This post is probably going to be a bit disjointed. I had quoted a lot of stuff, then felt some of it was unnecessary, and also changed my thoughts on some things as I was replying. Mainly I'm just really confused because I'll pretty strongly agree with something some is saying, then strongly disagree with other things that are saying. Which is making it really hard to get a read on some people.
I agree at a glance kuro looks just like before.
I don't think this really means much. We only have the previous game to go off and nothing else to tell us if he plays the same way as scum and town or if there are any notable differences. I get using meta, but using meta when you only have one game to go off of that is completely different than this one (seeing as the other was huge) just doesn't do a ton.
Because I was thinking I'd start a wagon on someone who isn't normally very active and you were the only one who fit. It's not like I find you suspicious the main object was start a wagon.
Why specifically did the wagon need to be on someone who isn't normally very active?
So far kuro seems much the same as last game so I'm only suspicious if his votes continue being strange.
He may have just been bandwagoning for sake of it without caring why but I need to reread that.
I mean, he pretty blatantly said he was bandwagoning just for the sake of it. He didn't say anything about agreeing with the inactivity reasoning, and even listed two other people who he felt he could tell would be more inactive in the game.
Actually Pendio is pinging me a little, idk if he was planning to be more active or if it was because of my vote but the increase in activity is not what I was expecting, especially since the day is barely half over.
And if he flips town I'll know if it's AI. But for the sake of this game I'm going to use anything and everything that strikes me as strange to help me read people.
Well, this is a smaller game, so that could be why Pendio is being more active. Plus he's been active in past games as well. It's not really a tell for him. Not to mention, you should realize that in the last game he wasn't active and was scum, but in the game before that he wasn't very active and was town. So it doesn't say anything about his alignment.
And honestly, nah. I'd rather no vig shot n1 because it's likely there are multiple vigs, and that can mean 4 or more deaths if they all fire. Like I said, my specific point was not to plan to read into the number of kills like you suggested because scum can holster.
Like Bok said, this is the opposite of what you were saying earlier. You said that the vig shouldn't holster cause mafia could just holster anyways to mess with the kill count. Not to mention, that doesn't really make sense anyways. We don't know if we have a serial killer or vig(s), so we don't know how many kills to expect anyways. Mafia wouldn't risk holstering when doing so could mean no night kills at all. Seems a little weird to say vig shouldn't holster, then to saying vig should holster because there could be multiple vigs and we don't want that many deaths. Perhaps you're scared of a vig of a possible vig shot?
I feel like Pendio is planting seeds with funnier here. He says he's suspicious of him but won't vote him just yet and instead votes someone completely different. I feel like if funnier started to get heat Pendio could claim that he was suspicious earlier and easily jump on a funnier wagon to look good. I think if funnier flipped scum I'd be going after Pendio next and vise versa.
Hm, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this post. At first it looked pretty solid to me, and I found myself agreeing with it. But it's also kinda seems like reading into things a bit for day one. It's hard to say for sure, especially since Bok hasn't been scum, so doing pre-planning like this as scum would be a risky move.
Anyways I don't really see the point in quoting one of my posts, asking a question about it, and then quoting the post I made with the answer in it.
I explained why I voted twice in the same post, it really didn't matter why I voted who I voted cause the answer is always to start a wagon and I don't really care who it is. (Sorta care now though)
I've completely thrown out all my previous notions about Pendio so hopefully I will be able to read him correctly.
I can see how you might be scum reading me, but voting me without waiting for me to address your questions is weird, are you really that positive?
Btw could you tell me what the difference is between town Mez and scum Mez to you?
First of all, in regards to you not seeing the point in quoting something, asking about it, and then quoting where you answered it, that just happens sometimes. People go through and quote as they see something they wanna comment on, which might be answered later. And then they either just don't feel like deleting it, or wanna add what their thoughts were as they read through. Plus, how is that any different than you voting one person and then in the same post unvoting and voting someone else?
Do you sorta care now about who you started a wagon on because you're catching heat for doing so? Or is it some other reason? Because I find it kinda odd you would care now after people have become suspicious of you for doing it. That's just what's gonna happen if you try to start a bandwagon on someone with no/weak reasoning.
Meh, voting someone before they can address something isn't weird. You can always remove it later and there was still plenty of time to do so. What is weird is the fact that you don't seem to like that, when you were trying to start a wagon on Pendio because he's been inactive in recent games, even though he had been active this time, and you could have allowed him to address your thoughts about him before voting as well.
Lilac want a no lynch and generally I don't agree with that anymore but her line of thinking seems to be similar to mine when i first started playing. I just didn't say it back then since mez was so goddamn tenacious about it lol. So slight town read for lilac.
I like this post. I had the same exact thoughts regarding Lilac's vote for a no lynch. When you first start playing, you want to rely more on power roles to try and gather information, and you don't really want to risk lynching them day 1 as a possible random lynch.
If I had to say who I would suspect bok but only if kuro turned up mafia. However bok is a smart player so I dont think he would make it that obvious this early in the game that he is mafia. Kuro is acting just like he did in delta and he was town and seems to have decent experiance in mafia.
Because it was a 2nd band wagon and you could have deffend kuro from a lynch. However like I said I would doubt that also because your not a new mafia player. I havent seen any thing inherintly scummy and that is the closest thing to a conection between two playes that I ahve sceen in thread.
It's funny because I said it was a bit too early for you to be saying it looked like Pendio was planting seeds, but to be completely honest, I'm starting to get that same vibe from you now regarding Kuro.
Hm, two pretty similar reasons for connecting Bok and Kuro. I wonder if there was a plan proposed in scum chat to try and work this angle, and both of them went with it, instead of just one?
I don't think Bok would be trying to defend Kuro from a lynch with his vote, especially that early, and when Kuro wasn't in serious danger. And then Mez thinks Bok is possibly planting seeds for later about Kuro, when he was just super suspicious of Bok saying that he felt Pendio was planting seeds about funnier. Either it's suspicious this early or it's not.
I'm not necessarily sure if there is anything here, but there could be a connection with Mezlo and music and it's worth keeping an eye on.
Music- Doing things as expected, agreeing with him always helps.
What? I don't get what you mean by agreeing with him always helps. Mind explaining that? Plus, music hasn't even posted a ton, so how can he be doing things as expected?
) just cause Le Bok Choy didn't defend him, why does that really matter/stick out to you?
