Game Thread Square Enix Mafia

[Morbid Minish]

Ah, I see what it was. No specific details, but I read it in certain way and misremembered it as that.

 

[Princess Abigail]

or
y'know
she was roleblocked

seanzie being killed and minish being blocked N1 kinda sound like actions hapi would make tbh

Lmao why would I kill Seanzie their read on me pretty hard changed to town. I had no reason to kill Seanzie.

 

[Princess Abigail]

Lmao why would I kill Seanzie their read on me pretty hard changed to town. I had no reason to kill Seanzie.

And additionally when they were scum reading me it was for very weak reasons.

If I were scum I would hard focus on players who are threatening me. Dead men tell no tales is a valid ideology for scum to follow. And one I deeply subscribe to.

 

[15377]

Yes, but there likely aren't many passive roles in this game. Even Mikey himself has claimed some upside to his role, that we don't know if it's passive or not. Mikey has claimed miller already and Raven survivor. It's unlikely that a town roleblocker would go for one of them. And out of the rest of people it's likely the majority, if not all, aren't passive. We already know that Rag isn't, I'm not, I feel like Ex isn't from what he said earlier but I'm not sure on that, one would be the roleblocker, presumably 3 mafia, I think that leaves like 4 other people left I think. Pretty good odds of not hitting a passive role. And in the chance they did and roleblocker outed, we don't know what other town roles we have and neither does mafia so they either don't nk them, or rb can be doc'd/watched/etc. Town rb can find scum potentially, but they can also hinder important town roles, so if mafia wants to nk them so bad it's not the worst thing. It's not outing two roles if a townie confirms they have a non-passive role. Confirming two town that way seems like a good pay off.

Mikey is actually a fantastic target for town roleblocker last night. It allows TRB to put an action on the board in case they are tracked or such while minimizing the potential to interfere heavily with other town roles. I like how you're taking it as fact that Mikey and Raven are passive roles simply because they have claimed so though and thus everybody else should be likely to not be passive. If one or both is lying that increases the likelihood of the rest of the field to possibly be passive and skews things even further out of your perfect little universe you got there.
If somebody claims a N2 roleblock the roleblocker will have to claim to confirm it. And even then we still aren't guaranteed alignments because it could be two scum covering for each other. So really the only thing being netted here is role fishing.

 

[Mikey the Gengar]

My analysis is that isett is thinking critically about the game and that's a good start

 

[Morbid Minish]

Mikey is actually a fantastic target for town roleblocker last night. It allows TRB to put an action on the board in case they are tracked or such while minimizing the potential to interfere heavily with other town roles. I like how you're taking it as fact that Mikey and Raven are passive roles simply because they have claimed so though and thus everybody else should be likely to not be passive. If one or both is lying that increases the likelihood of the rest of the field to possibly be passive and skews things even further out of your perfect little universe you got there.
If somebody claims a N2 roleblock the roleblocker will have to claim to confirm it. And even then we still aren't guaranteed alignments because it could be two scum covering for each other. So really the only thing being netted here is role fishing.

Mikey is a decent town roleblock target if a town roleblocker doesn't have any scum leans or doesn't believe his miller claim. Though like I said, he did claim an upside to his role that we don't know if it is passive or not. I never took their claims as fact. I said in my post that they claimed to be those things so it's unlikely a town roleblocker would go for them. Which is true in a majority of cases. I don't have to accept that they are those roles as fact to believe that this early in the game a roleblocker would target elsewhere because of their claims.

If either of them are lying then they are claiming two of the more common passive roles, and such could easily be counter claimed if there are more passive roles in the game.

Yes, I detailed why a town claim of roleblocker to confirm blocked town wouldn't be a terrible thing. And if it's scumbuds covering for each other then they tie themselves together and thus if one is caught they both are. So catching two scum in one is still a positive.

 

[Morbid Minish]

Also, I don't openly role fish as scum. I only use posts by people to discuss the possibility of their role in scum chat, so that only scum has that info.

 

[Mikey the Gengar]

honestly the fact that more people are posting today is making me re-evaluate my day 1 reads because some people just weren't posting and now I have more data on individuals that's matching up really well with my expectations

tldr I'm not as willing to lynch minish today as I was yesterday

 

[RavenRaziel98]

So I got the OK to give you more information about my role
I do have an alternative win con. To achieve it, I have to collect a total of 13 specific objects. I can my hands on these objects on multiple ways. I can target a player, I get a random one each night (or at least I should, I didn't get one N2), I get one if I'm fulfilling specific requirements while lynching and some get distributed by other actions that I can't influence (like Seanzie dying before D3).
If I get all these objects this will result in a game ending win! So far I have three items (this is based on the assumption that I already started with the one item related to my character), meaning there should be 10 left.
I am not actively working on achieving this wincon (tracker feel free to track me) but I thought you should be aware that this game basically has a timer

 

[Mikey the Gengar]

okay let's kill em

 

[Mikey the Gengar]

Vote: RavenRaziel98

 

[RavenRaziel98]

If that's how you want it, fine by me, however...
This is an important note to all town members!

I will NOT provide any useful information at all by getting lynched. You WILL effectively waste a lynch.
I can't stop you guys from putting my head on the chopping block but I'll strongly recommend you not to!

 

[Morbid Minish]

So I got the OK to give you more information about my role
I do have an alternative win con. To achieve it, I have to collect a total of 13 specific objects. I can my hands on these objects on multiple ways. I can target a player, I get a random one each night (or at least I should, I didn't get one N2), I get one if I'm fulfilling specific requirements while lynching and some get distributed by other actions that I can't influence (like Seanzie dying before D3).
If I get all these objects this will result in a game ending win! So far I have three items (this is based on the assumption that I already started with the one item related to my character), meaning there should be 10 left.
I am not actively working on achieving this wincon (tracker feel free to track me) but I thought you should be aware that this game basically has a timer

Rag mentioned her item being stolen. So you're saying you didn't do that and that someone else can also take items?

Also, lynching you isn't wasting a lynch seeing as you can get 13 items before town lynches all mafia, causing us to lose. I don't really want to lynch you since mafia has just as much incentive to nk you so that you don't end the game early and cause them to lose as well. But you aren't exactly harmless to town.

Did you know that Seanzie dying before night 3 would grant you an item?

 

[a'lana]

Yes, but there likely aren't many passive roles in this game. Even Mikey himself has claimed some upside to his role, that we don't know if it's passive or not. Mikey has claimed miller already and Raven survivor. It's unlikely that a town roleblocker would go for one of them. And out of the rest of people it's likely the majority, if not all, aren't passive. We already know that Rag isn't, I'm not, I feel like Ex isn't from what he said earlier but I'm not sure on that, one would be the roleblocker, presumably 3 mafia, I think that leaves like 4 other people left I think. Pretty good odds of not hitting a passive role. And in the chance they did and roleblocker outed, we don't know what other town roles we have and neither does mafia so they either don't nk them, or rb can be doc'd/watched/etc. Town rb can find scum potentially, but they can also hinder important town roles, so if mafia wants to nk them so bad it's not the worst thing. It's not outing two roles if a townie confirms they have a non-passive role. Confirming two town that way seems like a good pay off.

seanzie was passive aswell though

 

[a'lana]

Lmao why would I kill Seanzie their read on me pretty hard changed to town. I had no reason to kill Seanzie.

does sean often get n1'd here?

I know that he used to often get n1'd on my site.