Why Do So Many Ppl Think There is a Split Timeline...?

[Vault Boy]

The split timeline actually makes sense, and sure you can find flaws in all theories but when you look a most linear timelines there are like a billion flaws.

 

[Goldenblade]

People KNOW there is a split timeline because, I've heard that NINTENDO confirmed it.

 

[Ghirahim]

As many people have already said, it's official. I never knew there was a split timeline until I read about it and was surprised. I think it makes complete sense. Well, as much sense as time travel can make!!

 

[zeldadan]

The Logic Behind the Split Timeline Theory

really, i do not think there is a split time line. if there is, then it did not start with ocarina of time.

if link and zelda warned the king of ganon before it was too late. why did they not do that in the first place? zelda made it clear that she tried to warn her father about ganondorf. im not sure if the king would suddenly believe link and zelda about it. ganon was strong enough to place curses on certain areas of hyrule before the king even knew about it. ganon also had the man power to kill all the castle gaurds and army before link opened the sacred realm. so before ganon obtained the triforce of power, he was already strong enough to destroy everything.

see what i think happens after you beat ocarina of time, which makes way more sense is. young link travels to termina(majoras mask). 7 years later, link has grown up naturally. while that link is doing what ever, back in hyrule link is doing what it takes to defeat ganondorf.

also im new to this board, big zelda fan.

 

[JuicieJ]

its the best explanaition so far and it makes sense but that seam like it shouldnt be called ocarina of time, but ocarina of dimentions.. (no hate intended)

this is how i see it:

OoT->--OoT child end-------OoT adult end-->TP--->WW-- bla bla
...............................\MM/

i have to check that credit ending again, but i normally think credits show moments during the game and not from after the game i finished spirit tracks last night and only in the very end do you see something from after the game story, and its meaningless...

Yes, the different endings of Spirit Tracks are meaningless, but in Ocarina of Time, the credits weren't. They wouldn't show that festival for no reason. They did that to assure us that there were two separate times. I remember wondering if the time Link left behind would still be in existence, and when I saw the festival, that question was answered.

And I see you're putting The Wind Waker after Twilight Princess (as most linearlists do). That's not possible. It takes place in the time Link left behind, as I've said already. Ganondorf broke out and there was no Hero to save the people, so the gods flooded the land. If WW took place after TP, that would be completely contradicted.

 

[zeldadan]

someone give a link confirming nintendo saying there is a split timeline. I heard there confirmation of a timeline, nothing of a split timeline.

link and zelda warning the king about ganondorf makes no sense. he did not believe zelda, and what ever proof they had could have been used at the beginning of the game. ganon was strong at the beginning of the game, before he obtained the triforce of power.

 

[JuicieJ]

someone give a link confirming nintendo saying there is a split timeline. I heard there confirmation of a timeline, nothing of a split timeline.

link and zelda warning the king about ganondorf makes no sense. he did not believe zelda, and what ever proof they had could have been used at the beginning of the game. ganon was strong at the beginning of the game, before he obtained the triforce of power.

I don't know if they've ever stated the split itself (they probably have in interviews), but it's confirmed through the games. All the information I and Locke have given proves it.

I'm pretty sure if this kid Zelda described in her dream came up and started saying that he had a similar dream, the King would listen. Especially considering he had the Spiritual Stone of the Forest. And I'm sure Navi would have pitched in.

 

[zeldadan]

I don't know if they've ever stated the split itself (they probably have in interviews), but it's confirmed through the games. All the information I and Locke have given proves it.

I'm pretty sure if this kid Zelda described in her dream came up and started saying that he had a similar dream, the King would listen. Especially considering he had the Spiritual Stone of the Forest. And I'm sure Navi would have pitched in.

then why the heck did they not just do that in the first place? it would have saved link a whole lot of trouble. the impression i got from the game, is that most of the adults don't listen to kids. if thats all it took, then its lazy story telling. although i guess zelda gives link the ocarina of time before he leaves for termina. so something must have happened to ganon. but i doubt he was executed. hes too much of a beast for that.

 

[Satsy]

I thought one of Locke's posts on the first page showed Anouma talking quite openly about there being a split timeline, saying Twilight Princess and Wind Waker ran parallel. If that's not talking about the split timeline, then I'm sure there are far more examples in the resources link at the top of the page.

It also seems silly to say Ocarina of Time should not have been called that, as the dimensional aspect of the timeline argument didn't happen until the very end of the game -- the rest of it is still shifting between being a child and being an adult.

Also not sure why the split would not have occurred during Ocarina of Time. If anything all the time shenanigans makes it the perfect spot for all the splits you could think of! Its like the ever-aggravating time-travel element in any sort of media. Paradoxes, plot holes, becoming you own grandfather... If a game that involves affecting time to try to prevent a great evil taking over the world isn't the place for splits to occur causing parallel lines where different Links drive off evil to save different Zeldas, then I'd love to see where would be.

EDT: For the record this isn't all directed at a sole person, but simply at points being raised in the thread.

 

[JuicieJ]

then why the heck did they not just do that in the first place? it would have saved link a whole lot of trouble. the impression i got from the game, is that most of the adults don't listen to kids. if thats all it took, then its lazy story telling. although i guess zelda gives link the ocarina of time before he leaves for termina. so something must have happened to ganon. but i doubt he was executed. hes too much of a beast for that.

Why do you think he was leaving the land? You don't think he would have left on a personal adventure before making sure Ganondorf didn't do anything, did you? He was ridden out before he could come to power. As I said, when faced with lots of evidence, especially direct evidence of what Zelda's dream was, I'm pretty sure anyone's going to believe it then. Her father thought nothing of it when his little daughter said something, but when you bring forth evidence like that...

 

[zeldadan]

I thought one of Locke's posts on the first page showed Anouma talking quite openly about there being a split timeline, saying Twilight Princess and Wind Waker ran parallel. If that's not talking about the split timeline, then I'm sure there are far more examples in the resources link at the top of the page.

It also seems silly to say Ocarina of Time should not have been called that, as the dimensional aspect of the timeline argument didn't happen until the very end of the game -- the rest of it is still shifting between being a child and being an adult.

Also not sure why the split would not have occurred during Ocarina of Time. If anything all the time shenanigans makes it the perfect spot for all the splits you could think of! Its like the ever-aggravating time-travel element in any sort of media. Paradoxes, plot holes, becoming you own grandfather... If a game that involves affecting time to try to prevent a great evil taking over the world isn't the place for splits to occur causing parallel lines where different Links drive off evil to save different Zeldas, then I'd love to see where would be.

EDT: For the record this isn't all directed at a sole person, but simply at points being raised in the thread.

yeah i take back what i said about it not being a split timeline. because zelda gives link the ocarina of time before he goes to termina. So something must have happened to ganon, but i don't think he was executed. nore do i think zelda and link convinced the king. but something happened to him.

 

[Locke]

then why the heck did they not just do that in the first place? it would have saved link a whole lot of trouble. the impression i got from the game, is that most of the adults don't listen to kids. if thats all it took, then its lazy story telling.

The problem wasn't caused by the king not listening to Zelda, it was caused by Link opening the Door of Time. When he went back in time, he knew not to open the Door of Time, because he knew exactly what Ganondorf's plan was. He was therefore able to thwart it in some inadequately explained way. What JuicieJ posted may have helped, or they could have set some sort of trap. The important thing was that they knew that getting the Triforce before Ganondorf was not the right way to go about exposing/defeating him. They didn't do it in the first place because they didn't know his plan at that time.

 

[JuicieJ]

yeah i take back what i said about it not being a split timeline. because zelda gives link the ocarina of time before he goes to termina. So something must have happened to ganon, but i don't think he was executed. nore do i think zelda and link convinced the king. but something happened to him.

Of course something happened to him. He fled. Then after some time, the "divine prank of the gods" happened, in which the Triforce somehow broke on its own, giving the three pieces to those chosen by the gods. Ganondorf wouldn't have come back to Hyrule, as people would be waiting for him, so he just did random things, and became "blind to any danger." Then the Sages captured him, executed him, Ganondorf came back to life with the Triforce of Power, and he was sealed in the Twilight Realm. That's the untold part in-between OoT/MM and TP.

 

[zeldadan]

The problem wasn't caused by the king not listening to Zelda, it was caused by Link opening the Door of Time. When he went back in time, he knew not to open the Door of Time, because he knew exactly what Ganondorf's plan was. He was therefore able to thwart it in some inadequately explained way. What JuicieJ posted may have helped, or they could have set some sort of trap. The important thing was that they knew that getting the Triforce before Ganondorf was not the right way to go about exposing/defeating him. They didn't do it in the first place because they didn't know his plan at that time.

that makes waaay more sense. but ganon was trying to open the door himself, they had to do something, otherwise he would eventually obtain the spiritual stones, and the ocarina of time.

 

[Locke]

that makes waaay more sense. but ganon was trying to open the door himself, they had to do something, otherwise he would eventually obtain the spiritual stones, and the ocarina of time.

The way Aonuma described it, "something outrageous happened" (actually I don't remember if he was captured before or after the outrageous incident). There's a theory that he tried breaking into the Temple of Time by force, since Link wouldn't open the door for him. Evidence for this theory includes the sad state the building is in during TP. Somehow, the entrance being violent instead of through tricking someone else to help him allowed the Sages to capture him. TP describes that he was made blind by his overconfidence.