Game Thread Little World of Gumball Mafia: Day 4 (Endgame)

[Player 10]

This doesnt really address anything I said okay thanks

Good to know youre now saying you couldn't have been saving a scum partner because now you think maybe they were town ok

At the very least I want you to explain to me why you insisted on a kitb when you supposedly were trying to save an investigative from death. Why would you say that

Who do you want to lynch today or better can you make a reads list can you comment on my reads list how are you reading me currently whats your favorite color do you play mafia often what are your feeling on Ace Attorney on a scale 1-10 how not town are you?

I didn't think they were for sure that they were investigative, I just thought it was a credible risk. I figured there was more upside to potentially saving them or forcing someone else to break the tie and tip their hand.

I'll do more in depth profiling if time allows it, but I can't really type much from my phone.

My favorite color is black.

Ace Attorney is okay.

2/10 factoring in play, because I've unfortunately made a reckless move that might hurt town by causing a mislynch.

 

[Player 10]

Wait, that wasn't directed at me.

 

[Player 13]

Favorite Color is orange. Ace Attorney games are super fun but time consuming so I've only played 2 of em'.

Heh all these identity questions. Feels more fun to keep my identity as vague as possible, but I probably would come off as more town if I'm completely honest, and I guess that's what really matters in the end. I have played Mafia a decent amount, but I haven't played in a very hot minute.

7. Game wise I feel I've been almost entirely impartial, with my more unreasonable moment, voting Wise, being mostly born from a desire to rile up activity. I can go into this more, or even explain at least the level of significance of my role if needed, but I haven't seen anyone pose any accusations left so I feel best continuing the way I have.

I wouldn't do that kind of stupid gambit to save an inactive scumbud unless I had a donkey brain (which I realize doesn't clear me because my brain's species is currently indeterminate given the anonymous nature of the game) but it's clearly a poor choice for scum to try to reduce their scumbud's chance of getting lynched by 50% at the cost of looking really awful if they did flip (because we'd be working with the assumption that I knew their role would flip as "poisoner"). I'm aware "it's a dumb so no one would do it" doesn't exactly justify my actions, but I think "it makes more sense as town to have been doing something that makes sense for town to do over a move that just causes scum to immediately lose 2 members half the time".
I'm also not fully sold that they're mafia, but it's decently likely.

If you wouldn't do such a stupid gambit to save a scumbud, why do such a stupid gambit to save a investigator?

If Estatic flipped town we could have lost an important role, let the poisoner walk away, and make you seem like the tie breaker who voted specifically to kill the townie.

Both of these results seem way too stupid for a town or mafia to do, but you chose to risk it for some reason or another.
If you would have come out saying you thought both were scum, or that Estatic was maf and Wise was important, I would have believed you more maybe. But the excuse you've used seems a little to flimsy to me.

Like #6 said nothing should have stopped you from posting even a little reason. I wasn't certain about my Wise vote, but I at least wanted to make some attempt to justify it in the time we had before the deadline.

I didn't think they were for sure that they were investigative, I just thought it was a credible risk. I figured there was more upside to potentially saving them or forcing someone else to break the tie and tip their hand.
2/10 factoring in play, because I've unfortunately made a reckless move that might hurt town by causing a mislynch.

Why would it have been more beneficial to force someone else to make that choice? If you wanted to save wise couldn't you have asked people to join your correct bandwagon?

Not feeling the townie best vibes. Seems like your only defenses are that Wise was important, and that we would cause a mis-lynch if we voted for you. Anyone can claim that we're lynching the wrong role, I'd rather know why it's important you stay alive?

Really only my overview of what I've read up to know. I'll be back UmU

 

[Player 10]

Favorite Color is orange. Ace Attorney games are super fun but time consuming so I've only played 2 of em'.

Heh all these identity questions. Feels more fun to keep my identity as vague as possible, but I probably would come off as more town if I'm completely honest, and I guess that's what really matters in the end. I have played Mafia a decent amount, but I haven't played in a very hot minute.

7. Game wise I feel I've been almost entirely impartial, with my more unreasonable moment, voting Wise, being mostly born from a desire to rile up activity. I can go into this more, or even explain at least the level of significance of my role if needed, but I haven't seen anyone pose any accusations left so I feel best continuing the way I have.


If you wouldn't do such a stupid gambit to save a scumbud, why do such a stupid gambit to save a investigator?

If Estatic flipped town we could have lost an important role, let the poisoner walk away, and make you seem like the tie breaker who voted specifically to kill the townie.

Both of these results seem way too stupid for a town or mafia to do, but you chose to risk it for some reason or another.
If you would have come out saying you thought both were scum, or that Estatic was maf and Wise was important, I would have believed you more maybe. But the excuse you've used seems a little to flimsy to me.

Like #6 said nothing should have stopped you from posting even a little reason. I wasn't certain about my Wise vote, but I at least wanted to make some attempt to justify it in the time we had before the deadline.



Why would it have been more beneficial to force someone else to make that choice? If you wanted to save wise couldn't you have asked people to join your correct bandwagon?

Not feeling the townie best vibes. Seems like your only defenses are that Wise was important, and that we would cause a mis-lynch if we voted for you. Anyone can claim that we're lynching the wrong role, I'd rather know why it's important you stay alive?

Really only my overview of what I've read up to know. I'll be back UmU

Estatic

 

[Player 10]

Whoops, accidentally hit "post".

 

[Player 10]

Favorite Color is orange. Ace Attorney games are super fun but time consuming so I've only played 2 of em'.

Heh all these identity questions. Feels more fun to keep my identity as vague as possible, but I probably would come off as more town if I'm completely honest, and I guess that's what really matters in the end. I have played Mafia a decent amount, but I haven't played in a very hot minute.

7. Game wise I feel I've been almost entirely impartial, with my more unreasonable moment, voting Wise, being mostly born from a desire to rile up activity. I can go into this more, or even explain at least the level of significance of my role if needed, but I haven't seen anyone pose any accusations left so I feel best continuing the way I have.


If you wouldn't do such a stupid gambit to save a scumbud, why do such a stupid gambit to save a investigator?

If Estatic flipped town we could have lost an important role, let the poisoner walk away, and make you seem like the tie breaker who voted specifically to kill the townie.

Both of these results seem way too stupid for a town or mafia to do, but you chose to risk it for some reason or another.
If you would have come out saying you thought both were scum, or that Estatic was maf and Wise was important, I would have believed you more maybe. But the excuse you've used seems a little to flimsy to me.

Like #6 said nothing should have stopped you from posting even a little reason. I wasn't certain about my Wise vote, but I at least wanted to make some attempt to justify it in the time we had before the deadline.



Why would it have been more beneficial to force someone else to make that choice? If you wanted to save wise couldn't you have asked people to join your correct bandwagon?

Not feeling the townie best vibes. Seems like your only defenses are that Wise was important, and that we would cause a mis-lynch if we voted for you. Anyone can claim that we're lynching the wrong role, I'd rather know why it's important you stay alive?

Really only my overview of what I've read up to know. I'll be back UmU

I mean, I think Estatic looked the scummiest to me off the three in threat range and I said as much.

I wanted to see how people would react to my last minute play and I figured forcing the KitB was higher info than just letting someone who I had a blind gut feeling would be investigative get lynched without a fight.

I most likely made the wrong move in that situation and I realize that, but I legitimately thought it was the right move at the time. I just sort of got carried away with the idea of forcing the knife in the box and didn't really think through the fact that there could be consequences.

Bleh, I wish I didn't always cause stuff like this to happen.

 

[Player 6]

Who do you want to lynch today or better can you make a reads list can you comment on my reads list

Why do you answer the less important questions and not the relevant ones

Heh all these identity questions. Feels more fun to keep my identity as vague as possible, but I probably would come off as more town if I'm completely honest, and I guess that's what really matters in the end. I have played Mafia a decent amount, but I haven't played in a very hot minute.

Can you at least tell me if you think you could even be successfully identified?

Bleh, I wish I didn't always cause stuff like this to happen.

What else is on your resume

 

[Player 13]

I'm writing an essay of reads so hold on a bit longer lolol
Yes. That was kind of why I brought it up.
Ie. I can probably prove to you tonight I was town if that tickles your fancy

 

[Player 13]

Oh I think I read that question wrong....

 

[Player 13]

Or rather I answered the wrong question because I was skimming...
F my sleep is getting in the way of my reading comprehension.
I could be identified yeh but you've have to have a very large brain lmao.

 

[Player 13]

#1 Gumball the Agitated

5/10. More of a gut feeling. Don’t like how they are playing:

Unvote: Player 6, Vote: 12



Bandwagoning on my meme vote with a garbage reason. What are you going to do of note during the beginning of a game?



I hope you're Ragnarokio

She asks people to vote on the slightest pretext, but rags on #12 for making a serious vote, which, if your vote was a joke vote, it wasn’t really a bandwagon; we have to transition out of RVS phase somehow.

Not huge scum vibes, just too abrasive to be the most likely townie supporter.

#2 Gumball the Queen

Not a lot to say. Has pretty similar opinions to mine it seems so I’m inclined to believe she’s town. Couldn’t find much significant either way though. 8/10.

#3 Gumball the Creepy

RIP

#4 Gumball the Wise (poisn)

How serious were we supposed to take Wise’s first vote? #8 asking player #6’s role was very in line with all there are other posts in the initial span of the game, so I feel like that vote was a little too early for it to be justified. Seems like a scum thing to start drama that early.

I'm sure they do, but you're not going to learn anything about mafia because they will lie and if you learn something good about a player its risking mafia killing them at night. So there's no point.

I’m trying to think on this post, is it more scum to insert the idea out there that it’s not worthwhile to prod people’s descriptors (ie. so they don’t have to bluff in an obvious way if there name role connection is prodded), or more townie to point out that, like their role, the connection is vague and isn’t something that is worthwhile investigating. Part of me feels the latter hold true, in that it’s not worthwhile deciphering names, but the possibility that by prodding someone they end up admitting a fake role that gets them caught is still there, which makes me feel more sold the blatant brush off is scumtell.

Why should it matter who is who? Alignment won't be related to identities.

I know this isn’t her outright saying it, but the fact that the poisoner is saying that roles don’t have anything to do with alignment, and therefore that her alignment isn’t a third party (poisoner), makes me feel more sold that there are only town and mafia (sans maybe SK or some miscellaneous role). Sorry if this was obvious and other people realized that I’m still catching up.

Overall like a 3/10? Idk maybe too generous but the possibility of there being multiple poisoner roles confuses me.

#5 Gumball the Nice (inno)

Not much to say here. Inno and inactive lel (it’s only joke ily). 10/10.

#6 Gumball the Deflective

Seems way to active to be scum, but also just someone who gets heavily invested in general. Tentative about voting so it's hard to pin them either way for bandwagons. Wants our lynch candidates but hasn't supported one herself yet. Amiable in general. Too active to be a good lynch candidate, but annoyingly tame in opinion to be so boldly to be asking for the most.

7/10

#7 Gumball the Fierce

Jumped the gun on protecting #6 when they thought role was positive. Didn’t even reply to the prior discussion of role to name importance. Appears overly defensive. More from a general feel I would say 4/10.

#8 Gumball the Ballin

No matter what the fact that she remained serious about asking for mafia claims is weird but is it really scummy? Also, I hate reading through her posts because it’s hard to take them seriously with nya at the end of each one. Too antsy is the best thing I feel I can say about her. 6/10 not a real suspect. Hard to say now since player switched though lol

#9 Gumball the High

Slight suspicions about her saying roles and names aren’t related. Not too abrupt about it though and seems technically for the most part true since the roles aren’t thinned enough and relation isn’t clear enough yet for us to make any realistic guesses, but eventually I feel we might be able to make some deductive reasoning (the question I have is how murdering roles will look when dead; aren’t some roles like innocent child just inherently town or mafia?). 6/9 not a lot to go off of.

#10 Gumball the Fashionable

Already talked about em’ a bit. Feel like we have at least some kind of lead through Wise so it could be good to follow through. Still only a chance that Wise was scum so I’d rather not just kill them off of second degree guilt just yet. 5/10.

#11 Gumball the Wolverine

Mostly townie vibes. Stood up for #8 trying to figure out roles which I think is a better take than others. 7/10.

#12 Gumball the Ecstatic

Super indeterminate about #12. None of what they said was all that weird reasoning wise honestly. Interesting interaction between #7 and #12 with how at odds they were suddenly. Feel they are for sure of opposite alignments. Current read would be 7/10 since I think fierce is more likely the scum of the two. Need to read more of their posts though.

#13 Gumball the Animaeus

Qt

#14 Gumball the Slightly Disappointed (fake poisn)

Honestly no idea 5/10.



These are my thoughts from a quicker read through (skimmed through a lot of the later pages). Not very structured or concrete just my general thoughts. I’ll respond to stuff but I probably won’t re-read thread again until late at night because I am once again dead and I need rest, but I do feel like I’m slowly getting a better understanding of player behavior.

Man is reading hard though. Read ratings are really spur of the moment so don’t take them too seriously. Need to re-read and spend some thonking time on how past behavior seems relative to each other for better rankings.

I have a weird suspicion of #7 but I don’t have any real pressure material so I wouldn’t vote her. Fashionable seems like an okay option given the evidence we have? But I’m still not all that sure about her or others enough yet to decry anyone for sure.

 

[Player 5]

Player 10's reasoning for causing the kitb is incredibly flimsy, but I don't know it tying up the votes in that scenario would have been a good move for scum (assuming wise was scum). With no flips, it almost seems like defending Wise would have made more sense from a scum perspective. But it also feels like Player 10 is making it up as they go along so I'm not too sure how to feel about that slot. I want to believe they're town, but they are looking scummy for sure.

 

[Player 6]

I could be identified yeh but you've have to have a very large brain lmao.

I keep coming back to this and wondering if very large brain equates with very long memory

I actually thought of someone who could be you that is definitely wrong but just the fact that I thought of someone who loosely fits makes me feel a little better somehow

Not a lot to say. Has pretty similar opinions to mine it seems so I’m inclined to believe she’s town. Couldn’t find much significant either way though. 8/10.

The highest score on the list (besides IC) and thats youre only reasoning?

know this isn’t her outright saying it, but the fact that the poisoner is saying that roles don’t have anything to do with alignment, and therefore that her alignment isn’t a third party (poisoner),

Maybe I'm dumb but I dont see what that has to do with third party at all?

Seems way to active to be scum, but also just someone who gets heavily invested in general. Tentative about voting so it's hard to pin them either way for bandwagons. Wants our lynch candidates but hasn't supported one herself yet. Amiable in general. Too active to be a good lynch candidate, but annoyingly tame in opinion to be so boldly to be asking for the most.

The bolded is, coincidentally, a very bold statement to make if youre not familiar with my meta. (activity is utterly irrelevant to reading me)

And this seems to be coming up a lot lately and it gets on my nerves. When I play somewhere new I am not inclined to vote hastily, because I like to make informed decisions. I dont like making calls without having some kind of risk factor probability machine going off in my head. To get to where I need to be I need some amount of meta or I'm blind as a bet. I got run over with a truck for spending like 90 out of 106 hours of a game day without seriously voting because the game was bloody insanely active and I was trying to get a grasp on my thoughts as well as all these new people I'd never met. So yeah I'm going to be a bit more cautious.

Now for all that I do feel like I know who I want to Lynch or at least the general group I'd like to pick from but I'd like to hear from some better halves what they think and also I was waiting on @Player 11 to get back to me with that reads list before I got off him

AND ANOTHER THING I was seriously voting Wise yesterday. I think. I cant actually remember when I decided to vote him the first time but I only unvoted cause 12 was being annoying, I wouldve put it back later if necessary. I would not say that I have been all that tentative though I would say moreso than usual since the nature of this game makes it more difficult to call people out.

While we're on that point this is sort of a reads list yes but I'd like a more ranked list and yes I am going to boldly ask for more information from everyone because that is how I formulate my own reads so if you could be more forthcoming that would be nice also you've yet to comment on my own reads except to say you were disappointed that I listed you as possibly scum. Idrk how much less tame I can get but I guess we goin find out

 

[Player 6]

Player 10's reasoning for causing the kitb is incredibly flimsy, but I don't know it tying up the votes in that scenario would have been a good move for scum (assuming wise was scum). With no flips, it almost seems like defending Wise would have made more sense from a scum perspective. But it also feels like Player 10 is making it up as they go along so I'm not too sure how to feel about that slot. I want to believe they're town, but they are looking scummy for sure.

Hi while youre here lets talk about who you want to lynch today and maybe give some reads? : ))))))

 

[Player 7]

Favorite Color is orange. Ace Attorney games are super fun but time consuming so I've only played 2 of em'.

I see what you did there