Game Thread Bok's Fantasy Book Mafia

[ExLight]

Legacy I really want to trust you but paranoia is poking the fact you keep pushing this 5 list when you+tristan is a viable scum team because that would mean a 20% chance of hitting mafia if you're scum here and you'd be pushing us in a really fake sense of security

 

[ExLight]

I'm also don't get why you're excluding Rubik when I presented arguments as to why there must be one scum between him and Tristan and even provided (at least to my knowledge) a viable explanation for what might've happened in the night which points to him too, which you said yourself "put Rubik back into the PoE"

It feels like you're using that to push the idea that you're "townclearing people" which you really aren't. You're 3pclearing a 3p. And clearing someone you don't know the alignment.

 

[Kirino]

If you're town and I'm town and the people I am touching for are town... whowpukd you say are the wolves?

The remaining players are Rubik, Tristan, Ex, Johnny, Minish, Kirino, Legend, Mikey. IIRC, you're vouching for Tristan, Rubik, and Johnny. Plus you and myself, that'd leave three: Ex, Minish, and Mikey. Unless I'm missing something, since I admittedly skimmed some of your posts, just because there's so many of them. I figure that's a possible team from my PoE as well, assuming you're town, even if I'm increasingly doubting that.

 

[Legacy of Smiles]

Legacy I really want to trust you but paranoia is poking the fact you keep pushing this 5 list when you+tristan is a viable scum team because that would mean a 20% chance of hitting mafia if you're scum here and you'd be pushing us in a really fake sense of security

Well the good news for you is that if I'm w/w with Rubik then there are only two possible scum partners that fit that narrative and that is you and Minish. Obviously you would know you were town in that situation so a me/Rubik/Minish team is the only way.

 

[Legacy of Smiles]

The remaining players are Rubik, Tristan, Ex, Johnny, Minish, Kirino, Legend, Mikey. IIRC, you're vouching for Tristan, Rubik, and Johnny. Plus you and myself, that'd leave three: Ex, Minish, and Mikey. Unless I'm missing something, since I admittedly skimmed some of your posts, just because there's so many of them. I figure that's a possible team from my PoE as well, assuming you're town, even if I'm increasingly doubting that.

I'm not vouching for Johnny.

 

[Legacy of Smiles]

I'm also don't get why you're excluding Rubik when I presented arguments as to why there must be one scum between him and Tristan and even provided (at least to my knowledge) a viable explanation for what might've happened in the night which points to him too, which you said yourself "put Rubik back into the PoE"

It feels like you're using that to push the idea that you're "townclearing people" which you really aren't. You're 3pclearing a 3p. And clearing someone you don't know the alignment.

Mechanical reasons make Rubik town in ~85% of worlds. Rubik is a low priority chop and should only really be considered in F3 depending on the team.

 

[ExLight]

Well the good news for you is that if I'm w/w with Rubik then there are only two possible scum partners that fit that narrative and that is you and Minish. Obviously you would know you were town in that situation so a me/Rubik/Minish team is the only way.

That's not my worry, you can't be scum with rubik
they're two separate worries

either you're scum with tristan presenting us a faulty PoE or you're town and is excluding the only person I'm like dead sure is mafia

 

[ExLight]

there are only two possible scum partners that fit that narrative and that is you and Minish

You lost me here, what's the logic behind this PoE? lol
Rubik is pushing for my Lynch/Minish's, if he turned out to be scum like I believe I'd actually think she looks better?

 

[Legacy of Smiles]

Well the good news for you is that if I'm w/w with Rubik then there are only two possible scum partners that fit that narrative and that is you and Minish. Obviously you would know you were town in that situation so a me/Rubik/Minish team is the only way.

Mikey - Obviously not w/w with me.
Johnny - Borderline mech cleared because me/Rubik only happen in scum-messenger worlds. In scum messenger worlds, the messenger never exclusively sends messages to mafia.
Kirino - Bussing Kirino after saving Rubik wpuld be incredibly stupid.
Mellow - Would have to assume I just openly outed my teammates for zero reason. I am gamethrowing in this world.
ExLight - You.

Would have to be Minish as the third.

 

[Mikey the Gengar]

In scum messenger worlds, the messenger never exclusively sends messages to mafia.

and this is true because?

 

[Legacy of Smiles]

That's not my worry, you can't be scum with rubik
they're two separate worries

either you're scum with tristan presenting us a faulty PoE or you're town and is excluding the only person I'm like dead sure is mafia

Ohh did I get the wrong person? Oops.

Mellow is cleared as 3p and never scum unless I'm scum. If me and Mellow are actually w/w then all I need to do is copy the argument of I think Johnny "if we wanted to chop Mellow then our time to do that was yesterday". Speaking of which, Johnny would be the third scum for messenger reasons (and the messenger would be scum for sending two fake messages). I had no reason to inexplicably tie myself to Mellow like this if we were actually teamed when I could have easily diverted to chop to Rubik or Kirino without this fuss.

 

[Legacy of Smiles]

and this is true because?

Because most players don't outright waste their roles.

 

[ExLight]

Mikey - Obviously not w/w with me.
Johnny - Borderline mech cleared because me/Rubik only happen in scum-messenger worlds. In scum messenger worlds, the messenger never exclusively sends messages to mafia.
Kirino - Bussing Kirino after saving Rubik wpuld be incredibly stupid.
Mellow - Would have to assume I just openly outed my teammates for zero reason. I am gamethrowing in this world.
ExLight - You.

Would have to be Minish as the third.

hmmm
I guess that makes sense at first glance? I feel like there are some holes in it
stuff like "it would be stupid" is just wifom tbh
but in any case I don't think Rubik/You is viable in any way in the first place

and this is true because?

because all recipients for the messages would be scum, lol, it wouldn't make sense for it to be a real role in this case and both results would just be fake
but in this case things would be really weird unless they somehow checked tristan N1 and verified he was 3p?

 

[Legacy of Smiles]

And we know the messenger had to exist in that scenario because of Johnny knowing Mellow was 3p.

 

[ExLight]

And we know the messenger had to exist in that scenario because of Johnny knowing Mellow was 3p.

since the scenario you presented had johnny as scum, not really