GAME THREAD: Dark Souls Mafia

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would KoD be so bold

kod can be unhinged as both alignments

 

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oh yeah I was gonna say this at EoD or SoD to give scum less time to think about whether or not I would say this as the Hider (I would, I come from ToS lmao), but I realize it may be better to do it now so people are prepping for it.

Remember that if you hypoclaim visiting somebody as Hider, they are "confirmed town" to you and you cannot ever question their towniness at any point going forward after you would have checked them. Any admission that they could be non-town is an admission to the Mafia of your status as non-Hider.

Pick targets with that in mind. The Hider, of course, should feel free to counter-abuse this if required.

this is extremely townie lol

 

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I'm always extremely townie

literally

 

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kod can be unhinged as both alignments

not really what I meant although I knew that would be unclear when I said it

basically

I don't think I've been much like last game this game because of how busy I've been

and yet KoD has thrown a townread on me for being similar to last game?

sure like I know I'm still town and now that I'm bringing this up he'll say it's a vibe/feeling thing (which is true if he's town and his only option as scum) but I still think that reasoning feels too easy and yet is the exact thing I was railing on you for last game when you were scum, so perhaps he thinks what I was doing is not townreading you for not townreading me based on meta (technically true but there's more context) and therefore if he townreads me here based on meta I'll townread him?

unsure

 

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That is Isett's post that you keep talking about. At no point in his post is he actually *SPECULATING* about the setup of the game. That's something you entirely came up with out of nowhere on your own. What Isett proposed is offering cover for the hider by posting a simply "I targeted X if I were the hider," or some such thing.

Nothing about Isett's suggestion or post is as you put forth. So really what are you doing here? Misrepping Isett? Because that's what it looks like based on the contrast of how you describe Isett's post and the actual content of Isett's post.

this is, like, incredibly nitpicky

just because he called it "setup speculation" when it isn't technically speculating what the setup could be doesn't mean that he's misrepping Isett when the point he's making is still clearly communicated

 

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especially because it's basically speculating on the ideal meta for the setup

like this entire point evaporates if he just said "meta spec" instead

and that's not exactly a word substitution where you can argue Seanzie saying one instead of the other is in bad faith in any way

 

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wait is voting for an extension still a thing

because with several people entirely MIA I'd love to do that

 

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I think the only thing I actively like from KoD's earlier posts is his handling of Seanzie asking how much experience he has

but that isn't enough to carry my overall read

 

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does somebody wanna link me to a KoD scumgame

I may try this "meta reading" thing I've heard about

 

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I agree that it is a bad post, but I don’t think it’s particularly wolfy.
@KingofDominaria were you attempting to disguise yourself as a new player up until you admitted it, or did you just spontaneously decide to say it when asked?
This reads like wolf salt to me, especially the last paragraph; there isn’t any particular reason to believe that the person in question is going to tunnel you after one vote.

kinda like how Eli goes from defending KoD in one post to attacking him the next

not anything incredibly townie but it does show thoughts that don't come from a mindset of "who can I attack"

 

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Oh boy first mafia game here in almost 6 months.

Tbh, I just skimmed a lot of the Seanzie/KoD back and forth.

Some of us have played with KoD so we know that he's not new. So lying there isn't scummy or anything. Can be an interesting way to see reactions I guess. Also, he and Numbers (Isett or whatever his sign up name was), are very good friends so KoD sticking up for him there doesn't phase me.

I don't think Numbers post was scummy btw. It's NAI at best. I do it as both town and scum because it's good discussion points and if you're scum you can put forth a good plan and get town cred for it.

Was a bit odd how DW jumped to reads so early without much material. I feel like I had more to say about this but forgot what it was. Will come back to it.
Them liking and then not liking Numbers based on Seanzie's post is meh. Dunno if scum would be willing to change their mindset that quick so early in the game. But also scum is also willing to latch onto things they think they can push.

Really should write down my thoughts as I'm reading because I'm forgetting a lot now. Gonna eat and come back to this.

seanzie I simultaneously think there's decent odds you find this scummy just because it disagrees with you, and yet because I agree with you I am also finding it mildly scummy because it disagrees with me

fun

 

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Nope.
IRDC what you think about me.

As long as it’s not the same reason for the vibes (which I don’t think it is) it’s all good!

@Kreaal what reason was that? I don't follow.

 

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Now the question remains if a CC will happen or not.
(Probably not because I’m just pulling a funny RN.)

oh yeah forgot about this

Kreaal's worst post

much like KoD's best, it's not enough to carry the read

 

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When come back.
Talk about how scared you were to look at my presence!
Remember last game? What a distance we had together.

oh English is probably not his first language

cool

 

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One of the issues with Number's proposal though is that it is unclear if they actually considered the benefits of the proposal to town.

I do have a few ideas on how to weaponize it for hunting.

Super, very, totally, unclear. And this is why both KoD was so adamant that you didn't read my post correctly and that I haven't decided on your read yet. This one line shows that I have given strategic thought to the matter. But how many times did you bother to ask for clarity before deciding the post was just Wolfy? I'll save everybody the look back time, it was zero. You laser focused on that I claimed the discussion was of more value. I later clarified that I believed so because it holds direct tangible immediate value over a chance of mechanical clearing, which you dropped that topic immediately afterward. This speaks to you searching out a reaction to hang a lynch on only, rather than simply garnering reactions to build your reads.

like

how many times have any of you explicitly chosen one thing to base your reads off of early on

Last game I played I did just that based on asking people to tell me their favorite flavor of ice cream and then dropped a rainbow list for it by reaction reading both responses and non responses rather than actually ranking ice cream flavors. I proceeded to drop Ex (who was scum) on the bottom of the list. So you see, I don't actually have a point here other than what I say isn't always what I'm doing, but I say the things I say for decidedly pointed reasons.

Unrelated, I actually agree your vibe here feels like what I remember from Pinky Promise, and I have the benefit of saying that as an impartial observer/greater insight to what you were doing in real time since I was running the game.