It was accepted until I came back and started saying you were all wrong
Not that Ollathir wasn't doing that already lol
Ollathir believed in almost the exact same thing, but that the games with no story took place after LttP instead of the beginning of the AT.
I believe there is a quote in FSA that implies Yami no Maou is a title only granted to the bearer of the trident of power...
It does not say "only granted". It just says "You are the King of Darkness".
Because they didn't know what it takes to be an YnM, and they definitely didn't know Ganon existed...
It can take anything to be a Yami no Maou. OoX was a Yami no Maou but was referred to as a Daimaou throughout the whole game. He just said "I am the King of Darkness" and then died.
Clearly he can call himself whatever he wants.
Because of that quote from FSA...
All that quote from FSA says is that the trident holder is the King of Darkness. It doesn't say that the King of Darkness can ONLY appear if he has the trident.
Uhmm just take a look at the games. How many Daimaous are there in OoT? Or LoZ? Or OoX?
There aren't any other Daimaous to refer to.
what I meant was: there can easily be two Maous that are considered "big", the same way there can be two kings that are considered "high", but there can't be two "Kings of Engand", the same way there cannot be two "Maous of Darkness"... Unless, of course, there are two tridents...
Except there are NEVER two Daimaous at the same time. There will NEVER be two Daimaous at the same time in Zelda.
Why?
Because Daimaou ONLY EVER refers to the current enemy (in this debate, Ganon). It's just as generic as Yami no Maou because they both refer to the same thing EVERY TIME.
It doesn't matter what it could refer to if there was more than one, it matters what it ALWAYS refers to because there is always only one at a time. It ALWAYS refers to the current enemy, Ganon. Thus it is just as generic as any other exclusive title.
If there is an "Emporer (sp?) of the World" then Emporer, The Emporer, Awesome Emporer, The Great Emporer, The Uber Emporer, etc would ALL refer to the same thing and they wouldn't be generic.
If you ignore FSA completely...
I'm not ignoring FSA. You're taking FSA out of context and adding to it.
It says that the holder of the trident is the King of Darkness. It NEVER says that the ONLY POSSIBLE WAY to be the King of Darkness is to hold the trident.
He doesn't have the trident in LoZ.
Then you ignore the most recent intent.
As for OoX, the only thing that you have to understand is that Ganon is a Maou, a big Maou... But he is also the Maou of Darkness...
It never calls OoX Ganon "A Daimaou" lol. It ALWAYS calls him "The Daimaou" because there is ALWAYS only one, so calling him a "generic" title wouldn't confuse anyone and would clearly refer to the same thing.
Artwork released with LoZ in 1986 showed Ganon with no trident.
Artwork released with LttP in 1991 showed Ganon with a trident.
Artwork released with LA in 1993 showed Ganon with no trident.
LA calls LttP Ganon with the Trident King of Evil.
So I guess he lost his powers over darkness and is now just controlling Evil, amirite?
So, if you are going for most recent intent shown in artwork, Ganon has no trident...
Good thing BS LoZ came out 5 years after LA.
As for BSLoZ, you might have a point. But I still don't think the trident was ever important to the storyline as a whole before OoX and FSA
OoX and FSA? I think you mean just FSA, right? Because it has NO storyline importance in OoX considering in half of his sprites he's not actually holding the trident...
imo, they added the trident to OoX to imply a connection to LttP (Ganon died with the trident in LttP, was ressurected with the trident in OoX); and added it in FSA just so they could give LttP's Ganon a new backstory.
Then why did OoX connect so much better than with LoZ, and why did it fix a plothole in the OFFICIAL timeline if it went after LoZ?
The intent was for LoZ Ganon to have the trident.
It is not a remake. It's a new game, with new characters, a new map and a new storyline, loosely based on the stories of LoZ and LttP...
Of course it was a new game. It came out like 11 years after. LoZ had almost no characters anyways and was rather dull. The map was the exact same, just higher quality. LoZ had no storyline lol. "Oh noes Ganon stole the Triforce of Power and stole the princess. Go kill him, hero" compared to "A long time ago a theif stole the Triforce and became Ganon then got sealed by the Seven Sages in what is called the Seal War. Now he has stolen Princess Zelda. Go kill him, hero".
It's the same story, just more detailed and connected to LttP via the SW.
@Zemen: I doubt either means much, but they both would have the same value because they mean the same thing.
@Pinecove: FSA NEVER says that the only way to be Yami no Maou is to hold the trident. It does say that the holder of the trident is the Yami no Maou. But that is as fallacious as saying the only way to become a Maou is to touch the Triforce because Ganondorf in OoT touched the Triforce and became the Maou.
Also because you believe that holding the trident is the only way to be Yami no Maou, then throughout most of the fight with Ganon in OoX he is a Daimaou, then suddenly becomes Yami no Maou whenever he attacks with the trident, amirite?
