Mikey the Moblin
if I had a nickel for every time I ran out of spac
Maybe next time vomit your passions over a thread without insulting my friends ok?Damn straight,
Maybe next time vomit your passions over a thread without insulting my friends ok?Damn straight,
Which is against her character, because Link is the only man Nintendo has ever hinted Zelda has romantic feelings for.
Ninty doesn't care and neither should you.
Next time they'll introduce half a dozen needless concepts, most of which will be just as inane, that will contradict the whole thing even further and make it clear that ninty's forgotten about the whole thing entirely.
My best guess to explain it all is that the incarnation stuff isn't affected by bloodline but rather by divine right. So basically, if you're princess you have divine right to be and therefore Hylia is with you or some such. This baseless grasping-at-straws theory pulls heredity as a factor out of the issue entirely and greatly simplfies the matter.
Is Link's incarnation affected by common ancestry? It's established that Link is the descendant of Hylian knights, so perhaps there is.
Wow you seem pretty enthusiastic about this singular topic
Um, y--yes it is. Childbirth. We've been doing it for literally ever.
I'm not explaining childbirth, or correcting your beliefs. You are perfectly entitled to your beliefs, I fully respect them, and I admit that I will never know as much about childbirth as you do. Sorry that I was so callous in my comments, I should have considered your gender before engaging in a discussion with you. My bad. Will do better.Yes, mansplain to me, a woman, about childbirth and having children, something you, as a "man" (you aren't) will never experience or be able to do. And keep using your gross sexism and misogyny as an "argument" to try to force a female character to pop out kids for all eternity because you're obsessed with her bloodline being in everything with an XX chromosome. You can also use that sexism and misogyny to try to shut women like me up from being outraged about out favorite female characters being exploited. You and the "men" like you will no doubt get enraged by my passionate rant of women's liberty, real or fictional but deal with it. It's the future.![]()
Also, mansplain to me evolution when you actually crack open a book about one, and mansplain to me about the meaning of life when you actually go get a woman impregnated.Because even if you do both, you're still wrong about women's purpose being babymakers for all eternity on the sick wants and ideas of "men" like you.
Another incredibly fair point.I never have this problem with other women and fangirls discussing my thoughts and grievances about a real and legitimate problem in the Zelda series. It's always "men" (real men aren't afraid of hearing women talk and knowing problems where they exist) who try to shut me up regarding feminist and scientific critique on things that need it, which of course, shows how fragile, cowardly, and ignorant they are. And like I said, they're all gonna lose at the end when Nintendo catches up with the times.
It won't go on forever if you stop talking about it.All right, I mean it this time since there's nothing further to discuss with the idiots on this thread: //END POST!!// (Truth-speaking will go on forever, though!!!)
"Eternally reborn." Not reincarnated. Reborn. Born again. Renaissance. I'm taking it literally, sue me. If you have the specific quote in the Encyclopedia, please let me know because I cannot find it.
Legend of Zelda is about the spirit of a long-deceased hero eternally bound to a family line of Goddess-descended women who are cursed by the ancient evil they are eternally destined to fight against. It's...basically the same, except it's a matriarchy, not a soul reincarnate.
I think you misunderstand. All of your references to Zelda being a Hylia are true, seeing as they're from Skyward Sword. That was the very first Zelda, a literal reincarnation of the goddess Hylia. All of the Zeldas in future games are ancestors of that first Zelda, part of her bloodline. So they all literally carry the blood of the goddess, they're not continuous reincarnations.Zelda is getting her power from being the incarnation of Hylia; not the descendant.
This renders the bloodline thing completely pointless. If almost everyone in Hyrule has Hylia's blood (which is what will eventually happen if Zelda chooses to have kids during the course of her eternal reincarnations) then the only way for Zelda to remain the only one with 100% the blood of the goddess is to be the goddess's reincarnation.
"Blood of the goddess" has to mean reincarnation, and not genetic descent. This is the only way for Zelda to remain special and be the only one with Hylia's powers. She has to be Hylia.
Hero-of-Time-777 is completely right you know, despite the men on here trying to tell her she's not. Nintendo trying to make Zelda and Hylia different people is a horrific mistake they're going to regret later, as anyone who knows genetics will see with the continued "unbroken exclusive Hylia bloodline producing Zeldas" crap. It destroys everything that makes sense in the series, saps the meaning out of Zelda/Hylia's relationships, and the deepness of the story. "Chosen knight of the goddess" is one of Link's monikers. Who is he always the chosen knight of, who was confirmed to be the goddess Hylia in Skyward Sword?
"I am the goddess reborn as a mortal." -- Zelda, Skyward Sword
"While it's true that I am Hylia reborn, I'm still my father's daughter and your friend..." -- Zelda, Skyward Sword
"Master Link, you have successfully protected the goddess reborn and defeated Demise, fulfilling your role as the hero of legend." -- Fi, Skyward Sword
Goddess reborn literally means the goddess was reborn. Instead of trying to deny this truth and twisting words out of context, why not accept what is officially canon and makes perfect and brilliant sense?
A descendant is not the same thing as a reincarnation. Us Zelinkers are supposed to be comforted that Link is ****ing Hylia's daughters instead of their mother Hylia? The fact that so many callous morons in the fandom can't tell the difference between a woman and her daughters proves how deep in misogyny the Zelda fandom is.
Funny how LOZ "theorists" try using science to cover their absurd theories, like Zelda's unbroken bloodline, until they realize science is not on their side.
Zelda is Hylia, no matter what Nintendo says. If Link is the same man reincarnating eternally, so is Zelda the same woman reincarnating with him as the goddess Hylia.
Reincarnation doesn't mean those people are literally the person they've been reincarnated as. The people still have their own individuality and make their own decisions. For example, Link in Ocarina of Time isn't literally Link from Skyward Sword, Zelda in OoT isn't literally Hylia, and Ganondorf in OoT isn't literally Demise.A descendant is not the same thing as a reincarnation. Us Zelinkers are supposed to be comforted that Link is ****ing Hylia's daughters instead of their mother Hylia? The fact that so many callous morons in the fandom can't tell the difference between a woman and her daughters proves how deep in misogyny the Zelda fandom is.
Funny how LOZ "theorists" try using science to cover their absurd theories, like Zelda's unbroken bloodline, until they realize science is not on their side.
Zelda is Hylia, no matter what Nintendo says. If Link is the same man reincarnating eternally, so is Zelda the same woman reincarnating with him as the goddess Hylia.
Zelda is Hylia, no matter what Nintendo says.
The fact that so many callous morons in the fandom can't tell the difference between a woman and her daughters proves how deep in misogyny the Zelda fandom is.
I gotta ask, as a newbie to the forums, are insults like those seen in this thread the norm?
No, not at all. Conversations in all parts of the forums are usually very relaxed and civil between members.I gotta ask, as a newbie to the forums, are insults like those seen in this thread the norm?
...How is she Hylia? Through the blood! Cuz she has one kid, a daughter. That's how she remains special.Zelda is getting her power from being the incarnation of Hylia; not the descendant.
This renders the bloodline thing completely pointless. If almost everyone in Hyrule has Hylia's blood (which is what will eventually happen if Zelda chooses to have kids during the course of her eternal reincarnations) then the only way for Zelda to remain the only one with 100% the blood of the goddess is to be the goddess's reincarnation.
"Blood of the goddess" has to mean reincarnation, and not genetic descent. This is the only way for Zelda to remain special and be the only one with Hylia's powers. She has to be Hylia.
Zelda. The chosen knight of Zelda. The goddess reborn. Emphasis on born.Hero-of-Time-777 is completely right you know, despite the men on here trying to tell her she's not. Nintendo trying to make Zelda and Hylia different people is a horrific mistake they're going to regret later, as anyone who knows genetics will see with the continued "unbroken exclusive Hylia bloodline producing Zeldas" crap. It destroys everything that makes sense in the series, saps the meaning out of Zelda/Hylia's relationships, and the deepness of the story. "Chosen knight of the goddess" is one of Link's monikers. Who is he always the chosen knight of, who was confirmed to be the goddess Hylia in Skyward Sword?
This is semantic. I see your point."I am the goddess reborn as a mortal." -- Zelda, Skyward Sword
"While it's true that I am Hylia reborn, I'm still my father's daughter and your friend..." -- Zelda, Skyward Sword
"Master Link, you have successfully protected the goddess reborn and defeated Demise, fulfilling your role as the hero of legend." -- Fi, Skyward Sword
Goddess reborn literally means the goddess was reborn. Instead of trying to deny this truth and twisting words out of context, why not accept what is officially canon and makes perfect and brilliant sense?
As a Zelinker, I do not want Link to be ****ing the vessel of a thousand-year-old mother Goddess. I want him to ****ing a person. An actual human person.A descendant is not the same thing as a reincarnation. Us Zelinkers are supposed to be comforted that Link is ****ing Hylia's daughters instead of their mother Hylia? The fact that so many callous morons in the fandom can't tell the difference between a woman and her daughters proves how deep in misogyny the Zelda fandom is.
Funny how LOZ "theorists" try using science to cover their absurd theories, like Zelda's unbroken bloodline, until they realize science is not on their side.
Zelda is Hylia, no matter what Nintendo says. If Link is the same man reincarnating eternally, so is Zelda the same woman reincarnating with him as the goddess Hylia.