Dang. I can't help but feel like we hit the wrong guy.
Pendio, I'm mad at you too. I really wanted to hear GDL's claim. You had absolutely no reason to claim, Pendio; you weren't up for a lynch, and GDL had already said he was going to claim. And blocking Vergo makes me suspicious as well. Why would you block a regular Cult member? You must have thought that he was actually the Cult Leader -- which makes me think, why would you prevent the Cult Leader from confirming someone? You could very, very easily be a Mafia Roleblocker, as that's quite standard as well.
Ugh. I'm just really mad that Pendio claimed. I really wanted to hear what GDL had to say, but now we'll never know. I would like to point out that he COULDN'T be a Cultist, though, with his current claim. The SK did not attack the night that he was recruited (right? I wasn't exactly active at that part of the game... Still don't know how we learned he was the SK...) and thus GDL could not have used his ability this night. ...Besides, if Vergo was Roleblocked, he couldn't have been recruited anyway. I really wanted to see if he was going to slip up and claim Cultist so I could use that argument to prove his truthfulness or not. But Pendio has taken that from the Town, which makes me think he had ulterior motives. On the other hand, if GDL HAD claimed Cultist, then HE would be practically confirmed Mafia. I'm not sure who to trust anymore.
If I die, I want you guys to know that I don't believe GDL is a Cultist, and that Pendio may have just tried to prevent the Town from learning important information. Please, please keep that in mind. I suspect that either myself or JC will die in the night -- assuming we didn't just lynch a Townie -- so I want all of my suspicions out right now. Please remember them if I die. That's my biggest concern right now.
I was never actually going to claim to have been recruited, as that's not what happened. I don't know if Vergo lied and didn't target me, or if his ability didn't go through because he was killed, but I'm not a cultist. If I were I would say so outright, because then the cult would be able to win with the town I think. If Thar turns out as a mafia member, and the last mafia kills someone who is town and not cult, then there would be a 1v1v1 tomorrow (of course, this is assuming there is still a cultist which I can't say for sure) so town and cult lynch the mafia, and since they can't kill each other game turns into a tie. However, if Thar is not mafia then this whole last day has been for nothing.
My god, man! Why are everybody so cool with the Cult winning? If I had not blocked Vergo this night, and instead potentially blocked the Mafias factional kill, the Cult would have very likely taken the victory already (that would have meant that the Town would have lost, by the way). Since there were six players alive last night, two of which were Mafia, I was thinking that they can easily be dealt with during the days (which they can if we just focus a bit) and that if I did not block the Mafia killer, then they might just night kill some Cult member if we are lucky. What bothers me the most right now is the way people look at the Cult. You seem to think it is some sort of Town Mason group, similar to the one in the LOtR Mafia, while in reality a Cult is as much its own faction as the Mafia is, with identical win conditions. I had said for days that I thought that Vergo was the Cult Leader, but I did not choose to block him until last night, when blocking him was crucial for the Town's well-being. So please stop saying that the Cult possesses the power to "confirm" Townies, because it does not. The Cult corrupts Townies, and turns them into scum. My night action was only logical.
Oh, I had forgotten name claiming was allowed. I am Dracomajora, still the Roleblocker.
Yes, but how could I have known that the Cult was about to recruit Mafia? If he had attempted to recruit a Townie without being roleblocked, the Cult could have won by now. Also, I doubt the Mafia will attempt to kill me tonight for the simple fact that I am currently being suspected.
And JC, what is your opinion on my name claim that you asked for?
You are contradicting yourself here. Yes, it's true that the cult corrupts townies but we've long since established there's some sort of alliance between us, because one can't survive without the other at this point and we have a common enemy. Your logic makes no sense. Vergo had openly said they were going to target me to try and confirm if I was mafia or not, and according to you you've been suspicious of me "all along" so you wouldn't have worried about him targeting me because if you truly believed I was mafia then I wouldn't have been recruited anyway. But then, instead of trying to roleblock the mafia members, you went for the cult again, explicitly for Vergo who at the time was starting to look as if he was not in fact the Leader but just another cultist. How could you have known he was lying without the help of some kind of cop? And why would you take it upon yourself to hinder one of our main resources in such a way as to block their ability?
Yeah, so what reason did you have to claim then? I had more votes on me than you did. You had basically already hinted at claiming Cultist, and after that (after my claim) you "soft claim" Watcher instead. This inconsistency bothers me.
The reason I had to claim is that I had information for the rest of the town. The reason I had to claim is that JC had asked the Watcher to claim one or two days back, but I hadn't been able to because of people claiming first. The reason I had to claim is because I had
said I was going to claim yet you saw fit to claim instead. I never tried to hint at claiming cultist and if you got that impression from me, then I apologize. And yes, after
your supposed claim I softclaimed that role because I had no other choice as I could no longer fully claim. What inconsistency? For days I've been trying to put hints in my posts about my role. I've said I will "keep an eye on so and so" or "watch so and so" during the nights. Yes, I admit maybe I wasn't being obvious enough, but it was all I thought to do without being able to fully claim, and not wanting to get killed at night without first revealing the results of my nights.
Not at all. A very common way in which Mafia game mods handle the Mafia's factional night kill is to let them decide themselves who they want to send out to perform the kill. In fact, here at these forums, this seems to be the most common way. So by my roleblocking the Godfather, I would not necessarily prevent the Mafia from killing, as they apparently sent out another player that night.
I did think about that at first, as I am aware of that method being used. However, considering we now can safely assume that every single one of the mafia members has an ability I didn't think it'd be plausible for, lets say the Roleblocker, to visit one person during the night while they are simultaneously at another place killing someone. That's why I thought that the Godfather would be doing the kills. Of course I might be wrong and the mods explained to you how you do your kills at night, but I wouldn't know.
And your post, GDL, it just screams "Mafia" to me. Not only does it contradict my night actions, but you also seem subconsciously unsuspicious of Thar. Sure, you placed the vote, but his death was inevitable anyway. In some ways it seems almost as if you are still defending him, even though he is bound to die...
Also, the fact that GDL missed out on his claim today is really not that big of a deal. He can always say it tomorrow. Besides, I thought it was quite obvious that he was about to claim to be a Townie who had turned Cultist, right? And now, even though it was not an official role claim, he has basically claimed to be a Watcher. However, because he waited so long to do this, and because many of his results and whatnot do not match my actions, it is safe to say that (from everybody else's perspective) either GDL or myself are the last Mafioso if Thar flips Mafia.
Yes, of course I'm defending Thareous. The only reason I've said I'm pretty sure he must be the mafia cop and hammered his lynch is because I know he will be in a better place after he is lynched.
Good god man now it just seems like you're desperately trying to make it seem like I said or did something that I never did to inculpate me. Please tell me how I am subconsciously unsuspicious of Thar because it must be subconscious to such a great extent that I myself don't even know. I already said I never meant to claim cultist, and at this point the fact that to defend yourself you're trying to attack someone else instead of actually defending yourself just tells me that your defense is really shaky and you're vehemently trying to draw attention away from yourself.
