Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

[Rubik]

There was a Town Silencer and a Town Role Cop in this game.
I don’t see why/how a Town Roleblocker is that unbelievable in comparison. Especially to the Town Silencer.

Town having two Role Cops, while Mafia has none? That is unbelievable.

I don't think a town roleblocker is unbelievable, I think he's lying about being a roleblocker for fake townpants. It wouldn't be hard for scum to have two people claim roleblocker to ensure that one of them survives to endgame and the nk on hero probably made that plan slightly less effective.

He's literally done nothing to confirm his role works so far, I see no reason to trust his claim. Regardless, I think he's already incapable of winning at this point, so tonight's kills should suffice.

 

[Maniacal Engineer]

the nk on hero probably made that plan slightly less effective.

...how would a Mafia Roleblocker flipping make the Mafia’s plan to have two players claim Roleblocker so that at least one survives until endgame make the plan slightly less effective?

If anything, the fact that a Mafia Roleblocker flipped, and at least one Town member vouches for knowing Zinn’s role before said flip, lends more credibility to the claim.

 

[Rubik]

...how would a Mafia Roleblocker flipping make the Mafia’s plan to have two players claim Roleblocker so that at least one survives until endgame make the plan slightly less effective?

If anything, the fact that a Mafia Roleblocker flipped, and at least one Town member vouches for knowing Zinn’s role before said flip, lends more credibility to the claim.

It's the timing of it that makes it less effective. They could have used a day bussing their scum bud but instead had to lynch a second member of their faction, effectively killing their chances of having enough members surviving until endgame. Imagine if Hero were lynched, caps was cop cleared, Moe was still alive, and Zinn had actively lead us to lynching Hero because of his counter claim how differently the situation might have gone, especially if the SK hit that night had killed someone who had a pretty good town reputation.

 

[ZinnLav]

I swear the only thin Rubik's done this game is paint me as Mafia.

It's safe to say if I roleblock Rubik, take the kill ME lands on me, my flip will clear this up and we can get on with lynching Rubik

 

[Rubik]

I swear the only thin Rubik's done this game is paint me as Mafia.

It's safe to say if I roleblock Rubik, take the kill ME lands on me, my flip will clear this up and we can get on with lynching Rubik

I like to tunnel on whatever feels scummy to me.

Part of me likes the idea because there's a certain extra satisfaction to surviving the game, but practically speaking there's no reason to leave me alive overnight when we can instead kill both of us and leave nothing to chance. I'm not going to tell people to make a suboptimal move just because it makes victory marginally more stylish.

@Lone_Garurumon @DarthWolf - Does a roleblocker prevent mafia factional kills?

 

[Maniacal Engineer]

I swear the only thin Rubik's done this game is paint me as Mafia.

It's safe to say if I roleblock Rubik, take the kill ME lands on me, my flip will clear this up and we can get on with lynching Rubik

Rubik is going to die. Block ME.

 

[Maniacal Engineer]

@Lone_Garurumon @DarthWolf - Does a roleblocker prevent mafia factional kills?

Way to ask a Question that you know the hosts can’t answer.

 

[Rubik]

Way to ask a Question that you know the hosts can’t answer.

We have a revealed roleblocker who has flipped. There's no reason they can't answer that question about what should be public information given that the role is public knowledge.

 

[Maniacal Engineer]

We have a revealed roleblocker who has flipped. There's no reason they can't answer that question about what should be public information given that the role is public knowledge.

The role is a Mafia Roleblocker, ergo, it would never be used to block mafia factional kills.
Answering the Question would confirm the existence of a non-Mafia Roleblocker.

 

[Rubik]

The role is a Mafia Roleblocker, ergo, it would never be used to block mafia factional kills.
Answering the Question would confirm the existence of a non-Mafia Roleblocker.

They can answer a question about how a hypothetical non-mafia roleblocker could work if they choose to. That's not abnormal.

It's safe to assume that the mafia roleblocker was the one who blocked minish if you believe her testimony, which means it at least functions on SKs unless that was also when the doctor was pointing their protection that night.

Hell, you can have Zinn ask the mods himself and report back if you think they won't answer a hypothetical for us, although that information would only be reliable if he flips town.

 

[Rubik]

The role is a Mafia Roleblocker, ergo, it would never be used to block mafia factional kills.
Answering the Question would confirm the existence of a non-Mafia Roleblocker.

Also a mafia roleblocker could feasibly want to block their own faction's kill. It's unlikely, but possible.

 

[Maniacal Engineer]

It's safe to assume that the mafia roleblocker was the one who blocked minish if you believe her testimony, which means it at least functions on SKs unless that was also when the doctor was pointing their protection that night.

You didn’t read properly. Minish had the same target as mafia that night, so Mafia just got the kill first.
There is no evidence to suggest any Roleblocker working to prevent any factional kills in this game so far.

 

[Maniacal Engineer]

Also a mafia roleblocker could feasibly want to block their own faction's kill. It's unlikely, but possible.

Unlikely to the point of not even being worth discussing, especially with the Mafia Roleblocker already being dead this game.

 

[DarthWolf]

Moe the Moblin V - funnier6, Funnygurl555, Maniacal Engineer, Rubik, Spiritual Mask Salesman, Morbid Minish

I'd like to point out Lone's second mistake here, it should have been VI votes, not V.

@Lone_Garurumon @DarthWolf - Does a roleblocker prevent mafia factional kills?

They can answer a question about how a hypothetical non-mafia roleblocker could work if they choose to. That's not abnormal.

In the case of a non-mafia roleblocker it would depend on what their specific role pm states.

 

[The Sun Fan]

I hope zinn is mafia because then that means SMS was basically in wolfchat the whole game

Sadly, it's probably just rubik