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TP - Hero's Shade Confusion

Discussion in 'Zelda Theory' started by Tetra's Wink, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Tetra's Wink

    Tetra's Wink

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    So if Link gets reincarnated over time, his current soul should be in the current Link. Those are the laws of reincarnation if I'm not mistaken.

    So then, how is the Hero's Shade able to exist at the same time as Link, if it is supposed to be a past Link?

    Edit: Can a mod edit the title, I mis-spelled Shade as Shad. Thanks
     
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  2. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Spiritual Mask Salesman ~ Deus' Pug Smuggler ~

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    I don't think reincarnation, in Zelda, works like reincarnation in Hinduism or Buddhism. In those "ways of liberation", the same soul is reincarnated over and over, i.e. recycled. With Zelda, it would seem the hero's soul is passed on to different incarnations, however the souls of the previous heroes still exist apart from it.
     
  3. Castle

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    The whole "reincarnation" thing is dumb to begin with, but ninty can't even be arsed to properly explain what it means or how it works exactly. We're better off ignoring it.
     
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  4. Fierce_Deity

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    I don't think they are existing at the same time. I think of it more of an awakening in Link, part of the manifestation of the Hero's Spirit that happens to him early in the game.Remember the green tunic just appearing on you? Otherwise The Shade could have contacted him at any point. Furthermore, he 'regrets' not having been able to pass down knowledge. The likely explanation for that after Link returns from Termina, there was no major to threat to Hyrule since Ganon was thrown into the Twilight Realm, so the Hero's Spirit never awoken.

    This would also explain why Midna never comments on it. Of course, rather than have Link walk around randomly getting skills in his mind, they made a side quest out of it.
     
  5. Domozilla777

    Domozilla777 Dmitri Forum Volunteer

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    I think it's more of an Ancestral awakening. Link has come to the age where it's his turn to take on the evils of Hyrule. who's to say that the other Link's didn't experience something similar?
     
  6. Vanessa28

    Vanessa28 Angel of Darkness Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't think it's a reincarnation. Look at Spirit Tracks. Zelda is the granddaughter of Tetra. I think it's just the "fire" of a hero or goddess that wakes up when time of danger is near. So everytime Hyrule is in danger, the fire or spirit of the chosen ones will wake up. It has been confirmed Hero Shade is OoT Link. But that doesn't mean TP Link is his reincarnation. It means TP Link has the same "hero spirit" inside him as OoT Link used to have. I don't believe all Links and zeldas are reincarnations. ST Zelda can't be a reincarnation of her own grandmother I guess. But who am I to tell for sure? Just my two cents
     
  7. Spiritual Mask Salesman

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    Actually, usually the spirit and the soul are considered different things. The soul is what makes one unique as an individual, but the spirit passes to each incarnation I assume. Not the souls of past Links too. Take it from me, the Spiritual Mask Salesman himself.

    So the Heroes Shade is just the soul of OoT Link, and that is why he can linger on even though there is a new incarnation of the hero, housing the Hero's Spirit.
     
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  8. DJ Twitch

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    My take is that most Links reincarnate, but there are some exceptions such as TP Link. I actually plan to make my own thread on this issue when I get around to it, but basically, the Hero's Spirit was not reborn because it was still roaming the Earth, thus the new bearer of the ToC had to be the next best thing; a direct descendant. I'll go into more detail on that when I make my thread.
     
  9. Spiritual Mask Salesman

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    I'm pretty sure the Hero's Spirit is a constant, it has to be reincarnated.