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List of Theories on the Figure from the Trailer

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i think he's a dark interloper. but i think the term dark interloper means anyone who uses dark magic. i mean what if the dark interlopers were a group of people from different races that use dark magic. i say this because this guy has a lot in common with other characters. his feature are the same as vaati but vaati has purple skin and purple hair. this guy has white skin and white hair. the sheikah have white hair and white skin but have red eyes like vaati. this guy has the same type of attitude as midina and can teleport like her too. but they look nothing a like except part of her skin is white. what if vaati was a dark interloper? what if the sheikah were dark interlopers? what if the gerudo were too? vaati could have escaped backed to his homeland while the rest of them were sent to the twilight realm. and the gerudo could have escaped to the desert to avoid being sent to the twilight realm.
 
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Oldewindmill

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In my opinion the claim that it could not be Vaati because Minish cap outlined Vaati's entire lifetime is ridiculous; Link, Zelda, Impa, and possibly Ganon/Ganondorf too may be reincarnated between games (When I say "between games" I'm talking in terms of chronological release, not in the series' chronology). So why not Vaati?
I'm not saying that this mystery person IS Vaati (I personally think it's either the gilded sword or someone new), I'm saying that the possibility should not be cast aside.

Speaking of the gilded sword...
Once again, motifs are often reused in Zelda games, regardless of timeline placement. I don't see why the gilded sword should be so different. Besides, In Majora's Mask, the sword maker obviously knows how to make gilded swords, which would imply that other gilded swords that he had made had existed before that, or swords made by other smiths before. It may also be possible.
And I don't think that the possibility should be discounted completely that multiple theories might be true. For example, the playing card thing might fit together quite well with the sword-incarnation theory. :)
 

dadude1200

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i reckon it will be somthing we wont expect!
it better be or theres gonna be PAIN!
 
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I think I have a theory he is a joker from a deck of cards!!!! or a clown an evil clown, or just a joker! XD He looks like a clown! and also a joker from a deck of cards! :S I am so excited to find out what he is! I hope he is funny! Also please be somebody we do not know!
 

Zemen

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The ONLY way that he could be Vaati is if SS takes place AFTER MC on the timeline. In MC, Vaati's BS shows him as a Picori and an apprentice to Ezlo, another Picori. It's not until he receives the wish granting hat that he becomes a Hylian sized being and gains his powers. It's pretty clear from this game that this character is a Hylian sized being and has powers, thus the only way it could be Vaati is if the game takes place after MC, when Vaati gained his powers and stature.

As for your response, Oldewindmill, when Zelda, Link and Ganondorf are reincarnated they are reincarnated to bodies that look pretty much exactly the same as their previous bodies. This is a debate where the only resemblances are pale skin and a cloak. Not to mention that every previous reincarnation you mentioned, the characters were reincarnated into the same race, whereas if this is a reincarnation of Vaati, he is clearly not a Minish anymore (or didn't start out as one if SS is first), but that's just too complicated of an idea to really hold any thought into.

Occam's Razor tells us that the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions is generally the right hypothesis. In order for it to be Vaati you have to assume reincarnation, some sort of powers gained other than the magic hat from MC, take into consideration that he doesn't really look like Vaati (so reintroduce reincarnation), and come up with a ton of other theories based off of a trailer. The argument for him not being Vaati is everything having to do with MC (which aren't assumptions, they are canon) and take into consideration the fact that he doesn't look much like Vaati (also not an assumption, but more factual). Based on Occam's Razor, chances are it's not Vaati.

Of course, the game could come out and I could be wrong, but all evidence points to a new bad guy.
 

00steven

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I don't know what it is but I think we can assume it plays a major part in the game, otherwise Nintendo wouldn't put it in the trailer.
 

Ganondork

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I think (s)he is one of two things:
1. The main antagonist
2. The sword spirit of the main antagonist
I believe somebody already mentioned number 2, but I had made up my mind already with number 1 until I read their input. It makes so much sense that it's uncanny. I dismiss anything involving Vaati and the guilded sword, this is years and years prior to the MC or MM. As for a Sheikah, Zelda's caretaker in OoT (who's name escapes me right now) was a Sheikah, but in my opinion didn't look very much alike. As for it being a she, who knows? Nintendo can turn around and say that Kaepora Gaebora (or however his name is spelled) isn't actually an owl, but just some rip off of an owl. Why? Because they can do whatever they want! It's their story, not ours and as a result they can say whatever about Zelda. Hell, they could turn around and say all of these events are in the future not the past, and we can't do anything about it!
 

JamesBond007

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There are multiple theories about this dude, but I found another one - the Gilded Guy is Agahnim, but without his red robe.

SS Agahnim.jpg

Using Twilight Princess rule, maybe he will be the antagonist in the game until we see the real final boss - Ganon with the Trident. Could Skyward Sword be the Imprisoning War, which takes place between FSA and ALttP?
 

JuicieJ

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A few of these I've never heard of, and I don't understand where they're coming from. Namely the "card playing" one. What the heck is that, anyway? ..........

Anyway, there are multiple accounts of why he can't be many of these things, most of which can be tossed aside by common logic. But I'm going to focus on the biggest ones. Guilded Sword, "sword girl," Vaati, and also give evidence as to why he could be a "dark interloper."

I'll start off with the Guilded Sword idea. This one's easy to disprove. The Guilded Sword was in Majora's Mask as an upgrade for the Kokiri Sword, and an optional upgrade at that. That just throws that out the window right there. But, some people suggest that it may be some kind of ancestor, or something. .............Think about that. That would suggest that the Guilded Sword is actually important to the series and that somehow swords can have descendants. ........(Yeah.) Some people suggest that there could be a new "spirit sword" race, but, come on. Really? That's just rediculous and would be overkill. I can't necessarily disprove that theory, but it's just common sense there. Anyway, "Guilded" means "gold covered," hence the name of the sword, as it was constructed in Majora's Mask from gold dust. The fact that it was constructed in Majora's Mask and was optional upgrade means that the Guilded Sword not have had any "ancestor." Now, I know he has the same pattern of the Guilded Sword on his cloak, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I think it's definately possible that Nintendo took the idea of the incarnation of the "sword girl" being the humanoid form of the Master/Skyward Sword and did that, but there's really nothing else to suggest it other than that. And that's a very weak argument, especially when held to the evidence I provided against it.

Next is the "sword girl." Ok, I don't get this one at all. I mean, the "pale figure" looks nothing like her (or whatever "she" is). Plus, the "sword girl" has numerous characteristics of the Master Sword, as she is the embodiment of it. (Which actually means that she isn't a spirit in the sword, she is the sword. She transforms back and forth.) Here's a comparison picture of the features on the Master Sword and the "sword girl" (as I've posted many times before):
1zfpo5g.jpg(The cloak and the wing-like handles are the same, too.)

Now, some people may say to this, "You just threw aside the likeness of the Guilded Sword earlier. Why use this as evidence?" Well, as I said, that was one characteristic and it wasn't significant. What's different about these is that, well, there's more, and they're accurate to the positions on the sword. It was just the cloak on the "pale figure." With these characteristics, there's no way they'd change the figure up that much. Beyond all that, do you think Nintendo make the "pale figure" disappear like he did if he were just a redesign of the sword? No. Surely they wouldn't. And why would the Skyward Sword attack Link by controlling that giant golden statue? I don't see why that would happen, either.
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The third and one of the top three most-considered ideas is Vaati. This one I really hate and love to shoot it down. It's a surprisingly popular idea in the fact that it's so obviously not possible. There are numerous reasons as to why he can't be Vaati, and I'm going to name all of them. However, I'll discuss the "similarities" in their appearances. Ok, yes, both this guy and Vaati have pale skin and long ears. But that's basically it. The hair I can see, but that's a slight stretch. I mean, part of Vaati was him having one eye covered. Anyway, there are actually plenty of aspects about them to argue that they don't look the same. Ok, one, the outfit. Vaati had a purple robe. This guy doesn't by any means. Yes, Link, Zelda and Ganondorf got redesigns in Twilight Princess, but they weren't this significant. Also, Vaati was much shorter than this guy appears to be. Vaati was only slightly taller than Link in The Minish Cap, which isn't very tall. And speaking of size, Vaati was also a Picori. And Vaati later went all freaky, one-eyed bat-like thing on us. That in itself makes it impossible for this new character to be Vaati. But, if you need more evidence, I've got it right here. Vaati only had that human-like form due to the Minish Cap. Really, that's the only piece of evidence needed. This guy doesn't have a hat of any kind. If that's so, how could he be Vaati? He can't. That's 100% fact. No opinion or skepticism in this argument.

Now, that basically leaves two options: a "dark interloper" or something completely new. I consider both of these options equally possible. However, I’m 99.99999...% on the “dark interloper” side. (I can’t say 100% because it hasn’t been confirmed.) I say this because of the evidence we’re given to support it. And here’s the thing: there’s nothing to contradict it. I’ll prove it. We know that the “dark interlopers” were part of a war for the Sacred Realm. Some people would say, “Well, that’s the war in Ocarina of Time’s back-story. The “Unifying War.” I say otherwise. Yes, the “Unifying War” was over gaining access to the Sacred Realm and the power held within it, just like the war mentioned by Lanayru in Twilight Princess. However, the Temple of Time had already been constructed before the “Unifying War.” Proof? Well, there’s a little story in Ocarina of Time that tells of a boy who’s mother was mortally wounded. This boy’s mother took him to the Great Deku Tree Kokiri Forest out of desperation. We know this child to be the Link of Ocarina of Time. Unless that Link lived a veeeeeeery long time and stayed a baby during it, the “Unifying War” has to be right before the events of Ocarina of Time.

Now, more about the Temple of Time itself. Rauru said, “We ancient Sages built the Temple of Time…” Ancient Sages. That means that the Temple of Time was built in ancient times, long before Ocarina of Time. Plus, we know that in the war mentioned in Twilight Princess, the Sacred Realm was open to where it could be accessed by anyone. The Temple of Time was built as a defense for the Sacred Realm with the Master Sword as the final barrier, as well as the key to opening the Sacred Realm itself. All that said, the “Unifying War” and the war in Twilight Princess’s back-story can’t be one-in-the-same. This leaves a perfect spot for the “dark interlopers” to come about in Skyward Sword, as it’s set before Ocarina of Time. And, with the “army of evil” mentioned and the fact that Skyloft is part of Hyrule, the war mentioned in Twilight Princess has a strong possibility of being in Skyward Sword’s back-story, if not still going on in-game. The “dark interlopers” being sealed at the end of the game would work perfectly, as well. Saying that, --kind of off topic, but it ties in -- what better time for the Temple of Time to be constructed than after the events of Skyward Sword? And wouldn’t it make sense for the Skyward Sword to become the Master Sword at that point? While that’s just speculation, it’s a good prediction. This is why I say that the “pale figure” is a “dark interloper,” if not their leader. Now, yes, I did say that I think it’s equally possible for the “pale figure” to be something entirely new, but that’s only because we don’t know what or who he is yet. All that said, there's really no possibility for this "pale figure" to be anything but a "dark interloper" or something entirely new. That's what I got.
 
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jack546

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Blue Guy in Trailer

When the blue guy teleports (like a twili can) he kind of does what midna does he breaks down and disapears and scince the game will have cartoon like animation the dark blue could be the black of tp.What do you think about this theory?
 

PhantomTriforce

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First off, the way this question is phrased is, it is very hard to understand what you're trying to say.

But what you are saying could very well be true. Many people have theorized that the "Blue Guy" is actually a member of the Dark Tribe. The Twili could be the Dark Tribe members who were banned from Hyrule, and were therefore sealed in the Twilight Realm, so it makes that they have similar abilities and characteristics.

And one more thing, I (and many more) don't think he's actually vanishing or disappearing in the trailer, but rather going into and possessing the large Golden Statue in the room.
 

JuicieJ

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First off, the way this question is phrased is, it is very hard to understand what you're trying to say.

But what you are saying could very well be true. Many people have theorized that the "Blue Guy" is actually a member of the Dark Tribe. The Twili could be the Dark Tribe members who were banned from Hyrule, and were therefore sealed in the Twilight Realm, so it makes that they have similar abilities and characteristics.

As of now, I don't consider the Dark Tribe the "dark interlopers," as we don't know yet. I definitely think it's possible, but we don't know for sure, and there is evidence to contradict it.

And one more thing, I (and many more) don't think he's actually vanishing or disappearing in the trailer, but rather going into and possessing the large Golden Statue in the room.

Ummm...seriously? I mean, I'm not saying you're stupid, or anything, but he was obviously disappearing. Besides, that seems obvious to me that that sequence wasn't actual gameplay, but a teaser of sorts to make us wonder about him. My question is to you, how could you not think he's teleporting/disappearing? I mean, he does it in the exact same way Zant does. Thin out and leave a trail of blocks behind.
 
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Neon

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I really dont know who the guy is but why does everybody speculating that he is a villian?
I mean for all we know this character could be a good guy that could play the role of the owl in Ocarina of Time.
We are really not going to know till either E3 or till we all get hands on the game and play it.
 

Yuuki

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my theory is that he is from the twilight realm. Thats just me :| but he or she could be something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! I doubt its the guilded sword as it was created in a whole different reality which predates majoras mask.
 

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