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Super Smash Mafia 2: Originals vs Clones - Game Thread

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Johnny Sooshi

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During Night 1, Jamie PMed me and told me that I can't be roleblocked because of the same reason Johnny stated (I can't say the actual wording).

Johnny, it seems like you know a lot about my role :P

I mean it's all a guess lol. I've spent tons of time reading over different roles for uses in various games so this one kinda just clicked.

I was solely basing my attack on what Eduarda had said. After yesterday, I think it is quite clear that she is not scum and find her trustworthy. Her third party claim made me believe her even more, because I see no reason for a third party to reveal unless it is to remove scum and, as result, gain the town's trust. There is no doubt in my mind that Eduarda is still looking for a way to win. But to reveal when she did would be stupid unless she thought she found scum. So I trusted what she was saying and believed that you were definitely scum who attacked her.

Fair enough. I'll buy this.

Learn to go back over posts Johnny, stated several posts ago i didn't attack Eduarda. Check page 19/20.

You're right, my bad.

OK. I am the vigilante. My night attack parameters are 70%-90%. I targeted Johnny yesterday. Either someone blocked me, or Johnny(or perhaps Eduarda??) is lying about something

your thoughts?

I mean idk if I would have claimed, but that's a separate matter.

I did throw an RB at Eduarda, so idk what happened to you. If you were RB'd there would be no way of knowing what happened. Jamie doesn't reveal info other than damage in the flavor posts.
 

Eduarda

Srishti is annie is eduarda right?
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The only other information I've been given is that if the person who I damaged exceeds their defense, they have an extra 20% chance of dying
 

Mellow Ezlo

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There are four options that I can think of: either Jamie messed up, one of you or Bryant is lying, Johnny is lying about roleblocking you, or your role has a hidden modifier. Question is, which is more likely?
 

Johnny Sooshi

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I've no interest in targeting Eduarda seeing as i'm town i can't do jack to her.

You can say that, but scum and town will both say that.

There are four options that I can think of: either Jamie messed up, one of you or Bryant is lying, Johnny is lying about roleblocking you, or your role has a hidden modifier. Question is, which is more likely?

Why those four possibilities? Couldn't there be more. If the mafia blocked Regal, nobody would be lying. Though that would be a hell of a guess. I still think it's possible for a separate role to cause someone to take more damage during the night. That's the only explanation I can give for how much damage I received.

Pit it this way: if Regal targeted me as Vig, that one hit would make sense. But I attempted to block Eduarda, so I'd have gone up to like 130-150% range. I'd be dead. So something else must have modified the damage I took from Eduarda.
 
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OK. I am the vigilante. My night attack parameters are 70%-90%. I targeted Johnny yesterday. Either someone blocked me, or Johnny(or perhaps Eduarda??) is lying about something

your thoughts?

Wow... I.. uh.. well, I didn't expect that. This, unfortunately, makes you a big target for scum, especially if they have a roleblocker. In fact, if Johnny didn't block you, then maybe mafia targeted you last night. But if your attack did go through, then that explains Sooshi's current damage.
 
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There are four options that I can think of: either Jamie messed up, one of you or Bryant is lying, Johnny is lying about roleblocking you, or your role has a hidden modifier. Question is, which is more likely?

Personally, I don't think Bryant would go out and fake claim like that. It seems like a pretty big risk to take.
 

Viral Maze

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@Viral Maze you too. Please catch up and post something. If you can't, at least ask for a replacement. You're holding the town up.

Been busy, but I'm reading. Been up since 6am, got home from work and I'm starting to catch up. Summers are wild for me anyway, so my activity in these large games will be sparse. I messaged Jamie as well. If he can find a replacement for that's cool (but that replacement has to read 400+ posts anyway), if not, I'll still be reading and catching up. I should post something proper in a few irl days.
 

Eduarda

Srishti is annie is eduarda right?
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I've been thinking about this.

At first I thought our doctor was inactive. There was no one being healed.

But after all these item claims, I think we probably dont even have a doctor. Heroine confirmed some of the items give damage. What if some heal. And some roleblock.

I lost count of how many people confessed to getting items but it's like 4 or 5. At least. Not including the people who didn't confess. I think this probably random distribution of items is a big part of the game.

And I think Mafia could have also gotten these items.

Now let's look back at Pendio's damage. 22%. It's very likely that was an item.

And maybe an item was used on Johnny too, to give that extra damage.
 

LittleGumball

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i'm going to make this as quick as possible k friends

I didn't know how high your defense was
BS defense honestly. Eduarda literally talked about his damage being so high. That plus why wouldn't you check his damage before attacking?

I am not as suspicious of Doc. I'm more suspicious of the people who didn't post during that time or who said they are considering attacking Johnny.
why?

What about the people who weren't around? (aka me :) )
I'm definitely down for attacking Toxic for the day. But I want to wait to hear from Pendio before I do anything.
mistyped name or? because that's kind of unrelated
(unless i missed something ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
Eh, why call out all these people only to attack one? I get you want to help, but randomly attacking people who are inactive isn't going to help anything. Chances are, you're going to hit Town more than scum and you're just going to end up making people unnecessarily vulnerable.
because you can only attack once a day

(i mean i think that's why i quoted this post, f if i can remember)
I remember last time you used the phrasing of "100%", you were scum.
#rekt

Just because the townie is different, your parameters suddenly change?
#REKT
sweet jesus i just had to track through literally 100 odd messages, i get the feeling i've missed a day or two. Can we please get tagged to tell us day or night? if it was one night i know that i got attacked by at least two or more Mafia personally or whoever is attacking these days, no i didn't go for eduarda because despite suspicious activity (at least what i saw at the time) i had no proof. I can't really form an opinion on this all because literally at least 6 thread pages have just gone by. Jesus you people are industrious.

From what i've seen JC is getting jumpy alot and Toxic is just randomly accusing. But i can't really tell.
wtf is this post
Also, I really wanna throw an attack on @RegalBryant tbh, but PLs don't seem to have a place in this game. Just a bit frustrated.
i feel u

Johnny, it seems like you know a lot about my role :P
I mean it's not hard to understand that it's a passive role. Role blockers can only stop active actions, you can't roleblock someone who's BP

I was solely basing my attack on what Eduarda had said. After yesterday, I think it is quite clear that she is not scum and find her trustworthy. Her third party claim made me believe her even more, because I see no reason for a third party to reveal unless it is to remove scum and, as result, gain the town's trust. There is no doubt in my mind that Eduarda is still looking for a way to win. But to reveal when she did would be stupid unless she thought she found scum. So I trusted what she was saying and believed that you were definitely scum who attacked her.
Johnny might be okay with this but I'm not. I don't have the time or the energy to go poking around or w/e but I just don't buy this.
Oh no, Gummy's reading the thread
.....?
There are four options that I can think of: either Jamie messed up, one of you or Bryant is lying, Johnny is lying about roleblocking you, or your role has a hidden modifier. Question is, which is more likely?
yeah my immediate thought was Johnny's suggestion, mafia blocker could have blocked Bryant (obviously they're not going to say anything about it because, they're mafia, also, they would immediately be confirmed scum,,,,,,,,,,)
Hmm. @Tristan what game is my character originally from, and have you played that game?
why does this matter?
(hint: it doesn't)


some other posts existed while i was writing this post but i can't be bothered tbh

back to being busy see you never
 

Eduarda

Srishti is annie is eduarda right?
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why?

What about the people who weren't around? (aka me :) )
I already explained why right below that quote. It's just speculation but I don't think Doc being as experienced of a player would jump on board without thinking, as Mafia.

And of you're away that's ok.

I mean it's not hard to understand that it's a passive role. Role blockers can only stop active actions, you can't roleblock someone who's BP
That was just a joke :P But yeah you're right.

A lot of people were claiming so

why does this matter?
(hint: it doesn't)
I thought maybe my character is related to someone. Like maybe someone is immune to them or something else which would have caused these results.

@Johnny Sooshi your character from Final Fantasy?
 

Libk

Spaceballs: The Mafia Player
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Sorry fam. Been busy, and thread exploded quick. Not sure how to feel about everything as I'm still reading. Hmm
 
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