JuicieJ
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Is your hatred of Skyward Sword obfuscating your ability to think clearly and objectively? Lol.
Wait... are you actually asking that as if you don't know it's fact? :bleh:
Is your hatred of Skyward Sword obfuscating your ability to think clearly and objectively? Lol.
That makes very. Little. Sense. How is she "some random goddesses (sic) from a before-time" when she's present in every game to date (in spirit) and also the reason that Link exists? Hylia and Zelda are essentially one and the same; lots of games and other media use some form of reincarnation of its main hero/heroine as a plot device; The Legend of Zelda is no different.
"Random" as in, appeared out of nowhere. Though technically Hylia has been in every game, that would be due to added lore, not because she was actually there. Can we really say we knew Zelda was connected to Hylia before playing SS... or that Hylia even existed? It's easy to come up with lore that doesn't correlate at all with the clues the series has given. The only thing that makes it right is that the creators of the other games have their names on it.
However, Hylia does tie in Zelda to the rest of the series. I like the idea of getting back to the creation of Hyrule. It prevents Nintendo from making any more prequels and forces them to move forward with the story.
There's really nothing to stop Nintendo from making another prequel. One might realize that SS is actually begging for one, especially when you talk to Faron about the history of the land.
Well I do realize made the usual mistake of talking about events that happened before-hand. It's just that SS suggests we're getting back to creation itself. We need one more prequel. A prequel literally starting with the creation of the world. After you've gone back to that, there's no farther back to go. Nintendo will have to move storylines forward and not back.
Oh but Nintendo can do whatever they like with a prequel no matter the backdrop. It's what they did with Hylia; they introduced another "goddess" who supposedly was this all-important being (for a time), but poof she's actually Princess Zelda!!yayayay. No. I don't accept that, personally, because there was and is absolutely nothing within the games prior to SS that even hint as Zelda having the blood of the goddess. :I
Oh but Nintendo can do whatever they like with a prequel no matter the backdrop. It's what they did with Hylia; they introduced another "goddess" who supposedly was this all-important being (for a time), but poof she's actually Princess Zelda!!yayayay. No. I don't accept that, personally, because there was and is absolutely nothing within the games prior to SS that even hint as Zelda having the blood of the goddess. :I
I actually think Skyward Sword included a prequel-hook.
Remember when you get the sailcloth? The description of it was "This was used by the ancient Hero!" - i.e. a Hero came before Skyward Sword. (Not necessarily the one in the manga, either, as I think the manga was created after the game and is of dubious canon / non-canon status).
UNLESS, of course, the crazy crack-thoery I propsed in a fanfiction I just posted ("Sailcloth Journeys") is actually right (... and the "sailcloth used by the Ancient Hero" refers to the Hero of Winds/Wind Waker because Time is shaped like a Triforce and everything in that universe is on an eternal recurrance loop). - I DID JUST SAY MY FANFICTION WAS CRACK.
So, yeah, I think Nintendo pulled a straight-up sequel hook there. (Then again, I also unintentionally predicted the existance of Fi in regards to a fanfic I wrote years before SS came out...)
*Waggles fingers and goes wooooo!*
I don't think Hylia puts the brakes on prequel-games, Nintendo will just have to be creative and retcon some more!
I was thinking of Hylia's role and how... if I am remembering my Tolkien-lore right, how she might correspond to that. It's been a while since I've read "The Lord of the Rings" and I only ever read part of "The Silmarilion" so if I'm not getting the names for ranks/deities straight, I apologize...
In comparing Zelda-lore to Middle Earth lore... I think the Golden Goddesses / The Three are the "above-all" like Eru Illuvitar - the Creator and Hylia / Light Spirits/Great Deku Tree/the Dragons are all kind of like the Valar or the Maiar. - Just in case it might be helpful in distinguishing roles by comparison. The "minor gods" the Valar and Maiar class have various powers and are in charge of certain things, but they are created beings who answer to the Creator, ultimately. That's how I think Hylia must be - Hyrule's Creator-Goddesses, being too busy or just disintersted in the world they created, or maybe just wanting to pass their power around and share, made Hylia as a world and Triforce-watcher and to either watch over the human-type mortal race the Three had created or to have free reign to create them herself. (Personally, I think the Hylians/humans were created by the Three, while Hylia was the designated protector, but I could be wrong).
I do think the Tolkien inspiration in Hyrule is pretty obvious, so it wouldn't surprise me if Miyamoto, Aunouma, etc. were thinking in terms of the Middle Earth rankings for deities and powers in piecing together the games.
Nintendo left it mysterious and open so they could do whatever they wanted later.
I'd say Twilight Princess had the "prequel hook." The City in the Sky, the oocoos, the scattered owl statues... with SS being the next major game to come out and it being about past Hylians who lived in the sky, TP was clearly setting up mysteries to be solved by that game. (Too bad SS hardly solved any of them). Even before I knew about SS, I could pretty much see where TP was leading. I don't feel that same "hook vibe" from SS, but something more along the lines of... Nintendo left it mysterious and open so they could do whatever they wanted later.