Well by definition they are, but we're talking within the realm of the series; usually a villain refers to the head figure of evil - we only use the term out of that context when a person takes on the role of a villain but is not the main threat... (e.g Zant or Ghirahim). So in this case, both are not villains of this context. Going by definition, you could basically say any boss of the series is a villain - this just confuses things further, that's why we typically use "villain" for the main threat or in some cases, sub-threat. Dark Link or Phantom Ganon don't play the typical role of a villain, they appear as bosses and have no in game character personas - of course you can speculate, but there game purpose is for them to be bosses, they are no more unless proven otherwise.
Wait you lost me, where have you got these terms from? We barley no anything on this supposed new Triforce.
Wait you lost me again, Ganon himself can be taken for being a "Dark" being of sorts - why is Phantom Ganon a dark version of himself? Both have very similar visual similarities and colour schemes. Plus "Phantom" usually refers to a ghostly being or in some cases an illusion, I'm not seeing where you got that from so I'll have to disagree there.
:facepalm: This is why I don't seem to even bother post any theory threads anymore. Ever since that one thread I posted, heck, ever since I joined here and started sharing my theories and opinions, you people have torn them apart and started this never ending series of arguments between me and you. Why can't ever say anything positive about our opinions for once? There have been things I've agreed with on but I just never told you. So why can't you ever agree with me on anything?
Anyways, about what you said, like what I said in my previous post TP again disagrees. Another thing that disagrees is religion. You've never heard of Satan have you? Satan is the name that a ruler or leader of all evil, in this case villains goes by. In religious terms known to most religious people, that would be Lucifer. In Zelda terms, most would probably say Ganon. Wrong. Ganon is an incarnation of Demise, who has this other name proven by a wiki site, "Death". In religious terms, Death is mostly only a follower of Satan. Now, who is Zelda's equivalent of Satan you ask? Good yet also a rhetorical question. You see, this is only just close to where TP comes in, I'll get to in several more sentences. How, you ask? Simple, you see, if Satan defines the ruler/leader of villains, what does that make the ruler/leader of heroes? Well, in religious terms, there is a section in the Bible known as "the New Testament" that talks about to the events of the God was here on earth as one us often known as Jesus Christ, who was often referred to as the "Savior" of that time and the eternal true "Savior" of all eternity. In case you are wondering, Savior is the exact opposite of Satan (Which does in fact mean ruling destroyer of domination, basically a one word name for evil's sovereign) as Savior stands for true hero or the ruler/leader of heroes. So now that you know that, now it's time that I that what exactly this has to do with TP. Do you remember Impaz, you know, the old lady who saved Ilia's life in the first place? Well, there was a scene in the game where she referred to Link as
Hyrule's savior. You know what that means right? That's right, Dark Link
is Hyrule's Satan.
Alright, now that I have that out of the way, now let's define what a villain and a hero are and they're differences, shall we? A villain is someone who terrorizes people while a hero is saves, serves, and protects people. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean they are the leader, that just means that a villain brings despair, anarchy, injustice, disorder, bondage, and terror as where a hero brings safety, justice, law, order, freedom, and prosperity. As I've explained, the leading villain is always Satan even if he/she doesn't show him/herself sometimes as where a leading hero/heroine is a savior even if or when he/she is not around or available at the moment or place.
Also, about the "new" Triforce, I think, no, I
know it should be obvious by now that it is the "Dark Triforce", "Cursed Triforce", "Shadow Triforce", whatever you want to call it, same kind of thing. It's also obvious that there will be wielders of this "Dark Triforce" as it was confirmed by Nintendo by them showing off Hilda (Again Dark Zelda) and that gerudo guy who I still think is Phantom Ganon, that Twinrova theory doesn't make sense. Although, while, it's possible they may be responsible for his new look and name, but I kinda doubt since they mostly only loyal to their actual son himself, who at this point, Phantom Ganon would hate and despise for leaving him behind and as far as I know, Twinrova would be against those types of guys.
Speaking of Ganon, you mentioned how he was already of darkness, right? While that is true, you should also know that his body/vessel is actually of
light as well his very being, since he is an incarnation of Death(in Zelda terms, Demise) A.K.A Apollyon the fallen(in this case means former) angel of death who was once of
light but always stood for darkness and death as that was always his specialty so therefore as Death/Demise his more of "Dark Light" or "Corrupt Light" rather than just pure darkness. I mean, I guess you can say that on the defeated timeline, in a way, Ganondorf true became of pure darkness, in which in this case would make the Phantom Ganon of that timeline more of an Anti-Ganon rather than Dark Ganon.
Also, Phantom Ganon can't be an illusion if he can make illusions of himself, an illusion can't make another illusion. Now the Phantom Ganons that Ganon would summon in the horseback phase of the final boss battle of TP, they are illusions.
Also, like Triforce King said, that gerudo guy does make sense to be Phantom Ganon for two reasons:
1) Phantom Ganon has waited
years to years to get his revenge on the hero's kind as it is.
2) Link is cursed into a
painting and one Phantom Ganon's abilities is to become part of a painting or to become a painting on a wall. Let alone the fact it was Phantom Ganon's ability that inspired the idea.
Plus to mention that the gerudo guy looks a looks alot like a scrawny Ganon clone, but with resemblances to Ghirahim (who was also a tool of the Demon King
). Also, his staff looks like a big magical paint brush, at least at the end of the staff anyways. Let alone the fact the weapon Phantom Ganon used was a trident which is indeed in the staff weapon family. Plus to mention he kinda treated that trident like it was a paint brush of death. He basically seems like a guy who is really obsessed with artwork. much like how Ganon really likes music, especially his own theme.
Anyways, that's all I have to say for now, I'm tired. :tired:
So yeah, look like phantom ganon coming back. And I think it will be phantom ganon who will curse Link because who did the Zelda team get the ideal from. That's right this
I rest my case.
