More Than One Ganon?

[Midna666]

Thoughout the Zelda series, there have been multiple Links and Zeldas.
But what about Ganon?

Some people believe that FSA introduceds a new Ganon, the Gerudo seem to have no respect for him, he's after the Trident of power.

So do you believe that there's more then one Ganon, or do you think that it's always the same person.

I personally think that there is more then one Ganon.
The old Ganon dies on the child timeline in TP, and dies in WW on the adult timeline.
These deaths seem too final for that Ganon to come back in my opinion.

 

[Zarom]

You're forgetting that in FSA, there is Ganondorf, we don't see him, but the maidens talks about him saying: Ganon...he was once human...so after taking the Trident, he became Ganon.

You're also forgetting that he may dies, but in some games, (like OOX), Ganon is actually resurrected by Twinrova.

So, no, I think there is only one Ganon/dorf. :ganondorf:

 

[sign of table]

FSA introduces a new Ganondorf. There has to be atleast 2.

Although I'd say a 3rd may be likely for LoZ/AoL.

A few things to note about his titles.

In LttP and FSA (after getting the trident) he is the Yami no Maou, which is Japanese for Demon King of Darkness (IIRC... I only remember this because of the repetitive debates about LoZs position that Ollathir put us through on ZU ).

In LoZ he is just the Daimou, which means Great Demon King.

In OoT I believe he is called the Maou up until the last fight where Navi calls him Daimaou (Dai means big or great, ma means demon IIRC, and Ou means king). I could be wrong on this one. Maybe Erimgard could correct me on this one? Ehhh just look through the translations threads on ZI/LA and you'll find the explanation in there... some where.

OoX is a bit odd. Before he is resurected everyone calls him the Daimaou, but after being resurected and then when he dies, he calls himself the Yami no Maou. I'd say it could mean 2 things. That his titles don't really matter and he can call himself whatever the hell he wants, or that it's a transition from him being the Daimaou to being the Yami no Maou.

Think about it. Before OoX was released it went:
OoT-LoZ/AoL-LttP
Most people agree that LoZ/AoL-OoX is really, really likely. It flows pretty perfectly (better than LttP-OoX, imo). Now look at his titles:

OoT (gets the Triforce and becomes the Daimaou) - LoZ/AoL (is the Daimaou and has his own Makai (NO I am NOT getting into this lol (Erimgard'll get it )) - OoX (is the Daimaou then maybe becomes the Yami no Maou) - LttP (is now the Yami no Maou)

Or his titles don't matter in the slightest, which is the one I generally believe. But it's worth thinking about.

I don't remember what he was called in TWW... I think it may have been Daimaou but I'm not sure.

Then TP he's... ugh I'm not sure at all. I recall it being "Demon Beast", but I'm really, really unsure about this one.

Then there's Jaaku no Ou, which is King of Darkness. Which seems to be able to refer to any of the Ganons.

 

[007Ganon]

I believe that there are 2 ganons. Also, I don't necessarily think that there is a past and a future split time-line. Here is my explanation:

In OoT, Link is sent through time 7 years into the future to beat Ganon who has caused havoc all over the land of Hyrule. After the events of OoT, Zelda sends Link back into the 7 years past. Link goes back to the castle to tell Zelda of the news. She then proceeds to tell the King of Hyrule of what happened. Ganon is then sent to be sealed away by the sages, of which are still intact because Ganon has not caused Havoc to Hyrule. After he was sealed away, the future (of when Zelda sent link back 7 years and no Link was there) that we know it to lead to WW has been completely erased forever.

A short while later, Link tells Zelda that he must leave to find his friend Navi. He then leaves Hyrule. After years of peace, Ganon escapes the seal and takes over Hyrule, which then proceeds into the great flood because Link never came back to stop Ganon. I wonder why that is? Well, in MM, Link traveled through a hallway that twisted. Most people believe Link went through a parallel dimension. If that is the case, then there are two Hyrules: Hyrule A and Hyrule B (After going through the hallway). Also at this time his Triforce of Courage must of split into 8 shards during going through it. He wasn't in Hyrule A anymore. The forest he was in, in this case, must of still been part of Hyrule. Link travels in the forest after the events of MM. Who knows where he went. Though it defiantly would lead to TP because he eventually makes it back to Hyrule (Hyrule I believe.

So, in conclusion, Hyrule B leads to TP while Hyrule A leads to WW. Thinking from a "Back to the Future" perspective, there is no possible way that a past branch in the time-line and a future branch in the time-line could exist, as something in the past can change something in the future. The hallway in MM is something that seems to be overlooked in my opinion, and could maybe be the major key between this split time-line. There are two different ganons in this case.

 

[Skull_Kid]

FSA introduces a new GANONDORF, not a new Ganon.
Well, it's even more than clear that even though it's a new ganondorf, it's the same ganon

 

[Megamannt125]

That is possible, since at the end of TP (that is if you put it directly before FS/FSA) Ganondorf looks like he died, actually died, his eyes went blank and he let out one final breath. If he was reborn then that means the Goddesses have some sick pleasure in all the trouble he's causing so they keep making new links, zeldas, and ganons.

 

[Pinecove]

There are two Ganondorfs. One in FSA and one in OoT. GANON on the other hand is the same entity throughout the entire series.

 

[startimer]

Well my theory is...different. In short I believe in 3 ganons.

the OoT/WW/TP ganon
the Alttp ganon
the FSA/LoZ/OoX ganon

I'll provide an ezplination if anyone cares, right now i'm tired and don't feel like it

 

[Pinecove]

Why can't AlttP Ganon be the same one from FSA?

(BLOODY EFFING FIFTY CHARACTER LIMIT)

 

[startimer]

simply because i dont believe FSA to be the SW. FSA ganon was sealed in the FS throughout the events of Alttp, and was then freed, leading to the events of LoZ.

(IMO)

 

[Pinecove]

FSA doesn't have to be the SW for ALttP to come after it silly.

But denying the connections from FSA-AlttP is madness as it has the same geography, the same castle and the forest theives story. And much more, but I'm too lazy to remember right now.

 

[startimer]

FSA doesn't have to be the SW for ALttP to come after it silly.

But denying the connections from FSA-AlttP is madness as it has the same geography, the same castle and the forest theives story. And much more, but I'm too lazy to remember right now.

...what? all i said was that Alttp and FSA had different Ganons.
I still believe that Alttp comes after FSA

 

[Pinecove]

...Okay now I'm confused. Explain please.

(50 char 50 char 50 char 50 char)

 

[startimer]

^lol^

anyway, It starts with the SW. Ganon A (alttp ganon) gets sealed in the SR.

then Ganon B (OoT ganon) comes along, OoT and TP happen, now Ganon B is dead.

Ganon C (FSA ganon) finds the trident, the events of FSA take place, now Ganon C is sealed in a sword.

Then Aghanihm appears, and the events of Alttp take place. Ganon A is dead.

Then Ganon C gets freed and LoZ takes place.

Ganon C is later revived in OoX, but quikly gets defeated.

(again, thats all IMO)

P.S. sorry if thats a little confusing, i tried to put it as simply as possible

 

[Colin Creevey]

There are 2 Ganondorfs and 2, maybe 1, Ganon.

That is the minimum, though more Ganons may be speculated upon.