Super Smash Mafia 2: Originals vs Clones - Game Thread

[Johnny Sooshi]

Um, ok?

I don't know. From this conversation I'm getting that Cthu is just a confused townie. Any thoughts?

That's what I'm seeing too. He's a bit behind and looks like he caught up in a hurry and isn't following well. But I'm not feeling scum vibes.

Also, I'm still confused about Johnny. I guess for now we have to accept that Bryant was role blocked. Although, Johnny's damage seems to match Bryant's parameters. Could there be a misdirector or a bus driver kind of role?

That's something I didn't think of but that's possible too.

 

[Eduarda]

@Pendio @The Hero of Legend anything to say?

 

[LittleGumball]

If you can get to it at some point, I'd like to know why. I'm interested.

probably just because i'm just suspicious of him lol

it just doesn't make sense to me to blindly trust someone who is third party, without letting the person getting accused defend himself. It's one thing to trust a cop, it's another to trust THIRD PARTY. Not even a probable townie - she's third party. I don't care if she says she's helping the town, 3rd party is unreliable, whether in role or in actions.

I already explained why right below that quote. It's just speculation but I don't think Doc being as experienced of a player would jump on board without thinking, as Mafia.

sorry. i mass quoted as i read (just like i did again =^) ) so I just picked out what I wanted to respond to and typed the post after so it's probable that i'll miss something

A lot of people were claiming so

oic

and how do you know that? you a spy there? Are there even any spies?

wtf is this post

I like the way Cthu is acting.

lmfao really?

still unsure which day we are on

wtf is this how can you pay so little attention

why are you playing if you're not going to pay attention (this also goes for pendio and viral who barely meet the post quota of ONE)

I don't know. From this conversation I'm getting that Cthu is just a confused townie. Any thoughts?

same, no mafia would ever play like that

 

[Eduarda]

It's one thing to trust a cop, it's another to trust THIRD PARTY. Not even a probable townie - she's third party. I don't care if she says she's helping the town, 3rd party is unreliable, whether in role or in actions.

Note to self: Never claim third party again . No one will like you

lmfao really?

I said that because his posts didn't ring as Mafia to me. He seemed really lost. I would assume the Mafia QT would help him get a run down of what's happening but he seems to have very little idea of what's going on.

 

[Eduarda]

@Doc since the whole Johnny mishap, you've not contributed to the conversation at all. All you've done is defend yourself. Have you nothing else to say at all? Makes me wonder if letting you go is a good idea

 

[Johnny Sooshi]

it just doesn't make sense to me to blindly trust someone who is third party, without letting the person getting accused defend himself. It's one thing to trust a cop, it's another to trust THIRD PARTY. Not even a probable townie - she's third party. I don't care if she says she's helping the town, 3rd party is unreliable, whether in role or in actions.

And that's fair too. I'm wary because she could win with either team, but it's easier to win with town, so I'm trusting her rn.

 

[DekuNut]

All right, home now. I'll read up on what I missed when I can.

 

[LittleGumball]

And that's fair too. I'm wary because she could win with either team, but it's easier to win with town, so I'm trusting her rn.

i mean it's not like i don't trust her

There is exactly one person I trust as 3rd party and that's Eduarda. I wouldn't even trust myself. But despite that, Doc took the word of someone whose alignment is guaranteed not to be town. That's pretty ridiculous to me. Especially since we don't even know what her role exactly is. All we know is it's reflexive - don't touch her and you won't get hurt. That's not exactly a role I would trust. Again it's not like she's a cop.

 

[Eduarda]

I texted Sadia and she said she'll be home in about 1 and a half hours. But that's 12:30am for us so we might only see her tomorrow.

@Doc @Pendio @The Hero of Legend @Heroine of Time @Libk @Toxic_Snowman
Apart from Sadia, is there anyone else who you would like to see knocked out?

Also wanted to show this because it's beautiful

 

[Doc]

((My bad, I had some of a post written out when you first asked me, but then my sister is visiting so I was busy with her. Here's what my initial post that I meant to have ready))

@Doc but do you have anything else to say on what's been going on so far?

((My bad, I had some of a post written out when you first asked me, but then my sister is visiting so I was busy with her. Here's what my initial post that I meant to have ready))

So, I haven't been paying much attention to Toxic and will definitely try to reread through and look at him, but I was focusing on the two people who are damaged within your parameters, Sadia and Cthulhu. Cthulhu has outright said that he did not visit you and based on Sadia's post about Johnny, I imagine she would have mentioned if she visited you, if she were town.

Cthulhu, as you pointed out yesterday, Eduarda, made only one post about ALIT (that I found, and didn't see much more than this).

TLR Eduarda's skimming targets and can't seem to make up her mind.
Alit cocked up by mistaking original which is a town title for a job description and now everyone is calling scummyness.

RIGHT, now that i've TLDR'd JC i think the choice of target is honestly stupid yes ALIT made a Mistake but hell i didn't look at the last game of this type just so i could enjoy playing this without worrying about prior motives and the ilk. It could've been an honest mistake and i'm inclined currently CURRENTLY to believe it. (though the fact it's in green should've told you.....)

@Eduarda worries me. Why the shifting of focus? as someone else said why didn't you focus on Heroine? why the shifts in tactics? Makes me wonder whether you are leading conversation towards an unfair choice on a townie or if you are just trying to keep it all going. Kinda not sure.

Either way i don't feel comfortable attacking anyone. Why should I as far as i can see no one has an ulterior motive. HOWEVER, i'd say if we SHOULD, and bear in mind this is if no other choice presents itself, go for one of the inactives, from what i've seen they are mostly playing catchup constantly.

In this post, he essentially says that all suspicion against ALIT is ridiculous, mentions his suspicion against Eduarda, and then suggests an inactive lynch. I know that the basis on ALIT's lynch wasn't the strongest, but to suggest that there is nothing suspicious about his slip-up rubs me the wrong way.
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((What I had written earlier))
Now, based off of his recent activity, I'm still not feeling good about Cthulhu. That may be because I can barely understand a lot of what he's saying, but its causing me quite a bit of confusion. I also find it suspicious that it wasn't until this came up that he began posting a lot more frequently. I don't know if this is common to him, but it still makes me suspicious.


Now Sadia didn't say much about ALIT yesterday, probably as much as the next person. She said she'd vote ALIT come the deadline. But I did notice Sadia was grasping at straws a bit, such as suggesting that HoL and Regal may be scumbuds because they both were against spreading damage. Her post about Johnny struck me as scummy as well, especially asking for permission to attack. But someone already talked about that, so I dont want to be redundant.

Honestly, I'd be okay with either of these two for today. I'm leaning towards Cthulhu, but I'm gonna wait to see what Sadia has to say about this situation to finally make a decision on who I think is a better choice.

 

[Doc]

i mean it's not like i don't trust her

There is exactly one person I trust as 3rd party and that's Eduarda. I wouldn't even trust myself. But despite that, Doc took the word of someone whose alignment is guaranteed not to be town. That's pretty ridiculous to me. Especially since we don't even know what her role exactly is. All we know is it's reflexive - don't touch her and you won't get hurt. That's not exactly a role I would trust. Again it's not like she's a cop.

Like I said, the only reason I can imagine a third party coming forward is to gain town credit and help get rid of scum. There was no reason for Eduarda to reveal herself at that point of time, I'd say the majority of people (if not everyone) was convinced she was town. If Eduarda revealed that she was third party, and Johnny flipped town, that would only hurt her and cause many people to attack her. But if she successfully KO'd scum, town would trust her more and keep her around longer. So why reveal unless she actually found scum?

 

[Eduarda]

So, I haven't been paying much attention to Toxic and will definitely try to reread through and look at him, but I was focusing on the two people who are damaged within your parameters, Sadia and Cthulhu. Cthulhu has outright said that he did not visit you and based on Sadia's post about Johnny, I imagine she would have mentioned if she visited you, if she were town.

Good points. Someone's hiding something or lying.

Cthulhu, as you pointed out yesterday, Eduarda, made only one post about ALIT (that I found, and didn't see much more than this).

In this post, he essentially says that all suspicion against ALIT is ridiculous, mentions his suspicion against Eduarda, and then suggests an inactive lynch. I know that the basis on ALIT's lynch wasn't the strongest, but to suggest that there is nothing suspicious about his slip-up rubs me the wrong way.

Bringing this post up again sure does make it seem really scummy. It's really hard to tell with Cthu tbh. But I do feel more safer lynching Sadia than Cthu. I know she's a good player and there isn't much against her apart from like 3 things but I feel the evidence against her points more towards scum than the evidence against Cthu does. For him it seems like a newbie. And even gives off a vibe that he's flowing through the game and isn't as careful or attentive. Not a play that Mafia would like to have.

Now, based off of his recent activity, I'm still not feeling good about Cthulhu. That may be because I can barely understand a lot of what he's saying, but its causing me quite a bit of confusion. I also find it suspicious that it wasn't until this came up that he began posting a lot more frequently. I don't know if this is common to him, but it still makes me suspicious.

This is a good point. That burst of posts was just me catching him and holding on to him for a while though. If I didn't prompt him he would have disappeared again.

But I did notice Sadia was grasping at straws a bit, such as suggesting that HoL and Regal may be scumbuds because they both were against spreading damage.

I actually thought it was a smart point. Ben had basically echoed Bryant. Putting that as one of his points is fine but both their posts contained one topic and it was worded in such a similar way. Any reason you think this is grasping at straws? She just pointed something out but didn't push for a lynch.

Her post about Johnny struck me as scummy as well, especially asking for permission to attack. But someone already talked about that, so I dont want to be redundant.

You posted twice between the time where Jamie restarted the day and when I brought up that Sadia asked permission to vote. Why didn't you bring it up at that time if you noticed it beforehand.

 

[Doc]

You posted twice between the time where Jamie restarted the day and when I brought up that Sadia asked permission to vote. Why didn't you bring it up at that time if you noticed it beforehand.

I didn't notice it at first, because at the time, I thought Johnny was scum. And didn't reread it until I was cycling through Sadia's posts, which I did at my computer much later because it is more effective than my phone. Flipping through pages is a pain on mobile. The posts I made in defense of myself were from my phone.

 

[Eduarda]

Can I just come in and say this?

Doc's post doesn't look good. At all. He throws in flimsy excuses to say that Sadia's also suspicious while not adding anything himself, but then goes and tries to convince us to vote for Cthu.

I think if Sadia flips scum, Doc would be a fantastic knock out candidate.

 

[Eduarda]

@Frozen Chosen

What do you think of Doc's response