fine, what could the great flood explain about this games placement in the timeline. Nothing, it can't be a prequel to Wind Waker, either.

 

[Lozjam]

So fine, what could the great flood explain about this games placement in the timeline. Nothing, it can't be a prequel to Wind Waker, either.

This could be way after Wind Waker. When the seas have retreated and the world is here. Of which Hyrule is rebuilt(and then destroyed yet again).

 

[DeactivatedUser2]

So fine, what could the great flood explain about this games placement in the timeline. Nothing, it can't be a prequel to Wind Waker, either.

Some people see it as a sequel where the flood has receded and Hyrule has been unearthed once again (not a follower of this theory as I feel like it would completely ruin the end of Wind Waker but whatever)


EDIT: sniped by lozjam

 

[Ominethious]

Some people see it as a sequel where the flood has receded and Hyrule has been unearthed once again (not a follower of this theory as I feel like it would completely ruin the end of Wind Waker but whatever)


EDIT: sniped by lozjam

I 1 up your bit at the end, but in all honesty, do you think that the islands in wind Waker just float on the water? It would take incredibly long ammounts of time for the former islands to collapse, and reform old Hyrule. Plus it won't explain why all the old geological formations still exist even after the great flood. For me the only 2 logical placements would be in the fall timeline, or right after TP.

 

[Ominethious]

As of the Koroks, look in the livestream that showed the one appearing in the pond. They said it was an Easter egg. Which as you know aren't to be taken seriously, or are meta to the plot

 

[Dio]

This could be way after Wind Waker. When the seas have retreated and the world is here. Of which Hyrule is rebuilt(and then destroyed yet again).

An unflooded hyrule was I think what the Koroks wanted to achieve or at least to create a new land, perhaps they had a hand in this. But things against a post flood Hyrule are the temple of time existing and also a Hylia statue. Surely that Goddess would have passed out of memory after WW.

 

[Lozjam]

An unflooded hyrule was I think what the Koroks wanted to achieve or at least to create a new land, perhaps they had a hand in this. But things against a post flood Hyrule are the temple of time existing and also a Hylia statue. Surely that Goddess would have passed out of memory after WW.

Perhaps it was Hylia herself that came back and helped the Koroks rebuild Hyrule.

She has herself communicated with Hylians before, and she could do that again as well.

It may be that Link has even met Hylia as well. At the Hylia statue link can actually go and pray at the statue as well, so clearly there is a ton of reverance.

On a similar note as well, in both the Downfall timeline and the Child timeline, the legends and knowledge of Hylia has also faded too. Hylia hasn't been mentioned at all in those timelines too.

 

[Dio]

Perhaps it was Hylia herself that came back and helped the Koroks rebuild Hyrule.

She has herself communicated with Hylians before, and she could do that again as well.

It may be that Link has even met Hylia as well. At the Hylia statue link can actually go and pray at the statue as well, so clearly there is a ton of reverance.

On a similar note as well, in both the Downfall timeline and the Child timeline, the legends and knowledge of Hylia has also faded too. Hylia hasn't been mentioned at all in those timelines too.

That's because the Goddess lowered herself into human form. Zelda is all that is left of Hylia so how can she come back and there still be Zelda.

 

[DeactivatedUser2]

Perhaps it was Hylia herself that came back and helped the Koroks rebuild Hyrule.

She has herself communicated with Hylians before, and she could do that again as well.

It may be that Link has even met Hylia as well. At the Hylia statue link can actually go and pray at the statue as well, so clearly there is a ton of reverance.

On a similar note as well, in both the Downfall timeline and the Child timeline, the legends and knowledge of Hylia has also faded too. Hylia hasn't been mentioned at all in those timelines too.

Hylia's reincarnate is Zelda, who, at the time, was in the kingdom of New Hyrule in Spirit Tracks (and assumingly most of the centuries after.) Basically, it would only be the new generations of Zelda after ST that could help (assuming they came back to the Great Sea in the first place) who wouldn't have even known she was Hylia.

 

[hwrdjacob]

There's tons, and tons, and tons of evidence pointing to this being Zelda 3 after 30 years.

I guess I should start with the big ones, the Master Sword and Calamity Ganon.

The Master Sword is literally rotting away.
Let me reiterate.
Literally rotting away.

LITERALLY ROTTING AWAY!!!!!!!

This almost completely rules out this game taking place ANYWHERE before ANY game that features the Master Sword, since it and the pedestal of time are in almost pristine condition whereas even the pedestal in BotW is broken and overgrown with foliage!

It seems the Master Sword has been lost to the ages and long forgotten, which Fits with the lore of the NES games and ALttP/ALBW

Quote from ALttP's manual, "The Sages first had to search for the Master Sword and a hero to use it." this strongly implies that even the SAGES had lost track of the Master Sword by the time ALttP rolls around (And no, Hyrule Historia just doesnt work with the canon of ALttP, so I don't tend to follow it in any capacity; however, I find this game being Zelda 3 works even by lowered HH standards). Given that ALttP was made as a direct prequel to LoZ according to both the US box and Japanese instruction manual, it would seem they originally wrote the Master Sword in in such a way they could explain why it is missing from NES Zelda, where the Master Sword is COMPLETELY GONE. BotW might even revolve around a quest for the Master Sword, with the Master Sword being an ultimate weapon found at the very end of the game (If it was midgame, what would be the point of giving Link Axes and Lances/Spears?), maybe along the lines of the Fierce Deity Mask in how it makes the final boss a cakewalk (It's been reported Ganon can theoretically be fought immediately after starting the game). The Master Sword is lost to the ages during the NES games, which fits with the Master Sword

Let me reiterate

LITERALLY ROTTING AWAY!!!!!!!

We see on the title logo the Master Sword is cracked and rusted, and in the trailer that the pedestal of time is overgrown and ruined, which is worse than it was even in ALBW and TP, which again indicates both this can not take place before a game with the Master Sword (unless someone did some serious restoration work) and it fits with the lore of being lost to time in the NES games. The game being a quest to locate the master sword (at least in part) and the aforementioned blade being the ultimate weapon would make Link's extended arsenal not pointless.

Calamity Ganon is built up to be completely inhuman, to the point they don't use "he" but rather "it". It appears as a formless vapor and did exactly what Ganon did in LoZ- ravaged Hyrule and made it a ruinous landscape. This makes me think, due to the formless and demonic nature of Ganon, that this Calamity Ganon is the purest remnant of a Ganon that has died- which would leave only Post WW, Post TP, or post LoZ (arguably post ALttP or ALBW even though those get wrapped up nicely). Combine this with the point about this needing to take place after any master sword game, and the Master Sword doing a little dance with Ariel under the sea in the AT, and we have this game being able to be nothing less than Zelda 3. This would also rule out it being post FSA in HH's version of the timeline since according to that timeline Ganon is sealed, not dead.

The HUGE scale can also be explained by both Link's wish at the end of AoL and the Hylian Empire theory, which is that Hyrule expanded it's territory in the NES games (backed up by LoZ's manual and LoZ Hyrule being only a small area of AoL)

Furthermore, it's possible the Link they resurrected is Skyward Sword Link, since he became the King of Hyrule eventually, and BotW Link is right handed. If this is a previous Link, SKYWARD SWORD LINK IS THE ONLY LINK WHO IS CANONICALLY RIGHT HANDED, unless ambidexterity is involved.

The apacolyptic nature of the game also makes putting BotW prior to ANY game a hard sell since Nintendo would have to clean everything up and pretend it never happened at the end.

 

[Frozen Chosen]

Furthermore, it's possible the Link they resurrected is Skyward Sword Link, since he became the King of Hyrule eventually, and BotW Link is right handed. If this is a previous Link, SKYWARD SWORD LINK IS THE ONLY LINK WHO IS CANONICALLY RIGHT HANDED, unless ambidexterity is involved.

In a cutscene seen during the demo, it says that Link has been asleep for 100 years. The only way it could be Skyward Sword Link if it is post SS and pre Ocarina of Time, but the temple of time is there in the demo so I'm thinking post OOT.

We see on the title logo the Master Sword is cracked and rusted, and in the trailer that the pedestal of time is overgrown and ruined, which is worse than it was even in ALBW and TP, which again indicates both this can not take place before a game with the Master Sword (unless someone did some serious restoration work) and it fits with the lore of being lost to time in the NES games. The game being a quest to locate the master sword (at least in part) and the aforementioned blade being the ultimate weapon would make Link's extended arsenal not pointless.

Calamity Ganon is built up to be completely inhuman, to the point they don't use "he" but rather "it". It appears as a formless vapor and did exactly what Ganon did in LoZ- ravaged Hyrule and made it a ruinous landscape. This makes me think, due to the formless and demonic nature of Ganon, that this Calamity Ganon is the purest remnant of a Ganon that has died- which would leave only Post WW, Post TP, or post LoZ (arguably post ALttP or ALBW even though those get wrapped up nicely). Combine this with the point about this needing to take place after any master sword game, and the Master Sword doing a little dance with Ariel under the sea in the AT, and we have this game being able to be nothing less than Zelda 3. This would also rule out it being post FSA in HH's version of the timeline since according to that timeline Ganon is sealed, not dead

With this logic it could still very well be after Twilight Princess, as well as "Zelda 3". What can't it be after TP?

I liked all the things you've pointed out.