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Well, at this point, after doing some research, doing some thinking, watching a video on youtube, taking some more time to think, I've come to the conclusion that Zelda U isn't going to have a timeline placement at all. Or, it hasn't even really been set in stone yet by Nintendo themselves. Which is exactly the reason why this game can't release this year, why it was a bad idea for Nintendo to show off the game way too soon, why they should've waited until 2018 to show off the game and release it in 2019 for the NX.
I say this cause right now, Nintendo giving us mixed messages with this game, likely because they're still in a very much heated debate as to when in the timeline this game should set place, what the game is even about, what the story is, who the villain, etc. I will continue to get more in-depth detail a little later.
And you're wondering, "how is this mean Zelda U is getting cancelled?". Well...I will tell you why.
1) There's likely chances that haven't even made the dungeons for the game, which is why we have seen any of the dungeons at all. Only the same field and Link riding around, every...single...time, always with not enough footage and details to really get to know much about the game.
2) Lack of information is likely due to the obvious given impression of the possibility that maybe even Nintendo doesn't know what the heck this game is and what it's even about either. So they're pretty much on the same page as we are more than we think.
And you're asking, "Well then, why did Nintendo seem so confident about a 2015 release? And more recent, a 2016 release? Plus, why would they act as if the game is doing well if it's not?". Well, because as a typical professional company, worrying about they're reputation, they felt that they just couldn't let fans down, so they cause they're afraid that the truth would cause an uproar.
Want more proof? Well, starters, it really does feel like Nintendo is just going to keep delaying this game until they feel comfortable with eventually admitting the truth that they're just not getting anywhere with this game and that it was discontinued.
Want even more elaborate proof? Well, here's a recent quote from Aonuma:
Here, Aonuma is admitting that he cares about the fans and how they react things (most especially and specifically, definitely big impacting news). And he also refers to all the footage we've seen so far as just "early previews", which, quite easily implies to now fact that the game really is still just in it's Pre-Alpha build stages of development. Which is why only one area is playable in the game, and the new equipment stuff that Link had in the Nov. direct was just accessed through Nintendo playing the game on debug mode, hence why there was no interface.
So with that said, it's pretty much confirmed at this point that the game is in now pretty much fact, still a long ways from the development on it being finished.
And for evidence that suggests that the developers really in a heated debate about ideas for Zelda U, here is another quote:
Aonuma clearly loves his fans and his co-workers, so he finds such heated debates like the one he's always constantly had to put up with every day in regards to Zelda U to be like a scary nightmare for him as clearly doesn't like conflict.
Anyways, onto my next point (which is probably one of the most common that comes to my mind all the time)
3) Zelda Wii U is a time paradox abomination of a game with no real explanation that is just constantly misleading fans to have all these crazy ideas, when truth is that, there is no story, plot, or timeline placement even 100% decided and set in stone yet. Which is exactly why it's neither a continuation of the same lore we know and love or a reboot. It's a stand alone one-shot game with beautiful graphics and fun gameplay but doomed to meet a terrible fate due forced in ideas that are conflicting and contradicting with each other and Nintendo just being so new to the whole modern "Skyrim type of open-world game" thing.
Nintendo is just not ready yet for the kind of game they're trying to make. So the chances of this game being replaced with a new game (like what happened with Metroid Dread where we got Other M instead) are very high.
And now for my final point.
4) The game was shown off way too early. And this something that I actually quite aware of for a long time now. And I even tried to everyone about it, but no one would ever listen to me. I knew Zelda U was going to be delayed and turn out to be a game surrounding by conspiracy since E3 2014 and as of from last year, all the way up until now, I have only been proven to be more and more right, yet, still, no one seemed to ever really care or listen, even after the first delay, last year.
People still think the game is coming when at this point, it's becoming to be more and more clear to me that it's not. And it really makes me sad as I see these people just continue to give their hopes up for this game.
And with all that said, this is game is without a doubt, going to get cancelled. I'm sorry, but that's the truth. I know and understand just how tough it may be to accept that but you just have to learn to take out the huge grains of salt accept it, cause at this point, it's only going to continue to turn out more and more to be true.
And don't buy into any those financial reports. Unless we actually hear something directly from Nintendo themselves (like some actual solid info and/or an actual more precise release date), my points here will remain standing tall.
Trust me, I want this game just as bad for me to not want to believe that any what I just said to be true either, but you just have to please understand that I wouldn't be bringing this up if there was no truth to this and if I wasn't serious about this.
Hope you all understand that I had to make this thread cause I feel that this a big deal to me.
Note: Oh, and by the way, as for source as to where I got the Aonuma quotes from, well, you can find them here:
http://nintendoeverything.com/aonum...-not-trying-to-force-messages-into-the-games/
I say this cause right now, Nintendo giving us mixed messages with this game, likely because they're still in a very much heated debate as to when in the timeline this game should set place, what the game is even about, what the story is, who the villain, etc. I will continue to get more in-depth detail a little later.
And you're wondering, "how is this mean Zelda U is getting cancelled?". Well...I will tell you why.
1) There's likely chances that haven't even made the dungeons for the game, which is why we have seen any of the dungeons at all. Only the same field and Link riding around, every...single...time, always with not enough footage and details to really get to know much about the game.
2) Lack of information is likely due to the obvious given impression of the possibility that maybe even Nintendo doesn't know what the heck this game is and what it's even about either. So they're pretty much on the same page as we are more than we think.
And you're asking, "Well then, why did Nintendo seem so confident about a 2015 release? And more recent, a 2016 release? Plus, why would they act as if the game is doing well if it's not?". Well, because as a typical professional company, worrying about they're reputation, they felt that they just couldn't let fans down, so they cause they're afraid that the truth would cause an uproar.
Want more proof? Well, starters, it really does feel like Nintendo is just going to keep delaying this game until they feel comfortable with eventually admitting the truth that they're just not getting anywhere with this game and that it was discontinued.
Want even more elaborate proof? Well, here's a recent quote from Aonuma:
Eiji Aonuma said:We’re constantly thinking about how to make it unique compared to other games, both in general as well as to others in the Zelda series. Of course, the response of fans is most important and something we care very much about, which is why recently we have been showing early previews at events like E3. We’re looking to see that there are no problems with the directions we’re taking, and are reflecting the reactions we do get into subsequent development.
Here, Aonuma is admitting that he cares about the fans and how they react things (most especially and specifically, definitely big impacting news). And he also refers to all the footage we've seen so far as just "early previews", which, quite easily implies to now fact that the game really is still just in it's Pre-Alpha build stages of development. Which is why only one area is playable in the game, and the new equipment stuff that Link had in the Nov. direct was just accessed through Nintendo playing the game on debug mode, hence why there was no interface.
So with that said, it's pretty much confirmed at this point that the game is in now pretty much fact, still a long ways from the development on it being finished.
And for evidence that suggests that the developers really in a heated debate about ideas for Zelda U, here is another quote:
Eiji Aonuma said:I haven’t and won’t be trying to put any message or meaning into the games. (If someone else were to make a Zelda game though, of course it might be different.) Occasionally I receive messages from fans telling me how playing Zelda games has changed their lives. While of course this makes me incredibly happy to hear, I feel a great sense of responsibility as well, so part of me feels that developers putting their own ideologies in games is kind of scary.
Aonuma clearly loves his fans and his co-workers, so he finds such heated debates like the one he's always constantly had to put up with every day in regards to Zelda U to be like a scary nightmare for him as clearly doesn't like conflict.
Anyways, onto my next point (which is probably one of the most common that comes to my mind all the time)
3) Zelda Wii U is a time paradox abomination of a game with no real explanation that is just constantly misleading fans to have all these crazy ideas, when truth is that, there is no story, plot, or timeline placement even 100% decided and set in stone yet. Which is exactly why it's neither a continuation of the same lore we know and love or a reboot. It's a stand alone one-shot game with beautiful graphics and fun gameplay but doomed to meet a terrible fate due forced in ideas that are conflicting and contradicting with each other and Nintendo just being so new to the whole modern "Skyrim type of open-world game" thing.
Nintendo is just not ready yet for the kind of game they're trying to make. So the chances of this game being replaced with a new game (like what happened with Metroid Dread where we got Other M instead) are very high.
And now for my final point.
4) The game was shown off way too early. And this something that I actually quite aware of for a long time now. And I even tried to everyone about it, but no one would ever listen to me. I knew Zelda U was going to be delayed and turn out to be a game surrounding by conspiracy since E3 2014 and as of from last year, all the way up until now, I have only been proven to be more and more right, yet, still, no one seemed to ever really care or listen, even after the first delay, last year.
People still think the game is coming when at this point, it's becoming to be more and more clear to me that it's not. And it really makes me sad as I see these people just continue to give their hopes up for this game.
And with all that said, this is game is without a doubt, going to get cancelled. I'm sorry, but that's the truth. I know and understand just how tough it may be to accept that but you just have to learn to take out the huge grains of salt accept it, cause at this point, it's only going to continue to turn out more and more to be true.
And don't buy into any those financial reports. Unless we actually hear something directly from Nintendo themselves (like some actual solid info and/or an actual more precise release date), my points here will remain standing tall.
Trust me, I want this game just as bad for me to not want to believe that any what I just said to be true either, but you just have to please understand that I wouldn't be bringing this up if there was no truth to this and if I wasn't serious about this.
Hope you all understand that I had to make this thread cause I feel that this a big deal to me.
Note: Oh, and by the way, as for source as to where I got the Aonuma quotes from, well, you can find them here:
http://nintendoeverything.com/aonum...-not-trying-to-force-messages-into-the-games/