Breath of the Wild Timeline: Where is the game going to go?

[hwrdjacob]

In a cutscene seen during the demo, it says that Link has been asleep for 100 years. The only way it could be Skyward Sword Link if it is post SS and pre Ocarina of Time, but the temple of time is there in the demo so I'm thinking post OOT.



With this logic it could still very well be after Twilight Princess, as well as "Zelda 3". What can't it be after TP?

I liked all the things you've pointed out.

Ah, good point about the 100 years thing. Maybe it's NES Link then? I still think Temple of *Resurrection* is an odd name if he's just sleeping, unless it was the Big Sleep. It's possible they resurrected SS Link 100 years prior to BotW, but that's extremely speculative.

It could theoretically be after TP (in nintendo's bull**** timeline anyway) but again it's a hard sell since they'd have to pretend everything never happened or retcon FSA out of canon entirely, since Hyrule is wiped pretty much off the entire map by Calamity Ganon (which also happened in the NES original). But it is EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS they made an entire video titled "The NES connection". Wolf Link is an amiibo, and the other two franchises which put amiibo as canonically elements implied the player themself summoned them with the amiibo (Fates and Smash Bros, the former of which made Smash Bros canon to FE) which implies a Nintendo Multiverse to some degree, meaning since it's an amiibo Wolf Link can be summoned into any timeline. If you don't like the explaination of it being amiibo itself that summons him, notice he's beamed in by the Shiekah Slate, which WE KNOW has some control over time and could probably summon him from another timeline entirely.

All of this is moot to me personally since I consider the timeline Below in my signature canon, which places nintendo's DT order after FSA VVVVV look below. But it still works even by HH standards, in fact, it works in BOTH this timeline and HH (which is a whole other topic and I've ripped apart every reason it can not be correct probably three times already, even ALBW contradicts HH

On that note, it's probably not the Temple of Time from OoT unless they moved the Master Sword to the sealed temple as in the relocated Master Sword theory, it could be a completely new ToT. It's possible the Sacred Grove has been the Temple of Hylia this whole time and the Master Sword was moved back to it, which would make it POSSIBLE this is the OoT ToT, if not unlikely due to it's absence in all other games sans WW.

 

[Frozen Chosen]

Wolf Link is an amiibo, and the other two franchises which put amiibo as canonically elements implied the player themself summoned them with the amiibo (Fates and Smash Bros, the former of which made Smash Bros canon to FE) which implies a Nintendo Multiverse to some degree, meaning since it's an amiibo Wolf Link can be summoned into any timeline. If you don't like the explaination of it being amiibo itself that summons him, notice he's beamed in by the Shiekah Slate, which WE KNOW has some control over time and could probably summon him from another timeline entirely.

Yeah, I'm under the mindset that it's just a regular wolf that looks like Wolf Link that is summoned. But I could be totally wrong and it could very well be a teleportation of TP Wolf Link.

I also think that it won't have anything to do with the story but I could be completely wrong.

 

[hwrdjacob]

Yeah, I'm under the mindset that it's just a regular wolf that looks like Wolf Link that is summoned. But I could be totally wrong and it could very well be a teleportation of TP Wolf Link.

I also think that it won't have anything to do with the story but I could be completely wrong.

The fact it has the same amount of hearts as you did at the end of TPHD's cave of shadows pretty much quashes any argument it isn't indeed TP Link, but again it's more than likely an amiibo empowered teleportation, or a Shiekah Slate teleportation. It might have something to do with the fact the cave of shadows seems to be a shrine to Wolf Link. That does, however, free TP Link's appearance from timeline restrictions which is something Aonuma has for some reason bemoaned as of late.

I do agree it probably won't have anything to do with the story, beyond maybe explaining how powerful the Shiekah Slate is.

The thing about it being LoZ3 is A: Nintendo won't get as big a reaction from the longtime fans (here since the NES days longtime) out of "Oh look TP2" as much as "LOOK WE MADE ZELDA F***ING 3 AFTER 30 YEARS GUYS"
B: Nintendo won't have the same problem as TP where they had to clean everything up and pretend it never happened for FSA (which is why Midna shattered the Mirror of Twilight so they could act like it never happened afterword) Because it's not effectively a prequel; it's the first true sequel in the series since Zelda 2, so there's nothing that comes later for them to have to account for
C: It fits the theme of returning to the NES roots

 

[RuMbLePaKk]

Guys i made a seperate post with a theory regarding this, pretty much saying this games place in the timeline is after all events that happened so far, meaning the decline, child and adult time lines had an event that occurrd tieing all three back into one timeline.

 

[hwrdjacob]

Another note- Hylia worship may be something that post SS was practiced exclusively by the Shiekah, and in this game maybe the Shiekah/Sages will be the only ones to reference her, which would fit with Hylia worship disappearing

 

[hwrdjacob]

Guys i made a seperate post with a theory regarding this, pretty much saying this games place in the timeline is after all events that happened so far, meaning the decline, child and adult time lines had an event that occurrd tieing all three back into one timeline.

No offense but I don't particularly buy it. It's just too needlessly complicated when the obvious answer is Zelda 3, the Koroks are such a rediculously stupid handwave in hindsight it's likely they exist in both timelines. Nintendo might retcon HH to the correct timeline shown below but Im not getting my hopes up.

So it's SS>OoT>MM>TP>TMC>FS>FSA>ALttP>OoX>LA>ALBW>LoZ>AoL>BotW for the more consistent version of the child timeline and

SS>OoT>ALttP>OoX>LA>ALBW>TFH>LoZ>AoL>BotW

Based on what we know so far both will 100% work if they play their hand waves right. (Kokiri became Koroks after leaving the forest in all timelines and Wolf Link is summoned from TP by the Shiekah Slate+Amiibo)

It's POSSIBLE it's TP2 but it's extremely unlikely unless they retcon FSA

 

[Castle]

Naturally not every Zelda game fits anywhere specific. That's why Ninty had to shoehorn everything into their nintendo-logic three-branch timeline. But it's safe to say there's still a general placement for BotW.

I'm thinking it comes dead last.

Reasoning?

If Ninty rebooted Zelda, I'd imagine it would look like this. I'm not saying that's what they're doing. BotW seems to possess its own style (bland :/) while drawing disparate elements from other Zelda games. We've already seen Koroks, who only feature in WW. But we know Hyrule has been in ruins for at least a century and that's maybe how long Link has been in stasis. He also appears to have his mission from the start. So whatever it is he's doing, it was known about and planned for (uncharacteristically forward thinking from the Hylians there - Zelda's almost surely responsible for that). Also, nothing about this Link suggests he's any previous Link. Maybe an older ALttP Link?

The only wrench - and I dunno if this thread's mentioned it yet - is that Aunoma mumbled something vague and nondescript about Twilight Princess - or specifically the Twili iirc - possibly indicating a connection. Dunno. That's probably Aunoma blowing smoke up our asses again anyway, so I'd take it with a grain of salt. But if true I'd hazard it would be in regards to either the origin of the Twili or the return of the Twili. If the Twili are related to the Sheikah, that would also make sense.

 

[manpaint]

It does seem strange they would come about in other timelines where no flood occurred. And after the flood seems unlikely as there is the temple of time from OOT which would have been washed away with Hyrule due to the Kings wish.

It's been reported Aounuma said this game takes place hundreds of years after TP in in this video at 1:40ish.

According to the video this would have been quoted in this video but im unable to find it.

 

[Dio]

According to the video this would have been quoted in this video but im unable to find it.

It's definitely not in there.

 

[manpaint]

It's definitely not in there.

Yep the after tp thing is bull****.

 

[Ominethious]

Yep the after tp thing is bull****.

Then why would Aounuma include Wolf-Link as a companion, and here's what gets me:

In TP old Hyrule castle, and castle town were abandoned, the forest took over, and caused the dilapidation of the Temple of Time. While the Hylians built the new castle, and town far from the old one. The Sacred Grove is where you receive the Master Sword. But riddle me this:

Would a massive war involving those highly destructive robots not destroy a forest, and deform the terrain. .-. As for Manic Gannon, we do not even know what the mist like abomination is to begin with.

Though, as far as the return of the Twili is concerned, it might not happen. Midna destroyed the Mirror Of Twilight, and all the Twili realm was kicked out of Hyrule. Unless Midna is so powerful with the Fused Shadow to build another mirror and finds a reason to come back, then we might see the Twili in some form.

 

[manpaint]

Then why would Aounuma include Wolf-Link as a companion, and here's what gets me:

In TP old Hyrule castle, and castle town were abandoned, the forest took over, and caused the dilapidation of the Temple of Time. While the Hylians built the new castle, and town far from the old one. The Sacred Grove is where you receive the Master Sword. But riddle me this:

Would a massive war involving those highly destructive robots not destroy a forest, and deform the terrain. .-. As for Manic Gannon, we do not even know what the mist like abomination is to begin with.

Though, as far as the return of the Twili is concerned, it might not happen. Midna destroyed the Mirror Of Twilight, and all the Twili realm was kicked out of Hyrule. Unless Midna is so powerful with the Fused Shadow to build another mirror and finds a reason to come back, then we might see the Twili in some form.

Do the wolf link thing is atleast canon? It look like more nintendo trying to sell amiibo than anything else...

 

[Matthew Srolis]

Great theory but as of now I believe this game is post spirit tracks because of the architecture, landscape, and overall feel to the game.

 

[Ominethious]

Great theory but as of now I believe this game is post spirit tracks because of the architecture, landscape, and overall feel to the game.

What don't get is where the great sea is drained, is that just a theory or was that legit canon from the Wind Waker / Spirit Tracks?

 

[Dio]

What don't get is where the great sea is drained, is that just a theory or was that legit canon from the Wind Waker / Spirit Tracks?

It's just a theory there is no evidence of it. What the Koroks did say in WW was something along the lines of wanting to join all the islands with the roots of trees and create a new land.