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Oh yeah he did, though not by really much-- Even if he'd just gambled a relatively small amount and lost it'd have put me ahead still most likely (an amount he could've recovered from ahead, but I also could've set the prices significantly higher and people woulda still probably bought most...

Yeah this was definitely the case and I was pretty aware of it from pretty early on that I would win almost no matter what happened as long as I didn't die in the first couple cycles and my paranoia of someone else taking the larger share of the money was wrong. Including more roles with a way...

I'm probably gonna regret this, aren't I...

I didn't say anything about accepting challenges to games you don't understand.

...I did not expect that to be an actual thing.

Don't challenge people to a game you don't understand.

Alright. I move Knight to C-3-Θ-!!-ㄥ6

This was a really cool setup! I don't think there were any roles I really disliked in the game; I'm kinda mixed on my opinion on the John Doe but all the roles were really interesting and I think I'd've been happy to have had any of them. You'll have to direct me to what site that's on if you...

...What. Half the game's convinced I'm 3p, and I can't remember if you're one of those people, but regardless, I'm fairly certain you acknowledged the possibility. And trying to get people to forget I'm a potential 3p seems not smart. Besides people knowing who the marketeer is isn't really bad...

So the vote splitting makes it harder to pile votes on her throughout the day, but not to CFD her like we pretty much ended up doing.

Jinjo's role wasn't actually weak. The wagon splitting thing should've made it significantly harder to lynch her, we just happened to get her far enough ahead in votes that it didn't matter. I'm inclined to think there's more to the puppeteer than the puppet. There's not much encouraging the...

You don't have to agree with them, but engaging with other people's thoughts can help you see the game differently and consider different possibilties, allowing you to have a better perspective overall, even if you ultimately decide you still disagree.

Forgot about this; but as she states later its not the only factor. I don't doubt that particularly, relying solely on one thing to solve the entire scumteam at this point would probably not be smart. Probably the only one I question is her KoD read, which she marks as stronger but says she's...

I should be confirmed as this because yesterday's sale is exactly what I said it would be. Tomorrow's is Rolecop and Strong. This sentence cuts off. Even if you're convinced he's town I don't see why you shouldn't engage with his thoughts? Opposing thoughts engaging with each other is...

Also I think that the list is heavily reliant on meta; Rav hasn't played with scum you or me so she doesn't have a solid sense of what to expect if the scumteam has one of us on it. But she has seen Minish, KoD, PK, and Numbers, and knows how they work with their scumbuddies. That said. I...

Also my post count is probably pretty inflated by series of double/triple/whatever posts where I respond to a bunch of stuff I could've easily covered all in the same post. Don't take that number under the Who Replied button to mean too much.

It's not impossible you threw a vote at your scumbuddy for distancing's sake, not expecting everyone else to latch onto the wagon like that, and then you were kinda stuck because of how backing off would look. If I remember right KoD was the main wagon when you voted? That makes it look possible...

I'll be fine if everyone else wants the night shortened. Yeah dealing with two EoDs at the exact same time isn't my favorite experience ever, but I managed yesterday and can manage again if needed.

Bussing is a thing, Socky. My vote could easily have been something like that to make myself look better. Granted, it might've been weirder since I think me switching is what made Jinjo the leading wagon, but with how sketch her claim is it probably would've occured anyway.

Activity =/= Alignment. Scum players can be highly active. 3p players can be highly active.

Socky has posted once during each night so far.

I checked his role PM to confirm this and that doesn't look like the case? Seems like only killing roles would damage his health, meaning Socky mighta done something to him. The Socky posts being a way to target seems kinda reasonable; I'd expect there to be something encouraging the account's...

Couple thoughts on the Socky post; I kinda get the impression that there might be some post restriction on the Socky account. I said Soul had the closest vibe to Socky, but that closest is not super similar, and the sign offs on both of Socky posts make it feel more post restricted. It might...

That should leave you with 225 left I believe if you don't get outbidded? And 825 if you do?

This is unnecessary, unless you really want the roleblocker. I have a secondary (annoyingly noncompulsory) ability that should be able to be used to confirm.

Also pointless but: Minish pretty much nailed it- a town Jinjo can generally be expected to have good contributions to the game aside from the OMGUSy stuff she always does, compared to the lower content scum Jinjo. I also usually depend on her interactions with a player by the name of Midorikawa...

Quoting broke and I am lazy so will not be fixing it. There's not a ton of point in me responding to this now that she's flipped but Minish is right about that difference between town and wolf Jinjo, and you bringing this up did slightly contribute to my vote shift, though it was mostly the claim.

I don't think she's particularly adept at fakeclaims, no. I referenced that she's slapped different names on existing roles before and called it a fakeclaim; I believe the last time I played with scum Jinjo she faked rolecop with a different name. I do not have high expectations for Jinjo...

You missed me, I told people not to vote Jinjo for OMGUSing several times because she always does that.

I don't know. If she's good at identifying power roles as scum I've never had a chance to see it; I've never gotten access to one of her scumchats in the postgame, and I've never been her scumbuddy, and if guessing PRs is a skill of hers, a scumchat she was in would be the place to learn that.

I don't know KoD well, but the strikethroughed part is the only line I'd expect to see him post, probably. And Numbers is saying strikethrough isn't his style, which I agree with, it creates a joking vibe that I wouldn't expect from KoD: I think he'd leave that unstrikethroughed. Honestly...

Unvote Seanzie Vote Jinjo Visitor is an actual role and I'm fairly sure Ex has familiarity with it, so a renamed visitor seems super improbable. This wouldn't be the first time I saw Jinjo fakeclaim an existing role with a new name slapped on, so this makes it extra bad.

...I actually might be inclined to vote Seanzie. His argument with Minish currently is not looking great to me and, while I agree with him that using the cop on the host is very bad, people have made good points about hypocrisy in relation to it, considering he was willing to waste a day on the...

I'm not sure yet; I intend to make that decision before the EoD. I'm not even sure what the top two lynches are at this point (KoD and Jinjo I think???), so I'm not sure I don't support them. I'd definitely prefer a Jinjo lynch to a KoD lynch if I have to choose between them; I don't even know...

Rag vote from Numbers seems reasonable. They make a good point about several people having addressed the meta issues which makes it seem weird to continue trying to use meta to read KoD. I'm not sure I would vote Rag, I'd want to check back at their posts, but this is probably one of the first...

Minish's questioning Seanzie aboyt whether he used his role doesn't seem unreasonable; it doesn't seem like she's trying to get more about what the role actually does, she just wants to know if he made use of the role he already claimed. I don't see this as scummy and not answering a simple...

I think ExLight stated in thread the number of shots one-shot items have is tripled by the pinata? I'd have to check. I townread KoD because I can't see much of a reason for scum to do the things he's done. The flavourcop claim was exceedingly pointless from a scum perspective I think...

This is basically what she always does. I don't know that Jinjo has the capacity to not do it regardless of her alignment. I don't have much of a read on Jinjo but I don't want to watch her get lynched for something she does virtually all the time if its the only reason people have tp scumread her.

Also not huge on no lynching today, lynching someone today would essentially just put us at the same number of deaths as there would've been had Storm died yesterday and I doubt people would suggest it in that situation. Not sure who I'd prefer to lynch though; I'd have to take a bit of time to...

Why are people voting Jinjo for OMGUSing? I told y'all earlier that she does that every freaking game. OMGUS is not scum indicative in the slightest from her, if you're going to vote her find a better reason.

Read their role PM again; it does not apply to the factional kill. It seems like they were trying to bait Mafia into blowing actions on them based on the "any action will kill me" thing, or blow the nightkill.

I think Mint is actually right about having it happen later in this Day Phase; it'll still affect the same night, and there'll still be the same number of players alive as there otherwise would be, but it gives us mode time to discuss things before the next night, which I find preferable.

Isn't quoting role PMs against the rules? Please don't do this anymore, it might be modkillable and getting yourself modkilled makes the game less fun for others. That's certainly a theory, but I doubt it. Let's save murdering the hosts for a last resort please? The puppet is part of an actual...

...Are you really OMGUSing the entire game? Because that is definitely what I get from this.

That's not exactly how I play, but I suppose it is a way to play. Let me ask a different question then: besides presumably yourself, who would you say your currently the least inclined to see dead and why? I can't tell from your list.

If I'm reading this list right the only people you have as town are Laur (dead) and yourself? Do you really not have any townreads of the living players?

Like I said, the roles would be weird in some way, even if they were similar to existing roles. Mine's in the money I get and the fact that I don't get to choose who takes the things.

The idea I think is to have the voting on the cop target be separate from the voting for a kill. I.e. I think Numbers should cop [player A] It wouldn't be someone close to being voted off because people wouldn't voted off the person who they were agreeing to have Numbers cop. Yes, a cop can...

I don't think I've seen you explain why you think Seanzie is scum? I might've missed it or forgotten but I would appreciate an explanation of that.

What? I've never played with a Bookie but a quick search says Bookie tries to guess the next day's elim and gets some benefit if they're right which is literally nothing like my role.