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First of all, sorry for any grammar or spelling errors. I’m from Germany and I started learning English a few years ago, so it might not be perfect.
Let’s start:
My timeline starts with TMC which shows the Origin of Vaati and the Four Swords.
After TMC I place OoT as it shows the Origins of Ganon. At the End of OoT after the sages have sealed Ganon in the Sacred Realm Zelda sends Link back in time where he informs the younger Zelda about Ganons plans and they together convince the King of Ganon being bad, so he commands the sages to execute him. After that Link travels to the Lost woods in search for Navi and MM takes place.
Some centuries after MM TP takes place. In this game Ganon is finally killed.
On the adult timeline Ganon escapes the Sacred Realm and in order to stop him the three goddesses send a flood which leads into WW. Ganon is killed in this game and after WW PH takes place.
After PH ST takes place
……………../--WW/PH--ST
TMC--OoT
…………….\MM--TP
Next I would like to place the Oracle games. I’ll place them after TP because Twinrova appears in them. But they were killed on the adult timeline so it has to take place on the child timeline. And because Ganon has to be dead it must take place after TP
LA comes after OoX. It could possibly also go after ALttP but I place it after OoX, cause in the end of OoX Link sails away, something there’s no reason for him to do in ALttP.
………………/--WW/PH--ST
TMC--OoT
……………..\MM--TP--OoX/LA
Ok, this was the easy part. The biggest problem I have now is the backstory from WW. So I’ll show you some important sentences.
“Long ago, there existed a kingdom where a golden power lay hidden. One day, a man of great evil found this power and took it for himself, and with it at his command, he spread darkness across the kingdom. But then...just as all hope had died, a young boy clothed in green appeared as if from nowhere. Wielding a blade that repelled evil, he sealed the dark one away and gave the land light. This boy, who traveled through time to save the land, was known as the hero of time. This boy's tale was passed down through the generations until it became legend.”
This is pretty much the story of OoT, except that the Hero of Time didn’t sealed Ganon. The sages did it. The intro also talks about the OoT story becoming a legend passed from generation to generation.
“And then a day came when a fell wind began to blow across the kingdom, and the great evil once again crept forth from the depths of the earth. The people believed that the hero of time would come again to save them, but the hero did not appear...”
“From the depths of the earth”? Shouldn’t Ganon have escaped from the scared realm? “From the depths of the earth” sounds more like he was dead and then reborn. And “A fell wind”? Wasn’t Vaati a wind mage? And one more thing I want to point out: Just imagine you were Ganon, there was a flood and all people are traveling to the mountain tops. Would you just sit there at Hyrule Castel or would you try to escape to the mountains too? What I think happened between OoT and WW, is Ganon died and was reborn, which explains his different backstory in FSA. After he stolen the trident, he got all his memories back and tried to conquer Hyrule. FSA takes place. When the WW intro talks about no hero appearing, they mean no hero strong enough to kill Ganon. He was only able to temporary stop him with a seal while the flood was coming. And do you remember the FSA-Hyrule being surrounded by water. Well, the flood already stared.
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[FONT="]“What became of that kingdom...? None remain who know. The memory of the kingdom vanished, but its legend survived on the wind's breath. On a certain island, it became customary to garb young boys in green when they come of age. Clothed in the green of fields, they aspire to find heroic blades and cast evil down. The elders wish only for the youths to know courage like the hero of legend…”[/FONT]
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[FONT="]This part of the intro shows us, that only one island was left to remember parts of the legend. It also talks about the legend “survived on the wind’s breath” Doesn’t sound like a very solid way to tell a legend to me. So it’s very much possible that the people of Outset Island messed parts of the legend up, forgot something or mixed some legends into one.[/FONT]
………………/--FSA--WW/PH--ST
TMC--OoT
……………..\MM--TP--OoX/LA
I’ll place FS directly before FSA, as in my opinion the golden goddesses had weaken Vaatis seal on purpose to test if there was a hero able to kill a great evil force. They didn’t find one, but at least someone able to stop Ganon temporary like said before.
Now there is one problem: There is no reason for Ganon to die between OoT and FSA. Something must have happened between these two games. What could have happened? How about ALttP? It has Ganon sealed in the Sacred Realm at the beginning and dead at the end. Its backstory also is very similar to OoT. And if there are some of you who say that OoT isn’t the backstory of ALttP because in OoT the sages were all from different races and the ancestors seam all to be human, I have an explanation for this problem. There’s no problem with Zelda, Nabouru, Saria, Rauru and Impa. We know the ALttP-Zelda being an ancestor of the OoT-Zelda. The other Maidens aren’t too old for being a Kokiri, the Gerudo-Maid just simple dyed her hair and there is no reason for the maiden not being hylian or shiekah. The only problems are the Goron und the Zora maid. The Zora maid can be explained rather simply. The Zoras evolved into the Ritos between OoT and WW. In ALttP we see something between a Zora and a Rito with a skin-colored skin and no fins just like a Rito, but also with no bill and wings just like a Zora. (This may be the time when they used the Grappling Hook). The Goron is harder to explain. We know Darunia and the Hero of Time being Sworn Brothers. What if one of Darunia's ancestors also had a sworn brother but no children on his own? The ancestor of his sworn brother would be the maid. As this whole being-a-sage-thing seems like a kind of magic to me, there is no reason for it to be passed down from father to son or something like this.
I also want to note, that Ganon has his Trident in this game. What if he sealed his memories in it, so that if he dies, he can get his memories back after being reborn?
………………/--ALttP--FS/FSA--WW/PH--ST
TMC--OoT
……………..\MM--TP--OoX/LA
Now only three games left: LoZ, AoL and SS
AoL is a direct sequel to LoZ
The only thing important for the timeline we know about SS at the moment is, that it shows the creation of the master sword. To place it we have to place another event first: The interloper war. I place it before TMC because the Triforce is shown at some places in this game, but never mentioned. So the people might know about it, but because they don’t know where the light sprits have hidden it, they don’t tell Link anything about it.
In OoT the Triforce is sealed in the Sacred Realm with the Mastersword. This could mean the Light Sprites have hidden it in the Sacred Realm and then they have sealed it with the Mastersword. To seal something with the Mastersword, the Mastersword must exist. This means SS takes place before TMC
…………………..…/--ALttP--FS/FSA--WW/PH--ST
SS--TMC--OoT
…………..………..\MM--TP--OoX/LA
Before I place LoZ/AoL I’ll have to explain something first; Ganons deaths and Ganon being revived. After OoT the timeline splits in the adult and in the child timeline. So there are two timelines. But Ganon dies in five games: LoZ, ALttP, OoX, WW and TP. OoX has an already dead Ganon that is revived by Twinrova and killed by Link a few minutes later. As mentioned before I have placed it after TP.
In Order to revive Ganon Twinrova used a very complicated Ritual that failed in the end so that Ganon was nothing more than a mindless beast that could theoretically be killed with the wooden sword. But in AoL the only think you have to do to revive Ganon is pouring Links blood on Ganons ashes. If it is so simply, why would Twinrova perform just a complicated ritual do revive Ganondorf?
The only reason I could think of is, because Ganon was killed differently in the games before them. In LoZ he was killed with the silver arrows. In TP he was killed with the Mastersword. But we don’t know about any situation one of these two attempts to revive Ganon succeeded. So there must be a third way to revive him. As mentioned before in FSA he was reborn as a simple Gerudo and got his memories back when he had stolen his trident. In the game before FSA, which is ALttP he was killed with the silver arrows. What if pouring Links blood on Ganons ashes is just a way to rush his rebirth and the only think necessary to revive Ganon is the person who killed him being dead? It would mean that Ganon would be reborn after Links natural death. With this in mind we can place LoZ/AoL rather easy.
The towns of AoL are named after the sages from OoT, so it must take place on the adult timeline. Ganon is killed in the game with the silver arrows, so it must take place before a game where Ganon is reborn as a simple Gerudo or where his origins aren’t explained. So the only place it fits in is between ALttP and FS/FSA. In LoZ Ganons origins aren’t explained so it can be placed after ALttP where he was killed with the Silver Arrows without problems.
And now my timeline is finished:
…………………..…/--ALttP—LoZ7AoL--FS/FSA--WW/PH--ST
SS--TMC--OoT
…………..………..\MM--TP--OoX/LA
Do you agree or disagree with it? Do you have any questions? Please tell me!
Let’s start:
My timeline starts with TMC which shows the Origin of Vaati and the Four Swords.
After TMC I place OoT as it shows the Origins of Ganon. At the End of OoT after the sages have sealed Ganon in the Sacred Realm Zelda sends Link back in time where he informs the younger Zelda about Ganons plans and they together convince the King of Ganon being bad, so he commands the sages to execute him. After that Link travels to the Lost woods in search for Navi and MM takes place.
Some centuries after MM TP takes place. In this game Ganon is finally killed.
On the adult timeline Ganon escapes the Sacred Realm and in order to stop him the three goddesses send a flood which leads into WW. Ganon is killed in this game and after WW PH takes place.
After PH ST takes place
……………../--WW/PH--ST
TMC--OoT
…………….\MM--TP
Next I would like to place the Oracle games. I’ll place them after TP because Twinrova appears in them. But they were killed on the adult timeline so it has to take place on the child timeline. And because Ganon has to be dead it must take place after TP
LA comes after OoX. It could possibly also go after ALttP but I place it after OoX, cause in the end of OoX Link sails away, something there’s no reason for him to do in ALttP.
………………/--WW/PH--ST
TMC--OoT
……………..\MM--TP--OoX/LA
Ok, this was the easy part. The biggest problem I have now is the backstory from WW. So I’ll show you some important sentences.
“Long ago, there existed a kingdom where a golden power lay hidden. One day, a man of great evil found this power and took it for himself, and with it at his command, he spread darkness across the kingdom. But then...just as all hope had died, a young boy clothed in green appeared as if from nowhere. Wielding a blade that repelled evil, he sealed the dark one away and gave the land light. This boy, who traveled through time to save the land, was known as the hero of time. This boy's tale was passed down through the generations until it became legend.”
This is pretty much the story of OoT, except that the Hero of Time didn’t sealed Ganon. The sages did it. The intro also talks about the OoT story becoming a legend passed from generation to generation.
“And then a day came when a fell wind began to blow across the kingdom, and the great evil once again crept forth from the depths of the earth. The people believed that the hero of time would come again to save them, but the hero did not appear...”
“From the depths of the earth”? Shouldn’t Ganon have escaped from the scared realm? “From the depths of the earth” sounds more like he was dead and then reborn. And “A fell wind”? Wasn’t Vaati a wind mage? And one more thing I want to point out: Just imagine you were Ganon, there was a flood and all people are traveling to the mountain tops. Would you just sit there at Hyrule Castel or would you try to escape to the mountains too? What I think happened between OoT and WW, is Ganon died and was reborn, which explains his different backstory in FSA. After he stolen the trident, he got all his memories back and tried to conquer Hyrule. FSA takes place. When the WW intro talks about no hero appearing, they mean no hero strong enough to kill Ganon. He was only able to temporary stop him with a seal while the flood was coming. And do you remember the FSA-Hyrule being surrounded by water. Well, the flood already stared.
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[FONT="]“What became of that kingdom...? None remain who know. The memory of the kingdom vanished, but its legend survived on the wind's breath. On a certain island, it became customary to garb young boys in green when they come of age. Clothed in the green of fields, they aspire to find heroic blades and cast evil down. The elders wish only for the youths to know courage like the hero of legend…”[/FONT]
[FONT="]
[/FONT]
[FONT="]This part of the intro shows us, that only one island was left to remember parts of the legend. It also talks about the legend “survived on the wind’s breath” Doesn’t sound like a very solid way to tell a legend to me. So it’s very much possible that the people of Outset Island messed parts of the legend up, forgot something or mixed some legends into one.[/FONT]
………………/--FSA--WW/PH--ST
TMC--OoT
……………..\MM--TP--OoX/LA
I’ll place FS directly before FSA, as in my opinion the golden goddesses had weaken Vaatis seal on purpose to test if there was a hero able to kill a great evil force. They didn’t find one, but at least someone able to stop Ganon temporary like said before.
Now there is one problem: There is no reason for Ganon to die between OoT and FSA. Something must have happened between these two games. What could have happened? How about ALttP? It has Ganon sealed in the Sacred Realm at the beginning and dead at the end. Its backstory also is very similar to OoT. And if there are some of you who say that OoT isn’t the backstory of ALttP because in OoT the sages were all from different races and the ancestors seam all to be human, I have an explanation for this problem. There’s no problem with Zelda, Nabouru, Saria, Rauru and Impa. We know the ALttP-Zelda being an ancestor of the OoT-Zelda. The other Maidens aren’t too old for being a Kokiri, the Gerudo-Maid just simple dyed her hair and there is no reason for the maiden not being hylian or shiekah. The only problems are the Goron und the Zora maid. The Zora maid can be explained rather simply. The Zoras evolved into the Ritos between OoT and WW. In ALttP we see something between a Zora and a Rito with a skin-colored skin and no fins just like a Rito, but also with no bill and wings just like a Zora. (This may be the time when they used the Grappling Hook). The Goron is harder to explain. We know Darunia and the Hero of Time being Sworn Brothers. What if one of Darunia's ancestors also had a sworn brother but no children on his own? The ancestor of his sworn brother would be the maid. As this whole being-a-sage-thing seems like a kind of magic to me, there is no reason for it to be passed down from father to son or something like this.
I also want to note, that Ganon has his Trident in this game. What if he sealed his memories in it, so that if he dies, he can get his memories back after being reborn?
………………/--ALttP--FS/FSA--WW/PH--ST
TMC--OoT
……………..\MM--TP--OoX/LA
Now only three games left: LoZ, AoL and SS
AoL is a direct sequel to LoZ
The only thing important for the timeline we know about SS at the moment is, that it shows the creation of the master sword. To place it we have to place another event first: The interloper war. I place it before TMC because the Triforce is shown at some places in this game, but never mentioned. So the people might know about it, but because they don’t know where the light sprits have hidden it, they don’t tell Link anything about it.
In OoT the Triforce is sealed in the Sacred Realm with the Mastersword. This could mean the Light Sprites have hidden it in the Sacred Realm and then they have sealed it with the Mastersword. To seal something with the Mastersword, the Mastersword must exist. This means SS takes place before TMC
…………………..…/--ALttP--FS/FSA--WW/PH--ST
SS--TMC--OoT
…………..………..\MM--TP--OoX/LA
Before I place LoZ/AoL I’ll have to explain something first; Ganons deaths and Ganon being revived. After OoT the timeline splits in the adult and in the child timeline. So there are two timelines. But Ganon dies in five games: LoZ, ALttP, OoX, WW and TP. OoX has an already dead Ganon that is revived by Twinrova and killed by Link a few minutes later. As mentioned before I have placed it after TP.
In Order to revive Ganon Twinrova used a very complicated Ritual that failed in the end so that Ganon was nothing more than a mindless beast that could theoretically be killed with the wooden sword. But in AoL the only think you have to do to revive Ganon is pouring Links blood on Ganons ashes. If it is so simply, why would Twinrova perform just a complicated ritual do revive Ganondorf?
The only reason I could think of is, because Ganon was killed differently in the games before them. In LoZ he was killed with the silver arrows. In TP he was killed with the Mastersword. But we don’t know about any situation one of these two attempts to revive Ganon succeeded. So there must be a third way to revive him. As mentioned before in FSA he was reborn as a simple Gerudo and got his memories back when he had stolen his trident. In the game before FSA, which is ALttP he was killed with the silver arrows. What if pouring Links blood on Ganons ashes is just a way to rush his rebirth and the only think necessary to revive Ganon is the person who killed him being dead? It would mean that Ganon would be reborn after Links natural death. With this in mind we can place LoZ/AoL rather easy.
The towns of AoL are named after the sages from OoT, so it must take place on the adult timeline. Ganon is killed in the game with the silver arrows, so it must take place before a game where Ganon is reborn as a simple Gerudo or where his origins aren’t explained. So the only place it fits in is between ALttP and FS/FSA. In LoZ Ganons origins aren’t explained so it can be placed after ALttP where he was killed with the Silver Arrows without problems.
And now my timeline is finished:
…………………..…/--ALttP—LoZ7AoL--FS/FSA--WW/PH--ST
SS--TMC--OoT
…………..………..\MM--TP--OoX/LA
Do you agree or disagree with it? Do you have any questions? Please tell me!
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