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  1. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    I also independently wanted Minish dead N1 for different reasons.
  2. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/JTSnAq6H6cjnC
  3. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    YIGA, you have absolutely zero idea what's happening in this game.
  4. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Oh wait, I'm forgetting about Pancake. Idk if I'd put him above or below Lumine.
  5. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Idk how I feel about agreeing with you 100%, that's probably not a good sign.
  6. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    If you select funnier instead of Rubik, those are probably my top 4 atm as well, in exactly that same order, probably. Everyone else has felt pretty towny to me, so far.
  7. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    If there existed any doubt in my mind that you're scum, it's certainly gone now. This is exactly the kind of play cornered scum will do. Inexperienced town would have no reason to want to lie about being scum, though maybe they'd lie about having a power role to survive or self-hammer or something.
  8. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Suspicion is good. What you're doing isn't. You haven't addressed literally anything I said to you in response to you voting for me, namely that I voted for you the past two games I was scum when you acted scummy so I clearly have no reservations doing so. The very premise your attack is based...
  9. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    So he's 75% of the people who post in the "Mature Discussion" section of the forum?
  10. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    If funnier is a viable wagon, I'd be just about as happy to vote for him as for Storma. Turning yesterday's lynch into a coin toss stinks to high heavens, in my opinion, and funnier's play has felt a bit opportunistic to me today. The only reason I'd hesitate to kill him is that he's actually...
  11. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Your strategy is bad.
  12. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    I excluded Lumine because I was asking specifically based on past experiences because I'm curious whether any of those three tend to lurk more as scum. Lumine is a player that no one has any experience playing with, as far as I can tell. Lumine and their eventual replacement are definitely...
  13. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Storma Pendio Storm Give your thoughts on what these 3 players have said this game based on your past experiences playing with them.
  14. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    If he does genuinely think I'm scum, though, the sooner he can confirm it, the better it is for town. That said I'd rather get to play this game than get lynched because I "didn't find YIGA scummy for once" (despite finding him scummy every time I was mafia) or because I "posted actively" (I...
  15. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    You never gave your reason for voting for him in the first place other than agreeing with kirino. Now you're waffling on that? Do you believe in anything at all? Unvote Vote: Storma
  16. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    It's hard to imagine scum making a play as crazy as what YIG is doing, yeah. It's weird that the best towntell I have for people here is them making bizarre anti-town plays.
  17. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    And naturally, you should play power roles actively sometimes for wifom purposes.
  18. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Town power roles often want to stay out of the spotlight. They don't want to be the obvious choice of the NK. You can contribute and still not stand out. Power roles shouldn't be driving the game early so they can survive long enough to drive it late. That said, when I say power roles I'm...
  19. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    When I was a wolf, I kept you alive because you were the only one who wasn't part of the hivemind. Having a different perspective can make you valuable to the scum team. I assume storm will probably be kept alive because his read list is backwards.
  20. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    It works in a level 1 meta. It also works when you have a mixture of lurkers and active players.
  21. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    A weak meta discourages players from posting. Lurking is a good play for mafia, town power roles, and serial killers. It makes it harder to tell apart from other lurking players, so it basically turns into a guess. Vanilla town usually wants to draw the nightkill so they'll post actively and...
  22. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    From my experience, lurking is more of a scumtell than activity. Activity is how you win the game as town.
  23. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Maybe I'm the crazy one. I should get some rest.
  24. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Do you live in a world where everything is the opposite of reality? Your scum list is literally my top 3 town reads.
  25. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Actually, before you made your weird attack on me, this was your least scummy game I've been in, in my opinion. The fact that you were "acting scummy" and I was scum and knew how you would flip didn't stop me from voting for you in either of the past two games we played together, why would this...
  26. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    This feels a bit opportunistic to me, but maybe I'm reading too much into it. Could you describe (in your own words) why you're voting for YIGA?
  27. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Godspeed
  28. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Those are my surface level thoughts on the players without re-reading the game.
  29. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Proactive: Kirino - Everything Kirino's said this game has felt reasonable to me. That could be a bad sign potentially, but I'd rather trust that atm than doubt it. Moe the Moblin - Moe seems to be playing pretty normally. Proactive, but slightly fishy: funnier6 - Created a bad situation for...
  30. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    I honestly have no idea. @YIGAhim do you have a reason?
  31. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Gumball already flipped town. Are you sure you're tuned in to this game?
  32. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    irl means "in real life"
  33. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Unvote Vote: Pancake @PancakeSamurai write me a minimum 50 word essay on who we should lynch today or i'll kill you irl
  34. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Yeah, that's probably the ideal hider play, although it fails if there's the bus driver scum role or if scum/SK NK them when they announce that they target a town player or the joat roleblock or any other number of easy exploits. It seems mostly useless to me.
  35. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Hunting mafia is more about noticing connections between players and higher knowledge about the setup/player alignment than should be expected. Hunting an SK is more about finding a player who is primarily trying to preserve themselves. They're both players acting in an anti-town way, but...
  36. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    SK sometimes brings up SKs because they want to feel special about themselves, but it's generally more likely for mafia to do it to try to distract from scumhunting. Again, I'm not sold on this as much as usual in this setup where we know that SK is pretty likely. It could be the hider role or...
  37. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Bringing up SKs is typically something scum does to distract from hunting for the scumteam. IDK how true this sentiment is, but it's something I've heard quite a lot and I've certainly been tempted to do it myself as scum in the past. The main difference in this scenario is that we know that...
  38. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    It's also theoretically possible Gumball hid behind scum or Minish last night and got killed as a result, based on how this role is worded. I've never seen a Hider in a game before, but it seems like a pretty terrible role (it takes you from a 1/x chance of dying to a 4/x or 5/x chance of dying...
  39. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    I'm not personally bothered by it, I just don't want this to spiral into an endless chain of frustration. If it devolves into a state where every post you make is you being exasperated by me "not getting it", we won't be able to communicate with each other as effectively as if we just treated...
  40. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    I would have probably broken the initial tie by voting for Deku, had he not self-preserved. I would have broken the tie during the 10 minute window you left by voting for YIG to nullify your coinflip and prevent you from backing out of your wagon without learning the result you were potentially...
  41. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    I don't think lynching lurkers is a bad idea, I think exclusively voting for them early in the day is. I support pressuring lurkers into posting and killing them if they fail to do so because lurking is a convenient way for scum to fly under the radar. Please don't put words into my mouth. Me...
  42. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    I would have gladly broken the tie if I'd been online at the time. You left a literal 10 minute window for someone else to break the coin flip. Unvoting into a position that can change the results of the lynch is something that you can and should be held accountable for. In my eyes, your...
  43. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    It's generally more productive to try to scumhunt among active players in the long run, especially this early in the day, but I'll probably be willing to join just about any lurker wagon if they don't pick up their posting.
  44. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Vote: funnier6 Stop leaving lynch results up to a coin flip. It makes the compositions of both wagons significantly less meaningful.
  45. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    I think you had your gender as "Pancake" for a bit there, so I could see how that might be confusing.
  46. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Talking to the scumteam like you're not part of it is a scumtell. I'll probably get some soft reads in tonight when I'm not on my phone.
  47. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    that smiling link emoticon is a scumtell, fwiw that thing gives me nightmares
  48. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Not trying to find scum is anti-town. Trying to keep up pressure on people in hopes that they slip up is important, even if you don't feel like you can trust your reads.
  49. Rubik

    Game Thread Bee Movie: Trial by Honey

    Fwiw, I don't really consider myself part of ZD's meta given that this is only like my third game here. I act towny regardless of my alignment. :^)
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