As far as my suspicions go, I'm getting suspicious of Keyshe, not because of anything she's said, but they way she's talking down to everyone from her professional-mafia-player pedestal. Maybe she's actually frustrated and maybe she's trying to come off as someone who is town.
Green, I'm not a professional at mafia. I'm still a newbie. Axle, Bay, MK9, and Viral are professionals, I am not. I've... never
claimed to be either. But I've read the rules, and watched many games, and use as much logic as I can,
always. Also the people I've focused on are legitimate suspicions and investigation. You are ignoring two other really big factors here. Both
involve Axle, I'm doing very little different then him, saying very similar points and facts, pushing that you all should be using logic and actually reading. Two, the points I've been pushing... can be read in the
Mafia Beginner's Guide. And yes, I am frustrated, look how the last day went. Axle was lynched based on very little evidence, taking out one of our best townies, and a power role. There is no pedestal that I'm on, the town is in a boat with a leak, and it's quickly taking on water. I'm trying to bail out the water and yelling for someone to plug the leak. The last two mafia games have ended with a win for the mafia, and pretty easy wins as I see it. If things don't get on track soon, we are headed that way.
I learned the hard lesson my first game, I was Vigilante. I kept to myself, and I became positive that MK9 was the killer on day one. (the Godfather too saw what I did, he said in the thread), but I didn't say anything thinking I could just take him out during the night, better that way, keep quite, stay alive. But because I didn't I lost focus and doubted myself, that night I killed Durion instead. MK9 killed Viral to frame ChargewithSword... there was a good chance, I could have prevented that by pushing for a lynch. That was a bad day for the town, we killed three smart active players: our lynch Xinnamin, Viral(MK9's), and Durion (mafia and I killed.) You can't wait for someone else to help the town and get the game on track, you do it yourself. If it wasn't for Vergo, PJ, and me the game would have been lost, the other townies more or less weren't playing much, we were taking all of our good players out and people left and right were dying from being inactive. Charge helped a lot too, but he was our Axle that game, and we FOSed him all over the place for doing his job as a townie. He investigated and well, but he was unfairly (illogically) thought as scummy for it. I'm sorry that I am coming off as big-headed, but no one has tried to learn from past mistakes, and have been repeating them game after game...
I'd absolutely love to analyze some people right now, but most of the things I will say against them probably apply to myself, resulting in me to be lynched... but what must be done must be done I suppose. I'll be coming right back atcha with my own views when I can.
EBWODP... never mind. I give up. Maybe I'll actually put in the effort at the beginning the next day so it doesn't come to this again. Just know that I'm suspicious of Pocket Asian and Jo at the moment. Take the time to read over some of Axle's posts for Jo and Pocket Asian's posts to get info on him if you actually care.
If you have suspicions, don't be afraid to say them. I still need to get more quotes since our conversation has gotten so convoluted, but about MK9... maybe you now have read Axle's guide, but I'm still going to say this: MK9 playing different than he did as a Mafia and Serial Killer doesn't prove that he is town. Only a very dumb and bad player changes how they play based on what role they have; it would be too easy to figure them out. Why would MK9 play like a good town and investigate hard when he is scum, but when he is townie not care to play? That doesn't make any sense, especially since he's a very intelligent player. He's suspicious because he doesn't do anything, and votes while saying he has reasons he never posts even though he
says he will.
But in all seriousness, I slipped under everyone's radar in round 2 and I've been doing the same in this round. Why do you think I do this? Is this what's making you suspicious of me? Or is it my amount of short, ridiculous responses to some of the events that have happened?
Pocket... that some seriously creepy comments there. Almost like a taunt I would say. This wouldn't be the first time you done so either....
@Bayside, Jo ever since the beginning of the game Hero of Music has left me uneasy, something about him sticks in my mind. Though I have not been able to find anything solid. When I saw in Axle's
last posts that he too was suspicious of him I became even more wary. You are the only person that I can think of that I have a chance of talking to and bouncing off ideas, with Axle gone now. What is your impression of him? From what I've seen he is active but says little. He doesn't really come out and contribute much, but goes with what others have said and pointed out. With the crowd.
Oh, Charge and Supersilly... if you come in here care to join in on this too?
Some previous HoM quotes for context... Note how it took effort to get him to explain himself in detail, resulting in one of his best posts, then he relapses and starts laying low.
IGMEOY: Hero of Music (are you pushing for an early vote with no evidence or reason? Wanting to movie the discussion into speculation that is fun but unhelpful?) and Bayside (she very serious and seems to be annoyed at the pro-townie roles, perhaps rallying us against them? With not a whole lot of reasons...) Not much suspicion but I do have some...
I understand that. I just wanted to get a more active discussion about the game and current players, not about the MM characters that apply to each role. But I got my eye on Axle, Bayside, and Keyshe. All acting suspicious...
@linksbro321: Exactly. Plus... Bayside is acting weird.. Very aggressive. And Keyshe went and accused me of trying to get a conversation going. And Axle is accusing others (ish) too.
Alright, that part sounds reasonable but you haven't really addressed the two things that I was worried about Also you said---
Yes, the roles are unimportant and unnecessary, but they are fun to think about.
So are you saying that that quote wasn't about the roles
based on MM characters? That's the only thing I could have thought of as
"fun to think about". Trying to think of
do we have a cop, or a doctor or who is the doctor, doesn't sound fun or helpful to me... what one did you mean?
Also it isn't very good to say you are suspicious with out giving a
reason,
what and
why are you suspicious of
Axle,
Bayside, and
myself? I am guessing this is one of your first games, am I right?
It's my first game on the forums, but I've played and moderated many games of mafia (or similar) in party groups, so I know the game well. One of my earlier strategies to get people to talk about the game is to accuse people. Then they all say "It can't be him!" or "well... maybe..." or similar. I keep my own assumptions to myself and vote when its time.
And I'm sorry that the first post wasn't that clear. That quote about the roles being unimportant and necessary was meant to mean that it would be fun to imagine which the MM characters fit into each role, but it should be done at some other time. And I wanted discussion about each player's roles. I'm sorry for not being clear. Also, I'm not entirely used to the "week long day periods" so I was trying to push for discussion as if the day period only lasted a few minutes.