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Game Thread Little World of Gumball Mafia: Day 4 (Endgame)

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Player 6

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I *can* elaborate more if you all want. I've softed it some already today. I was just trying to keep the true nature vague.
I mean you can if you want but I dont see it making much difference at this point

Also I'm sure you realize but you could easily have made that entire thing up and we're powerless to say youre wrong lol

Not that I think you did but its basically impossible to prove without you dying (which will probably happen fairly soon if youre town so I wont worry that much I guess)

I'd still like to hear youre reasoning on why you aren't town reading 8 at the very least

Also can you ask 7 for a reads list? You might have better luck than me
 

Player 9

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I mean you can if you want but I dont see it making much difference at this point

Also I'm sure you realize but you could easily have made that entire thing up and we're powerless to say youre wrong lol

Not that I think you did but its basically impossible to prove without you dying (which will probably happen fairly soon if youre town so I wont worry that much I guess)

I'd still like to hear youre reasoning on why you aren't town reading 8 at the very least

Also can you ask 7 for a reads list? You might have better luck than me

Yeah, I could be but I wanted to try to get town on the right track before I potentially died without having revealed. Though you all could have found the track I left after my flip but I felt it may be too late by then. Especially since we're looking at a likely sk.

I assume I know who 8 was, but that doesn't really give me great confidence in a read on what they did. I don't think they did much AI, and they're in my wagon analysis PoE.
 

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why are we townreading 10? I think I missed some logical point here

I don't think 12 is scum tho, I feel like scum tied two leading town wagons to reduce the chances of them getting lynched or expecting someone would tiebreak it

which makes me slightly scumread Ballin', Deflective, and Fashionable for now
 

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why are we townreading 10? I think I missed some logical point here
My conclusion was that they didn't seem like they had much of a plan like I would expect scum to have. I wouldn't necessarily call it a townread, more like the coin flip vote wasn't a malicious scum move.
I'm townreading 7 and 13 and to an extent 1. So that leaves 2, 8, 10, and 12 as either votes or wagons.
So, since you never answered me earlier, essentially your argument for suspecting me is that I was voting for a townie at the end of the wagon? How do you feel about people who took no position at all?


@Player 1 @Player 8 @Player 11 @Player 12 all of you need to post, especially in light of 9's claim.

@Player 10 Please make a vote. If you don't have anything strong enough to vote for, at least give us some reads. All you've done today is defend yourself which isn't terrible but it's not great either.

@Player 5 Is there anyone else you're suspicious of besides 6? I don't think you're going to get them lynched any time soon.
 

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So we're going to just believe that Gumball the High is telling the truth? When flips don't give us any info, it is safer for mafia to pull off potentially risky moves, meaning it is much harder to trust people based on things like that.

Anyway, @Player 9 have you abandoned your suspicions of Player 6 or are they still there? Because now I get the impression that you're cooperating with that slot where previously you were on the same track as me in that you felt they weren't really saying a lot in spite of their needlessly high post count. Just asking because I don't recall seeing you back off, or were you never really suspicious in the first place? This could also he my brainless sleep deprived mind speaking.

To answer the question though, thinking under the assumption that it's true Wise was town, then that makes Player 10 look a lot better, though I still think they made their explanation up on the spot. Still, if tying up the votes wasn't to save a scumbud, then he does look a lot better.

I think, if what Gumball the High said about Gumball the Wise is true, it makes Gumball the Deflective look slightly worse to me. I will have to think more on it. I know getting them lynched is not likely at this point but I am really not feeling that great about that slot right now.
 

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I'm gonna try to break these posts up a bit I guess because I feel they're going to be long.

Do you have any reason to suspect me, or any question to ask me? If I remember correctly you were the one who said yesterday that there was "something off" about me. I can't really respond to or defend myself against that lol.

When I posted that my reasoning was mostly reading into wagons and that gut feeling of something being off with your posts. I mean that's still the case because I haven't gotten around to reading d1 again, but with my more recent posts I think it makes more sense why I came to that conclusion with wagons.


I dont see what difference that makes? Like I really dont get it lol

I felt you were off d1. If I think you're possibly mafia, I don't want you telling your scumbuds who I am.

Well that something must be pretty huge cause I dont see how he's been all that town. Lol.

I actually do think he's probably town but that was more of a gut impression from overall "would he really be doing this" type stuff. Like I dont know how you can say hes in his town meta when his town meta can be painfully similar to his scum and he hasn't even had a chance to flip out and omgus and despair for his life etc etc.

I remember what it was now. It was the fact that his guesses for identities seemed way off. I don't want to explain why that matters because that could reveal my identity to those who haven't figured it out yet. But it feels different than something previous. Though it could be an act to look like they are unaware.

There are some differences with their scum play that I'm not seeing at the moment. But I admit that I'm starting to feel a lack of their presence (even though they have posted quite a bit, it's the feeling like they haven't done too much) and that's giving me a bit of a double take.


But random person idk the identity of, this is PK Starstorm destroyer of worlds. Idk why you'd just give a pass for that little bit they posted day one. Prodding people is easy and I do it every day. There is something that I wonder that scum PK wouldnt do but lets hear some more from u pls thank u fren uwu

I didn't want to say this before when I was masking my identity, but the read does depend on PK feeling similar to what I've seen before. I don't know their scum play so obviously I can't cross reference, but the fact they seem similar and that I liked their d1 posts made me feel pretty good about them.

Didnt you just say 12 was probably town earlier? I couldve sworn you thought all three of those were town? I know I did but I thought you agreed

D1 I believe I said I found 12 the most town out of the 3 wagons. But I don't believe I was explicitly town reading them. And that all changed when the wagonomics nation attacked.

I already had this conversation with think it was 7

I can explain it again in more detail (also I'm really annoyed you of all people didnt read) but the short version is I unvoiced Wise because 12 was being aggravating lmao and I said I'd put my vote back on Wise if it came to a tie. So now I guess youre like, well 6, why didnt you break the bloody tie? Cause it became a tie at like two minutes to deadline and I didnt see it thats why! Also even if I had seen it that isnt really a decision I wouldve liked to make spur of the moment from work so idk what the heck I wouldve done. Well, this is more the long version

I did read the thread. Mostly it was that I felt that was very uncharacteristic of you. And I for some reason I feel like there was another game where something similar to this happened and you were scum. Maybe. Maybe you were town. I just remember defending you for it and I *feel* like that came back to bite me in the butt.

Player 9- Really mixed here, on the one hand, ;_; trust used to be our thing, on the other hand maybe you had a good reason? Idk what it could possibly be that you were worried I would do something when you know how I play and you know what my priorities are and I just. I didnt even get the benefit of the doubt? On day one we always... this is kind of darker than when I was thinking you just hadn't joined and left me by myself :c

Probably more obvious now why I wanted to lay low. Also for other reasons you may be able to figure out because you were kinda treading down that same thought path yourself. I didn't want anyone to have any bias towards reading me.

Anyways, assuming Wise is scum, I think its likely that there was a scum on Ecstatic's wagon. I know this is bringing literally nothing new to the table and I am sorry about that. Coronavirus has made the past few days a little shaky. Moving past that, I feel pretty good about lynching Fashionable today. Their placement on the wagon isn't great and they pushed it into kitb.

Saw this when I was re-reading and feel it's quite interesting. It's like a re-written script of what I thought scum might do/say after Wise's flip. Hmm.
 

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Slight suspicions about her saying roles and names aren’t related. Not too abrupt about it though and seems technically for the most part true since the roles aren’t thinned enough and relation isn’t clear enough yet for us to make any realistic guesses, but eventually I feel we might be able to make some deductive reasoning (the question I have is how murdering roles will look when dead; aren’t some roles like innocent child just inherently town or mafia?). 6/9 not a lot to go off of.

I didn't say they weren't related. I said something like it not being productive to discuss or something like that? I do think they are related, but the reason I said that is that like with mine it makes sense with my name but also you all likely would have never guessed it. So I figured that was likely the case with most roles so I felt discussing it was probably distracting us from more pertinent topics.

Animaeus, I had a spur-of-the-moment thought of who you could be, even though there's no way that's you. How long does it take you to paint a fence?

I really don't think they're who you think they are. I would be very, very shocked if they were.

I don't, should I feel bad

I mean, I see something they did in that post. Not sure if it was intentional or not. But it makes me think of one person but I have no clue if it's them because I remember absolutely nothing about how they played.

I feel a bit less dumb now, but still pretty dumb.

I can't quite figure out who you are but for some reason I'm really liking you. Not in a town read sense. I just like your posts.

why are we townreading 10? I think I missed some logical point here

I don't think 12 is scum tho, I feel like scum tied two leading town wagons to reduce the chances of them getting lynched or expecting someone would tiebreak it

which makes me slightly scumread Ballin', Deflective, and Fashionable for now

10 is being tentatively townread for trying to save a townie when alignments don't flip. If they are scum then them voting 12 was a weird move. I mean 10 could be scum and 4 and 12 town and it was all for ****s and giggles but that's not the more simple explanation.

What changed your mind on 12? You were voting them d1.

So, since you never answered me earlier, essentially your argument for suspecting me is that I was voting for a townie at the end of the wagon? How do you feel about people who took no position at all?

I answered your previous post in the above post so some explanation is there. I also realized that the reason I feel off about you is I think due to the fact that your posts sound logical almost to the point knowing more about the gamestate - a mafia perspective. It's like you know what to say. Also ngl, your name has me paranoid that you're a godfather type role.


I haven't placed as much focus on those off wagons because it's harder to read into their motives since they didn't take a stance. I think it's unlikely that all scum didn't vote, and in a game with no alignment flips they can be bolder about controlling things. I did point out a post from 11 that is giving me bad vibes though. Starting to reconsider them and may add them to PoE.

So we're going to just believe that Gumball the High is telling the truth? When flips don't give us any info, it is safer for mafia to pull off potentially risky moves, meaning it is much harder to

It's fair to question my claim. I feel like I'm decent enough at mafia to control the votes just by my posts if I'm scum though, instead of taking a risk with a fake claim when I don't know if town has a role cop, alignment cop, or any other role that could out me.

Anyway, @Player 9 have you abandoned your suspicions of Player 6 or are they still there? Because now I get the impression that you're cooperating with that slot where previously you were on the same track as me in that you felt they weren't really saying a lot in spite of their needlessly high post count. Just asking because I don't recall seeing you back off, or were you never really suspicious in the first place? This could also he my brainless sleep deprived mind speaking.

My suspicions aren't as strong as d1, but they're not completely gone. The thing is, as town I typically cooperate with people I know think similar to me so that I can pick their brain a lot which gives me more information on them to analyze.

6 has given me some of their town vibes, but it hasn't been as strong. Which is hard to parse because I don't know if it's just because they don't have meta to work on or if it's something malicious. I know they gave an explanation for why they weren't on a wagon but it still feels unlike them. Also they seemed to be going in a direction today that I feel like scum would have went after d1, but again that could he due to lack of alignment flips. I want to see what they do now that I've provided more information about alignments, because now it is much harder for scum to control the narrative.
 

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Ohhhhh

I wasnt voting Wise I was voting Wolverine

Okay I see how that happened, I was wanting Wolverine to post more and 12 self pressed there so I unvoted cause 12 was being aggravating lol so I wanted to see how he'd react to me taking away his self pres wagon

No wonder I couldn't remember why I had voted Wise, I was thinking 12 had self pressed to Wise and I had unvoted from there but it was the other way

I kind of regret that now cause Wolverine was at least a better wagon than ballin and Ecstatic in retrospect, I was all mixed up phone posting from work

Still I cant say I'm totally sold on Wolverine but in line with all these people that died ending up being town I definitely want to look into him today, or actually its kind of late for that since day ends tonight already

Coincidentally I was already voting there so @Player 11
 

Player 11

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So I have decided to use my ability because there’s a lot happening irl and I can’t dedicate the time to this game. Pwease dont be mad at me.

If the Fashionable doesn’t die, they’re town.
 

Player 9

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So I have decided to use my ability because there’s a lot happening irl and I can’t dedicate the time to this game. Pwease dont be mad at me.

If the Fashionable doesn’t die, they’re town.

Are there other consequences if 10 doesn't die?
 

Player 6

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So we're going to just believe that Gumball the High is telling the truth?
Obviously theres the possibility she's lying but unless anyone really has a problem with it I dont really see why we should doubt her rn

I kind of find it funny that I'd love to yell at this weird attitude you're taking to the game but youre IC so its immaterial
I think, if what Gumball the High said about Gumball the Wise is true, it makes Gumball the Deflective look slightly worse to me. I will have to think more on it. I know getting them lynched is not likely at this point but I am really not feeling that great about that slot right now.
u have to buy me dinner before you can talk dirty to me like that uwu

I'll be waiting for your argument
 
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