Because he didn't need them.... lol.
Death battle Link vs Cloud Round 2?
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What god? He was never considered a god, just a big deformed bird looking thing...its on paper...and thats all that matters. Just like superman, pre-crisis comic superman tolls solar systems, just because there isnt a live action movie of him not doing it, doesnt mean he hasnt, just because there isnt a toon version of him doing it doesnt mean he hasnt. yet majority of the entire superhero communitys new created heros are rip offs of superman, just like majority of the games now days are rip offs of the originals that stem from zelda games that incorperate puzzles/dungeons, similar inventory ect.
Link dominates cloud, and on paper thats a fact.
Yet cloud fans so desperately cry, ***** and wine about it like little girls on every forum and blog on the web that they gimped cloud and gave link....everything?
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So you admit that Link needed everything just to beat Cloud with nearly nothing, even in this fantasy video? Gotcha, we are on the same page after all.
7 items isnt everything, and canonical cloud uses no materia/summons which the death battle atleast gave him more individual items/inventory/skills than they did link, (you must have missed that) no need for the shalants and if you wanna go a step further, then un-bar them literally everything other than the cloths they wear, and link with his base 10 ton strength, will disassemble cloud.
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If cloud was at his least ideal, he would be level one. Of which a rat could easily kill him.
Cloud can't do crap if he doesn't have proper levels.
It's interesting to note that Sephiroth is not a god. Merely God Like. Link has literally defeated a real God.
Not to mention Ganondorf, which is his own Diety, which Ganondorf could still defeat Sephiroth.
Exactly, since after FF7 being AC is the same cloud, he should have been lvl99+...Yet he was defeated by the rat pack and saved by valentine and bled from sephi. Which proves that in his verse power scaling is game mechanics.
Ganondorf destroying the whole of hyrule in ocarina of time while the sages aged link to an adult... beats sephiroth burning down a small village feat.
Its not even close at base or full potential.
Sephiroth is shown to be quite a bit more powerful than simply being able to burn down a village. His duel with cloud in AC showcases some of the destructive abilities he has.
Definitely not a weak villain by any means.
Yup, it also shows how his durability is limited to only several times being hit by a sword...which negates what link has always been about from day one, defense...durability...endurance...and arsenal. Saying link hides behinds them is like saying superman or thor hides behind having the most superpowers. No one is saying they cant dish out the pain, but I'm definitely saying they cant take the pain. Link can do both things (take the pain and dish it out). Strip away supermans flight, heat vision, super breath, x-ray vision, super hearing, super durability and leave him with only one element of strength and he will punch your head off...take away all of links arsenals, durability relics, enchanted items, spells ect, (and by proven game play showing hes above ten tons) and link will still punch clouds head off.
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Actually in FFVII it is revealed that Cloud was never in soldier.
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I honestly don't even see how this is a competition. Link's raw strength and agility puts him at an enormous advantage over anyone. Once boosted by items such as pegasus boots, gauntlets, masks, etc, there's no way anyone could beat him. Unlike Cloud, who starts out physically weak and levels up, Link's only changes were additions to his arsenal and magical knowledge.
With the magnetic gloves, Link could rip Cloud's sword from his hands without even coming near him. As for Cloud's magic, simply defending for a few minutes will quickly exhaust Cloud's magic energy, while Link can go on forever with Chateau Romani. Using Din's fire, elemental arrows, spin attack shockwave, Link can beat him from a distance. As for swordsmanship, Link has been shown to be able to parry and dodge any attacks thrown at him, and his speed allows him to cut in-between his foe's attacks.
On top of that, Link can slow time for his foes with Song of Time Inverted, teleport with Song of Soaring and other songs, summon storms and put people to sleep just by playing music.
Most of this is just the Hero of Time's arsenal, through the other games, Link has many, many, many other weapons and enchanted items that would put Cloud to shame.
With the magnetic gloves, Link could rip Cloud's sword from his hands without even coming near him. As for Cloud's magic, simply defending for a few minutes will quickly exhaust Cloud's magic energy, while Link can go on forever with Chateau Romani. Using Din's fire, elemental arrows, spin attack shockwave, Link can beat him from a distance. As for swordsmanship, Link has been shown to be able to parry and dodge any attacks thrown at him, and his speed allows him to cut in-between his foe's attacks.
On top of that, Link can slow time for his foes with Song of Time Inverted, teleport with Song of Soaring and other songs, summon storms and put people to sleep just by playing music.
Most of this is just the Hero of Time's arsenal, through the other games, Link has many, many, many other weapons and enchanted items that would put Cloud to shame.
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Depends what the buster sword is made from. It may not be steel in which case the magnetic gloves could not attract it.
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I believe the buster sword attaches to a magnet on Cloud's back, so yes it is magnetic. Although it's never said what specifically the material is that the sword is made of.
This fight is like suped up thor vs captain america, sure cap can get in a few blows here an there...but thor long range wise dominates him....and even if it it gets close range, link is vastly stronger and will dominate that scene...thats the benefit of having the shield, if even if someone is faster, link can block and deflect with both sword and shield in two sides of his body at once, this is what happened to cloud in advent children sephiroth who was faster up front was cutting him up and stabing him silly...even if he was faster than link, sephiroth would be either being deflected by the sword or hitting all shield.
Who is superior:
Long range cloud: magic fire/ice/lightning/earth and summons
(Link can heavily defend with immunity equipments, mirror shield can bounce most back, reflect spell can bounce most back, be defended by the hylian, be tanked, defended by 10 different mask, be defended by the staff of byrna, be defended by nayru, be defended by the magic armor, be defended by the magic cape)
+ Link can defend all of them 20 different ways
Long range link: has spells, dins fire, arrows/ice/fire/silver/light/bombs hook shot, boomerang, fire rod, ice rod, deku nuts, sling shot/seeds bombs sword beams, 3 medallions, a ball and chain,
(Cloud can only defend to this at minimum by his temporary spells reflect/protect)
+ Cloud Only 2 ways
We are talking about different colored orbs called materia and this:
vs all of this
Cloud is a one trick pony.
Even if you add in summons, links summons like the 4 giants...
4 Giants >>> All clouds summons at once.
So...in terms of overall fight:
- Long range winner: Link
- Close range winner: Link
- Mid range winner: Link
- Variety and diversity winner: Link
- Strength winner: link
- Spells winner: Link
- Durability winner: link
- Recovery winner: link
- Tactical winner: Link
- Base winner: Link
- Full powered winner Link
Pretty much to cloud supporters this is why he wins:
Cool cinematic visuals winner: Cloud
(Which has nothing to do with feats, capability's overall and negating his foes advantages)
Coolness does not protect you from a ***** slap.
lol And in that sense, you cant even call him a super soldier since he was never a soldier to begin with...so what is he? Drifter at best.
Drifter vs the hero of time? the hero of legend? the hero of hyrule? The hero of an entire universe?
At best you can call cloud a hero, but is he a solo hero? Nope.
But where does it state its unbreakable? Its handle did deflect sephiroths sword, but thats about it. Link is in the 10 ton base at least, 1,000 ton at mid with enhanced gloves, and 20,000 ton as a giant. In any base/mid/high link has enough to bend the sword into a balloon animal if its ordinary steel. If we are talking about composites here:
Link:
Pushing/grabbing/throwing/pulling
(Golden gauntlets)
- At base 10 tons (moves/lifts blocks bigger then him self in every series and throws gorons)
- Titan mits 50 tons
- Power bracelet 100 tons
- Silver gauntlets 500 tons
- Golden gauntlets 1,000 tons (or strength to move mountains)
- Giants mask 20,000 tons (throws twinmold)
- Composite twist Giants mask x golden gauntlets can technically push the planet
Other strength factors with power instead of grabbing ect:
Punching/smashing/crushing/slicing
(Handy glove)
+ Experts ring makes links punches equivalent to a bomb
+ Toss ring doubles the gloves strength (thats two mountains or two planets now as a composite)
+ Red ring doubles links sword power
+ Hammer and magical hammer busts boulders from small, medium and larger than link
+ The handy glove which ups links power to breaking blocks and busting through sheilds
(Experts ring)
http://zeldawiki.org/Magic_Ring
Other equipment's:
Cane of pacci: Flips any object.
Heres another indestructible item:
The staff of somaria, the blocks he creates cant even be broken by any boss in the game, so if cloud were to summon any one shotters or strong strikers, like bahamut or Kotr...link can just be unhitable behind it.
Sand rod and water wand, which in its self are power houses, what can cloud do to protect himself from inhaling 100s of pounds of sand/water? He cant deflect it with his sword sand/water as its to small/intangible.
Height, distance and travel is nearly nothing link has as an obstacle, link can fly with the fairy spell...this is why link is almost identical to thor, what ever thor can do link can do in a similar fashion...
Mystical items and enchantment's by gods >>> A super serum
Thor >>>> captain america
Link >>>> Cloud
What god? A man amoungs ants can kill them, but he still is just a man. Sephiroth is a giant deformed version of this:
Sephiroth is a deformed pigeon,
Ganon is usually called a god because you cant kill him even after his body is gone, he'll keep coming back...if sephiroths ghost is lingering link can end him with the phantom sword, if his spirit remains, link end him with the spirit sword. Link has a enchanted mystical weapon for any type of being.
Cloud defeated a low level monster, not a god. Even zack defated something more powerful.
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What god? A man amoungs ants can kill them, but he still is just a man. Sephiroth is a giant deformed version of this:
Sephiroth is a deformed pigeon,
Ganon is usually called a god because you cant kill him even after his body is gone, he'll keep coming back...if sephiroths ghost is lingering link can end him with the phantom sword, if his spirit remains, link end him with the spirit sword. Link has a enchanted mystical weapon for any type of being.
Love how you call sephiroth a deformed pidgeon but then neglect to mention that Ganon is literally a fatass pig. You are really just feeding your own hallucinations at this point ain'tcha.
There has never been a spirit sword in Zelda and the Phantom sword only works on the creature known as phantom or are you really just not paying attention to the series
Also if by spirit sword you mean Lokomo sword that still wouldn't work on a ghost otherwise there wouldn't be a malladus issue at all in that game.
Learn the games before you claim link is godly. He isn't.
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