And, why should we trust you, again?
What part of my post asked you to trust me? Need I remind you that I'm always saying don't trust anyone, including in
this game?
What I see here is Axle leading a crowd. This disturbs me. If he had chosen to vote for Kybyrian, would you all have followed that vote too? We must be individual thinkers and think for ourselves. If in doing so, we come to the same conclusions as others then thats one thing. But to vote just because Axle is, is giving him all the power.
I love your blatant ignorance. You know full well that I'm for the lynching of chaotic townies, including many games where I myself was townie, and you're ignoring this and additionally failing to even mention it. You also know I'm a strong proponent of players thinking for themselves,
which is a point I've tried to stress in THIS game, which you've failed to mention.
You also condemn me for rallying players when you yourself do so. Furthermore, my rallying is out in the open while you've actually attempted manipulation.
I know I can convince people to lynch someone. Why would I not use this ability? As was already said, if
you felt strongly about something wouldn't
you try to convince as many people as possible to go with you? Of course you would. That's what I'm doing. By all means, don't just go along with me and give it your own thought, but I'm still going to encourage it as I feel it's important.
Actually, your brother TELLS people they need to vote for Linksbro. I'm not pin pointing anyone in particular and saying Hey YOU over there... You need to vote for this person, because they are a town, but a danger to society... A stupid town provides ground cover... I see no reason to take them out. Theres still also a chance he has been assigned a special role, and lo and behold you let Axle kill our doctor. That's the risk you take when you go and kill an obvious town.
I've TOLD people they need to? Let's see, what was my exact words...
I strongly encourage more votes for him so we can get this game back on track.
I'd like it if you could start basing your accusations on me in some fact and stop ignoring things you know to be true and actually consider how they clash with the theories you WANT to believe. You're starting to look even worse than you did early in the game.
My vote remains. Only anti-town roles gain by weeding out towns. Even if their bad townies... they still offer a layer of protection for the rest of us. You remember how I recommended making a threat list? Someone like Linksbro is a "no threat" he's obviously not mafia, I mean I suppose on an off chance he could be, but he's not playing this game smartly, which lets face it...Mafia Play smart. Mafia have to be cunning and full of trickery in order to push their agenda forward. They have to work together to stratagize on how to lead the votes in a direction they want, without unleashing supsicion, and they have to pick people to nightkill that wont reveal who they are, but eliminate their threats.
You're utterly wrong. Please take a moment to read the
entire thread. We've constantly had any hope of serious discussion derailed again and again by what? Ridiculous behavior. We had talk about which characters have what role, then Ky's codes, and both CP and linksbro's behavior. This has made us lose time discussing. It has been a
completely legitimate stop to the town's efforts. I've allowed useless players to live in past games where the players were more focused, but clearly we need to remove perpetual distractions if we're going to survive.
I actually kind of intended to get lynched at first because I was basically forced into signing up, but I guess I had a change of heart or something?
You say that, yes. It doesn't change the fact that your behavior was weird and suspicious and your statements do nothing to disprove that.
Also,you seem like you're trying to make people do what you are."I strongly encourage more votes".Correct me if i'm wrong,but you've been doing that the entire game.Though i'm not going to vote for you because
Hardly. I haven't done that at all, merely pointed out logical fallacies. Most of the stuff I've opposed or been aggressive about were accusations and statements that had no logical basis and were thus detrimental to the town. I don't intend to entertain those, and since they set us back I intend to do my best to stop them.
More so I led Axle than he led me. I was the first one to point fingers at linksbro, which I did early on in the game. Axle simply picked up on that and voted. He even mentioned agreeing with me in his post where he voted for linksbro. I had already intended to vote for linksbro because of the replacement of Cucco Power.
I came to the conclusion on my own, actually, and had been thinking it for a while but was a bit preoccupied with both you and Jo. In fact, the way I came out after you mentioned it first is the
most suspicious thing I've done. Following other people without pushing your own ideas is an effective Mafia tactic.
And as for Axle... yes he kind of is leading the charge. That his way, not really all his fault since people decide on their own to go with him or not. Now he has done this as one or our own before, a townie and as mafia too. What he is this time, I don't know. I am very worried about him, he is either one of our most valuable players, or our worst enemy... I think Jo is right to not blindly trust him, something in my gut is worrying me about him... too. I can't say he is acting out of character, but he could be either... he isn't the kind of player to act any differently noticeably depending on what role he has. Maybe it would be best to not off him on the first day, but wait a little bit?
Of course Jo is right not to blindly trust me, but that's the only thing she's said that makes any sense. Aside from that, yeah, you have a right to be concerned because frankly if I was Mafia there's a strong chance you'd never know, whether that sounds arrogant or not.
I don't know why you guys would vote linksbro while thinking he's a townie. That makes zero sense to me. It seems like people jumped ship from voting Cucco Power to linksbro, for the same reason. The point of the game is to find mafia members
As for the vote, I'm not going to vote anyone until we get more posts. Like I said above, I'd rather have a no lynch than vote for someone who we know is probably a townie, no matter how useless you guys think they might be. There is no reason to rush into a vote when no deadline has been announced yet.
I explained it above, and I really did explain to begin with in my original post voting for him. And the GOAL of the game is to find Mafia members. The point is to do whatever it takes to weed them out. Most of this game involves killing innocents, and sometimes they were as detrimental to the town as townies as they would have been as Mafia.
The threat, so to say, although it's more of a problem, is that you can never really know if they are mafia or townie. I realise this sounds ridiculous, and that you can never know for sure about anybody. But try to see my point. If a member, in this case, Linksbro, posts this:
or
In what way does this contribute to the game? The whole game is based on mistakes. How can you make a mistake in a post like that? It just takes up space and wastes everyone's time reading pages and pages of unnessessairy posts. We cannot see if it's a mafia post or a townie post. He could even be the SK, even if I doubt it!
That doesn't sound ridiculous at all; that's the ENTIRE BASIS OF THIS GAME. It is randomized. Literally anyone could be Mafia. And the point of being Mafia is not to be noticed.
And yes, that is another point here. Players like linksbro, there is no way whatsoever to read their behavior, and they have as much chance to be Mafia as any other. They are wildcards. Again, I don't think he is Mafia but I can't be sure and I think he's just as dangerous as a townie.
Axle and others have said that his posts are a threat to the town, but I think he has caused even more trouble for the town by starting the bandwagon. Look at all the time we are wasting discussing whether or not to vote for someone who most think is a townie. We need to shift focus and try to find mafia.
Again, I explained myself thoroughly at the top of this post. In addition, have you read the rules of this game? The only way we're going to actually lynch ANYONE is by majority lynch. So in a way either bandwagoning or all coming to the same conclusion is the ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET ANY LYNCHES THROUGH.
Everyone, I'd like to make a point:
So you've decided to vote off a completely usless townie. Dead serious I'm completely useless. Tell you the truth I think your Mafia.
Okay, I see the main reason a lot of you are voting on me is because of not being serious. Well I would have stopped if you asked. Just give me a chance and I won't.
8 votes. I see the reason, aculally no I don't. Is there a reason? I would like to hear from Axle why he wanted to lynch me. I just don't get it. Out of the 8 votes I'd say about 6 of you are mafia. Here's a list: Axle the Beast, Kybyrian, Epwna, Link to present, Turo602, Hazel, Thegreen. Thats 7 people! Just listen to me and everyone who agrees with me, I'm a townie. So, for starting this and getting so many followers.
I think I put someone in the by accident.... Hazel isn't mafia. Sorry about that. And yes, Ihave played this game before, not on a computer and with less people like 7 to 9. So if you keep me in I could keep me in I could be a huge benifet to the townies. Also I put in Turo by mistake.
How can you honestly see these quotes and say this player is going to be able to contribute anything this game? Especially those last two, but even in the first two we have him automatically accusing his accuser without really giving any reason (which I DID give). He also
asks us to tell him how to play, and I've constantly said to think for yourself. If he doesn't, he's going to be influenced by the Mafia.
Furthermore, even going with the idea that he's another townie as a buffer for later in the game, that's still another inexperienced townie who will likely put his vote on the wrong person or be controlled by the Mafia.
We have nothing to gain by leaving him alive and there are many factors he presents which can prove detrimental to us. My vote still stands as does my recommendation for others to follow suit.