Shadsie
Sage of Tales
*Skims*
*Holds up hands*
All you folks arguing now, don't you understand the concept of divergent canons?
It happens *all the time* with anime and manga... this is something I've learned as a fan of those two media. Very, very often, someone will create and publish a manga which will be made into an anime. The anime often has to do things a little bit differently from the manga - sometimes with or without the manga creator's permission, and sometimes, an ongoing manga series will get a short anime series. In the end, though the two things will diverge story-wise, fans must come to the conclusion that "both are the canon, but are alternate universe of each other/two different takes on the story."
This happened bigtime with my favorite: Trigun. The creator of Trigun published up to a certain point in the manga before his manga publisher went belly-up. Someone at Studio Madhouse liked his story and said "Hey, let's create an anime." The mangaka was invited to be involved in the process and to approve everything - and he said "The anime is the anime, you folks do what you want with it." As the anime team created the anime and worked out thier own ideas to end the series, a new publisher picked the mangaka up and he decided to do more with the manga story - he did a lot of expansion, lots of things the anime did not do, including a little bit of ret-con and the introduction of characters that did not exist in the anime. (Yet, you can tell that the mangka enjoyed the anime because latter chapters of the manga involved characters and things that had, up until that point, only been in the anime with no way to fit them into the manga). Now, among Trigun's fans, you had people who only considered the manga the "true canon" because it's what the creator directly worked on, while ignoring the fact that, yes, the creator did, indeed, work with the anime team and approved of what went on there. In short, they are both canon, just divergent canons on *roughly* the same story.
And that is often how things are between adaptations. One "canon" really only becomes non-canon if you get a situation like what happened with Hellsing. There was a manga, then an anime. The manga was ongoing, the anime team for that did weird things that the creator apparently did not like. The anime has been since ret-conned by another anime that follows more closely to the manga (I have yet to see it, myself as I'm never really got deep into Hellsing and don't really care, I just had some Hellsing-loving friends for a while and am aware of this stuff). It's like, the manga creator for Hellsing said "Dude, the anime sucks. MAKE IT AGAIN."
Personally, with Ocarina of Time game and manga canons - I view it in the same way I view Trigun: Divergent canons *both* approved by the creators. One story works better for gameplay, the other works better for reading. They are both equally valid, but differring.
Therefore, I don't see the reason for fighting between fans of the two.
I'm also rather twitterpated that dear Link's personality in the OoT manga is considered canonical - because I like it. It's like, when I'm writing OoT fic and I'm basing my ideas on his general personality on what I've read in the manga, I'm "getting it right" (for a character who, in the game, isn't show with much of a personality). It's like "It's okay for me to base my ideas on his personality on this manga that I liked."
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Oh, do you know how freakin' jazzed I'd be if Nintendo folks read my fan fiction and came to me and said "Zelda Western. Awesome." (and gave me and my co-writer some credit and royatlies?) I'd probably drop dead from pure happiness to see such a game...
*Holds up hands*
All you folks arguing now, don't you understand the concept of divergent canons?
It happens *all the time* with anime and manga... this is something I've learned as a fan of those two media. Very, very often, someone will create and publish a manga which will be made into an anime. The anime often has to do things a little bit differently from the manga - sometimes with or without the manga creator's permission, and sometimes, an ongoing manga series will get a short anime series. In the end, though the two things will diverge story-wise, fans must come to the conclusion that "both are the canon, but are alternate universe of each other/two different takes on the story."
This happened bigtime with my favorite: Trigun. The creator of Trigun published up to a certain point in the manga before his manga publisher went belly-up. Someone at Studio Madhouse liked his story and said "Hey, let's create an anime." The mangaka was invited to be involved in the process and to approve everything - and he said "The anime is the anime, you folks do what you want with it." As the anime team created the anime and worked out thier own ideas to end the series, a new publisher picked the mangaka up and he decided to do more with the manga story - he did a lot of expansion, lots of things the anime did not do, including a little bit of ret-con and the introduction of characters that did not exist in the anime. (Yet, you can tell that the mangka enjoyed the anime because latter chapters of the manga involved characters and things that had, up until that point, only been in the anime with no way to fit them into the manga). Now, among Trigun's fans, you had people who only considered the manga the "true canon" because it's what the creator directly worked on, while ignoring the fact that, yes, the creator did, indeed, work with the anime team and approved of what went on there. In short, they are both canon, just divergent canons on *roughly* the same story.
And that is often how things are between adaptations. One "canon" really only becomes non-canon if you get a situation like what happened with Hellsing. There was a manga, then an anime. The manga was ongoing, the anime team for that did weird things that the creator apparently did not like. The anime has been since ret-conned by another anime that follows more closely to the manga (I have yet to see it, myself as I'm never really got deep into Hellsing and don't really care, I just had some Hellsing-loving friends for a while and am aware of this stuff). It's like, the manga creator for Hellsing said "Dude, the anime sucks. MAKE IT AGAIN."
Personally, with Ocarina of Time game and manga canons - I view it in the same way I view Trigun: Divergent canons *both* approved by the creators. One story works better for gameplay, the other works better for reading. They are both equally valid, but differring.
Therefore, I don't see the reason for fighting between fans of the two.
I'm also rather twitterpated that dear Link's personality in the OoT manga is considered canonical - because I like it. It's like, when I'm writing OoT fic and I'm basing my ideas on his general personality on what I've read in the manga, I'm "getting it right" (for a character who, in the game, isn't show with much of a personality). It's like "It's okay for me to base my ideas on his personality on this manga that I liked."
................
Looks above:
Oh, do you know how freakin' jazzed I'd be if Nintendo folks read my fan fiction and came to me and said "Zelda Western. Awesome." (and gave me and my co-writer some credit and royatlies?) I'd probably drop dead from pure happiness to see such a game...