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In lieu of voting success, the only other pro-town path forward would either seem to be empowering sympathetic figures (e.g., possible superheroes or other town-adjacent roles) or hoping that the existing superheroes manage to take care of things.

Courtesy of certain arrangements, I am (now) mechanically a non-threat to town. This can be demonstrated via interview or investigation or whatever powers the Bugle has at its disposal. Note that this does not imply that KoD himself is actually town-inclined. In terms of the path forward, it...

I'd be curious to know what that number is, though I honestly don't think you should want to make it public. Also, while you are correct in that mafia kills harm the superhero win, the same essential logic applies as before: Spider-Man is gunning for KoD, which motivates KoD (and mafia) not to...

You are probably right, but town is also currently gunning for KoD (and has been since the start of day). Applying the same logic, if town (and certain superheroes) are going to go after mafia, then mafia is forced to start killing town -- even if that assures mutual destruction. I don't really...

I honestly have trouble believing that you're important enough to warrant all this. Multiple days of silence/roleblock, constant conspiratorial framing, and all for some random townie? Please. You're mafia, and probably a don. EDIT: Lack of actual vote aside, I am obviously on board with...

It would certainly be an expedient fail-safe -- at least as long as Storm cooperates. Note, though, that there are certainly candidates for characters who plausibly started the game as threats to town. KoD/Fisk is one possible example. One or two such roles plus a very slim relative town...

I think this jives with my information. The fourth faction may not, in fact, be a "gang" in the technical sense -- and, as such, it may not have a don. I agree that Exlight is suspect (and, yes, likely mafia), but I'm not convinced, for reasons aforementioned (and others), that lynching him...

It's actually verifiable (mostly) if I vote and Zinger doesn't count my vote. To that end, I expressly voted for Storm the other day: ...and this vote never showed up in the vote count. If I'm not sneaky, the bad guys might find me (among other adverse effects).

Are you counting mafia factions based on the number of dons who attended this "meeting"? I.e., did you "see", in some abstract sense, the attendees? Or do you actually have specific verification of the number of different factions?

Perhaps you are merely risk-adverse, but this approach is inherently problematic. If you are actually town, then you really shouldn't care too much about individual repercussions - you win if your alignment your wins, so your only goal should be eliminating threats. If, however, you are not...

Would it not be best to fact-check a known mafia player before an alleged coalition is formed, then fact-check the same player again afterwards? In theory, they'd yield different results each time. (I don't know exactly how your process works, though.)

I agree, at the very least, that you have been remarkably inoffensive for a supervillain (and that, consequently, I would be willing to lynch/jail essentially any other supervillain before you). Insofar as you can work with town, though, this necessarily entails that you become a non-threat --...

My implicit addendum to the above is that, if a town-mafia coalition of the sort alluded to by Abigail is possible, then that is likely the best path to a town victory. It is unclear to me, however, whether this is plausible (as opposed to mechanically possible), as there's a lot of room for...

From what I have managed to glean thus far, it is very likely the case that the mafia factions, combined, are equivalent in size or even slightly larger (in terms of player numbers) than town. The basic math here is that minimally-sized mafia factions are probably going to consist, on average...

Town and mafia are arguably, depending on which rumors we believe, the least two threatening alignments to a mass victory, and Fisk has definite villain vibes, so it's not like you can really blame them. Storm killed a mafia in self-defense with an ability that is only thematically compatible...

"They" treated you as a threat because your role is Wilson Fisk and Wilson Fisk is canonically a threat in-spiderverse. If you start reading people on the basis that they are (illogically) attempting to persecute you rather than pursuing their win conditions, all of your reads are going to be...

Give us some names, then, and offer us a specific proposal as to how those names are trying to steer the game and why we ought to care that they're doing so. It's your head on the block, and as much as you're trying to talk around it, your proposal here is akin to "Sure, I'm mafia, but shouldn't...

That's good to know - thanks! If you were willing to outline the possible routes your alignment might take (and the surest means for getting there), that might do a bit to allay certain concerns that some of us seem to share.

I agree that Storm is likely origin-aligned, but I think it's still a fair question as to how baked in the origins actually are. I know that you've otherwise mentioned your skepticism that all (or even many) of the origin-aligned characters will have a town and a villain path, but we already...

I add to this observation that you probably could have extorted some amount of money from the group without the vandalism (if you hit a town building), as we are (via Rag) certain enough of your identity to desire that you not actually become Electro. Pseudo-Edit: Chaos is one thing, lying is...

Storm, the more you lie, the more incompatible your existence becomes to the well-being of town. At this point, we can't believe anything you say, so even if you aren't mafia (or,say, a supervillain), you've already set the precedent that we must treat all of your posts with extreme skepticism...

As far as the Storm situation goes, I agree that he is unlikely to be town. He is also making a nuisance of himself. This thus strikes me as a good lynch/arrest. I agree, though, that we might also want to explore a mass arrest on a hard-to-kill player. KoD seems like a good candidate, and the...

The only two NGAers (other than, as Rag says, Lunch) who strike me as possible culprits here are Tevish and Hello World. On current assumptions, Hello World is Stan Lee, so that just leaves Tevish as our Kingpin (considering only the NGA crowd, and excluding the possibility that this was bait)...

Revised question: Why does science hate owls? Poor Vroendal. :( I read Rag's post only as a warning that the person behind the account might not be Fisk, not as an admonition against analyzing the Kingpin account's posts, but if you did take it that way, I can understand the response.

I'm curious how going to the science event proves you're not mafia. (Perhaps I missed something.) Edit: Disregard, I am a dumb. I have now found Zinger's post.

In answer to Killjoy's earlier question, as long as I whisper I'm harder for the bad guys to find. I also have a few thoughts. While I do not dispute that Rag has contributed critical thinking and commendable zeal in attempting to solve the game so far, this is not quite the indication of...

The abiding problem with "lynch all lurkers" is, as Rubik alludes to, the fact that players with power roles tend to be fairly passive themselves. You also tend to hit players being faced with real-life busyness (e.g., currently me), which is harmful insofar as such players may ultimately return...

As long as we are experimenting, we it might also be fruitful to test whether we can vote for Unknown players. (I currently cannot vote, so I tragically cannot engage in such science myself.) Surely you have some insights, even if they don't constitute a list.

The true enemy was the money we made along the way.

Vro's introduction seems innocuous to me. A humurous/trollish first post is par for the course for a lot of players. The nonsense segues naturally into scum-hunting.

Wark. (Confirmed.)

Yes. That last word is important. Leaving aside the obvious fact that SMS has been topical since Day 1 (and, thus, that the issues you mention have long since been discussed), I have so far been specifically addressing your erroneous claims with regard to mechanical threat. I suppose you're...

No, I'm asserting that SMS possessing a pro-town win condition by definition precludes him from constituting a (necessary) mechanical threat. In other words: The guy who can win with town is less mechanically threatening than the guy who is mechanically required to kill town's best ally.

...I clicked nothing! Actual real post below: ...You may be surprised to learn that it's not D2. Now, I don't know if you're intentionally being misleading or if you've web-slung yourself into one too many buildings, but we have very clearly established that SMS has a mechanical choice between...

...You may be surprised to learn that it's not D2. Now, I don't know if you're intentionally being misleading or if you've web-slung yourself into one too many buildings, but we have very clearly established that Considering you're admitted self. I wonder if you aren't hedging your bets that...

@Zinger: If I spam role PMs through the Spider-Man account, will you promise to modkill it for us?

Revision: 3) After 200 days, all of us have breakdowns and Zinger stands alone. 4) Zinger wins. (?)

He undermined my plan! With facts, of all things.

Sir, you've disappointed me. At some point it becomes a procedural "enter thread, vote C_L, depart" kind of thing. I'm sure we can run a real game simultaneously.

New plan: 1) Town and scum agree to a non-aggression pact. 2) We lynch Captan_Lunch every day, every time. 3) After 100 or so such days, Zinger has a breakdown and/or otherwise abandons the thread. 4) We seize the means of moderation and declare everyone a winner.

Addendum: I do agree that Gaunt is a threat. But Gaunt himself is very plausibly pro-Goblin.

They have admitted no such thing. Funnier has alleged a) that he required Spider-Man to submit a guilty plea in order to win, and b) that he can no longer win the game. Neither now constitutes a de facto mechanical threat. SMS admits that he could be a threat to town, but we have it on reliable...

We know the Goblin wincon, yes, but we also know that Freddeh isn't Goblin-aligned. So you really have no basis for making that claim. For that matter, we know all but definitely that SMS does have a town-compatible win con, so by your own logic he is in essence a known non-threat unless he...

I suppose she could be a game mechanic. But that's still (presumably) verifiable at some point or another. On that note, one of the Bugles (?) mentioned red lipstick. But I am presently too lazy to confirm what is known about that item. Isn't Sun a clone? Which makes his true role something...

Unvote It's pretty easy to counterclaim him if he's lying.

Not revealing PGO status is, indeed, scummy. Worst case you do it once town has legitimate cases on other people. I no longer recall whether I mentioned it at the time, but Tristan was kind of stretching to defend PK back when we ended up lynching PK. He would keeping popping up to argue with...

Obviously not.

Did you still get the other ability?

The answer to the Freddeh alignment conundrum (because I didn't see anyone address it directly) is that Freddeh himself doesn't have to be Goblin-aligned. Of course he's aligned with himself. We also presumably ought to care about the other alleged master that PK has. What did you try to do?

Unfun fact: Rubik targeted Dusky last night.