Game Thread Scooby Doo Mafia

[funnier6]

I'm going to operate under the assumption you're telling the truth, since you claimed Daphne and that would be pretty brave or stupid for scum to do I'd say.

Johnny flipped as "Simone Lenoir masquerading as Shaggy Rogers ". I'm assuming that means there's a Shaggy out there somewhere. Or, there's no reason at this point to think there isn't. Maybe there isn't another Shaggy, but there could be another Daphne/Fred/etc

And finally, from the rules:



Line one separates roles and name claims, line two only talks about roles being NAI. Therefore, I'm concluding that names are AI.

This isn't to say that Kirino is telling the truth, but that would run the risk that someone could say "hey wait, I'm Daphne too".

I think we already had this conversation in group chat but if you look at the opening flavor it shows three people taking the place of three members of Scooby n co/their friends and Johnnys flip proves it. If we all claim, which we might as well, no ones going to get counter claimed and everyone is going to be a "good person" like how I'm a Hex Girl, youre Fred, Ex is Velma, and Kirino is Daphne. We are definitely not all town.

 

[naga10]

Mod Note: Names are not AI.

Welp! Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[ExLight]

Johnny flipped as "Simone Lenoir masquerading as Shaggy Rogers ". I'm assuming that means there's a Shaggy out there somewhere. Or, there's no reason at this point to think there isn't. Maybe there isn't another Shaggy, but there could be another Daphne/Fred/etc

sorry but are you completely out of your mind
it's clearly supposed to be a fake nameclaim and related to their role

otherwise everyone could've nameclaimed D1 and cracked the game open

 

[naga10]

sorry but are you completely out of your mind
it's clearly supposed to be a fake nameclaim and related to their role

otherwise everyone could've nameclaimed D1 and cracked the game open

Yeah, didn't think about that. Now that we have mod confirmation, we can move on.

 

[ThePoesareLoose]

@Spiritual Mask Salesman @Giri
Are you ok with me outing your roles? I need at least one of you to agree so I can prove mine.

Give me a second I need to understand what's going on

Sure

 

[funnier6]

Sure

Giri would you like to maybe perhaps comment on who youre thinking of lynching today

 

[naga10]

Sure

Ex claimed you are partially a babyface. Is this true?

 

[ExLight]

ok so I can think of three possibilities:

Either Kirino is lying, SMS is lying, or funnier is lying
Which is really annoying because it boils down to at least one scum here and this group is what caused the Johnny wagon to be a thing

I'll try to make a small case for each one

Kirino can be lying about the results; it's mildly easy to falsify partially, and he could tweak one or two things to cause inconsistencies whenever he wanted.
I feel like faking the entire role is ridiculously risky because there's no way he'd guess how many players right now are passive, but he did wait for most of people to out their roles and which actions they used, which leaves a really really really small chance of this happening which wouldn't really surprise me after his gambling in Raccon City Mafia as the "Tracker". tl; dr I think he's telling the truth the role about his role but there's a decent chance they omitted or modified info to guarantee a mislynch this phase.

SMS I have my case from the previous days, but he also fits in this mess. We can't tell how his item works but we know it was allegedly a roleblock, which came back to hunt us here in Kirino's results. I already presented the theory that it had to be activated (idfk mic had to be turned on or some****?) and that it was used this phase as a role action, which would explain the two roleblocks in this phase.

Funnier I'm getting super mixed feelings about it because he got my role right so he did target me with something and is most likely telling the truth about that. I'm not sure if I like him going after Naga for a roleblocker shot though, but I guess it could be understandable if it stops kills? In any case we can verify who he absorbed which each stuff by having him roleblock someone that might still have a shot of something tonight (item included I'm assuming, so it will always work) so we can still figure out whether or not he's scum 100% tonight which is pretty good in literally every case scenario.

 

[ExLight]

I actually have a pretty good plan and I'd like to suggest it here

If funnier is lying, that means he already used his Roleblocker shot

iirc SMS said he has the Mask item that acts like a hider, right? I suggest the following order of events:
- Funnier Roleblocks SMS
- SMS uses the Mask item and hides behind anyone they want
- I rolecop SMS again

If funnier really is telling the truth and has a roleblocker shot, SMS won't be able to use the item and I'll be able to rolecop him.

If funnier is lying, SMS will be able to use the item and I'll see the role of whoever he hides behind. Even if the mafia tries to kill him he's bulletproof, so unless a strongman shot targets him (cough cough Doc) we should be able to guarantee SMS to survive tonight and test this.

It should also verify if SMS is telling the truth about how this item works, which is somewhat a small issue due to how different funnier's and SMS' worked.

 

[naga10]

Your theory flows with my reads from yesterday, so obviously I support it since nothing has convinced me otherwise.

I'll have to think more about this. My only initial problem with your night plan is that game could end tonight, so I'd prefer hitting one of them with a lynch.

 

[ExLight]

I'll have to think more about this. My only initial problem with your night plan is that game could end tonight, so I'd prefer hitting one of them with a lynch.

The game can only end tonight if Doc shoots town if funnier is telling the truth about his role
The ideal lynch in this Day Phase here would be to lynch him today and gain 1 or 2 more day phases (1 phase if he's town, 2 phases if he's scum)
if Doc is scum he can shoot through SMS' bulletproof and cause the game to end, which is the only thing that might backfire this plan afaics, but if he's solved we don't have to fear that

 

[ExLight]

er, not sure if I worded that properly
just ask if it is ambiguous or anything I guess

 

[Spiritual Mask Salesman]

Ah, ok Ex got it right, I'm 1x Bulletproof and 1x riddle helper. To name claim, I'm the Boo Brothers. Anyway, iirc the night where there was two roleblocks, one was from me, isn't it possible that Rubik could have used his roleblock that he won the same night? I'm assuming we get the same riddles and rewards in each group?

I don't think the rewards have anything to do with amplifying the roles we have like Funnier theorized, so far they've just had random benefits as far as I can tell. I think the only way they could amplify abilities is if someone who has a certain role gets an item that could potentially relate to them, but even that's a stretch.

 

[ExLight]

isn't it possible that Rubik could have used his roleblock that he won the same night?

we don't even know what his item would do
he said his worked differently because of his character and died the same night, so we never had the chance to hear from him

 

[Spiritual Mask Salesman]

we don't even know what his item would do
he said his worked differently because of his character and died the same night, so we never had the chance to hear from him

Did he specifically share what the benefit of the reward was for him? That could help out right now. Also I need to look back at funnier, what's all this stuff about him vamping?