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I was Samus, the attacker, as previously mentioned

So, uh... Who was everyone?

BOOM Leave it to Pendio to be scum.

@Pendio were killing you slowly. Anything to say?

Also, speaking of JC's death, I'll guess THAT was the Smash Ball

@Heroine of Time Our vig is Bryant, and I'm another town-allied attacking role. Im called an Attacker - it's like a weaker vig. Fro Cho, Master Hand have mercy on his soul, was the SK. I thinks that's the necessary roles and flips.

As of now, I believe I've attacked thrice: twice on Our Favorite Swede, and once on Eduarda, who I still didn't trust to follow town through to the end. I didn't deal the killing blow though - I was the second kill mentioned that didn't get to her until she was already dead

Also, when the person is over their defense parameter, it increases their likelihood to die by 20%.

No stipulations except the damage amount, which is twice my day-attack damage.

All right that's it Vote: Pendio I doubt his role almost completley now. I'm the cause of both nights of damage (it's part of my role) and him taking damage both times has given me a bad feeling about his claim. Attack: Pendio

It's been almost 12 hours since then I do believe

So... Is twilight nao?

I agree, it would be kinda OP for maf to have more than 1 attack per night, items nonwithstanding. Both options are possibilities but probably only on the nights with multiple big attacks. Which is why I'm thinking items. An SK would be stupid not to attack every night unless there was a...

They could've but then where's the Mafia attacks?

In case you wanted an answer, it came from a joke I made to Jamie in-Pm that actually gave me the idea to ask it. To explain more would require a role claim.

Tmw all people who scum attacked after last scum death are dead

You're closer than you know, mon ami. ;) Anyways, I think you guys see the point of me bringing this up. we can finally (probably) start trusting people who were attacked by scum since the last one died. @Shroom brings up a good point numbers-wise. I tend to assume 5, but that is indeed a high...

If there is only one remaining scum, I'd like to say, I talked to The Jam and he said that self-targeting is not allowed. With the thought that there's possibly only 1 scum left is just like to point that out. I feel there's more likely to be 2 myself, but it's all conjecture

@Frozen Chosen i think it's because of my play style. I tend to play low-key with a few townie moments, so most town players don't think about me when they can attack. Scum, on the other hand, realize that I tend to get myself mislynched 3-4 days in, so what's the use in attaching me when town...

This is true. I was just mentioning you two in specific in hopes of getting people to talk some more about the game. Give some direction. If anyone else has a new target by all means point them out to us.

Wow. Toxic was town. 0 Can we have more people pipe in on Pen and Fro? Even if you don't have anything original to say, just say which side of the fence you're on.

Also, thank you both for placing your arguments one more time. It was easier than going back through your ISOs to find them :P

Fro does bring up a lot of good points. Looking back after reading Fro's post, a lot of that stuff is very circumstantial, coming from the lens of Fro-Scum. Looking at it from a Null-Fro of Fro-Town lens could very easily change your perception of many of those points. My attack remains off Fro...

Those are some excellent points from the CoolGuy. You have me leaning on your side right now. Frozen, rebuttal. @Pendio no theories at all?

I know there are some versions of commuter that can be RBed, but I find that highly unlikely tbh. We'll see what The Pen says though

I like JC this game, but I don't like playing the numbers game, especially when we don't know. @JC-Hurin could you provide a list of your reasonings against Fro one more time? I'd like to see that again As for Pen, I find his claim interesting, but doubtful. Unless you can provide some chink in...

Neither.

A secondary killing role I'd say. There's a form of the double-voter role that says you have to give one of your two votes during the night before the day starts. I know LD and I used it in MTG Mafia. Explains why it's about the same amount as a normal vote. Either that or an item.

So boomeranged Toxic and either Hero or Fro.

I have no items yet :( Also, I did not target you JC. I'll try to come up with something to say tomorrow but I started work today. Getting used to a little bit

19 minutes later...

Is this a game-meta silencing thing or are you just waiting for us to be done talking to you? If you don't reply, I'll assume the former.

@Shroom I still find BP GF highly unlikely, and I think I'm slowly dragging people away from that idea. It would be kinda OP in this game IMO. Also, I was out for most of Day 2. I know you weren't playing then so it'd make sense youd miss that. As for your other suspicions, I won't blame Tristan...

I'll be honest, Doc's flip actually makes me feel more comfortable with Bryant. Confirms that were using the word vig and not some flavor word like attacker or something. Moving on, I've been feeling Toxic-scum since early, but I hate his inactivity. @Toxic_Snowman @Toxic_Snowman...

So Doc's town. Interesting. I'mma have to reread him. I want to hear some people's thoughts on how this flip leaves Toxic

we yelling cuz you usually take more than a few hours :P Plus, we're kinda waiting on a Doc-flip to make any sorts of decisions. We at least wanted ot make sure he was dead.

And I'm also just gonna @Jamie so that we only have to wait 2 days instead of 3 for Doc's death scene.

C'thulhu, may I suggest going back and rereading then? Many of your thoughts are based on out-of-date lack-of-knowledge, and that's not good for the game.

It could be one of two other things I say: 1) They claim they had an item and didn't trust having an anti-town/non-town leading the charge. 2) There was legitimately a person with an item who didn't trust having a third party person around. Of course, your Doc theory also holds water. I say he's...

I concur with your numbers, Pen. I'm expecting 2, but no more.

I will repeat, I don't think it was a BP person. I think it's just a chink in her role-armor. She doesn't hurt the person who deals the killing blow. You can't attack a person if you're already dead. Why are people so sure that it's a BP attack?

You're as free to have your suspcions as we are free to argue against them. Arguing against other peoples suspcions is part of the game.

By the way, now that I'm back playing, if anyone wants to ask me questions about specific things, particularly about yesterday but anything else, feel free to. I'll finish my catch-up and see if I can come up with a few targets. I do support this return to Toxic, though.

For the Eduarda thing, Jamie explained it. She died before she could retaliate, so the person didn't take damage. Makes sense to me.

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And in our defense, she asked.

i'm behind i'll post later

To be precise, I'm 16 pages back. Damn you guys were busy.