Right, that's kind why I question Seanzie's scumread. It definitely seems like Isett brought up for discussion a reasonable scumhunting method, and asked everyone else to weigh in on how they think it'd work in this game, and people's weighing in on this could definitely serve as somewhat of a basis to read them on as well, which makes Seanzie's scumread on Isett strike me as weird because what Isett's post does strikes me as towny enough. I don't want to go after without an explanation of why its scummy though...I mean, hypoclaiming is reasonable when done well as far as I'm aware
not 100% sure how that works with a hider instead of a sheriff but
...Okay, but.@ DW
I've got not thoughts to offer on what is being discussed because it's whatever. You either give cover by saying you peeked someone or what have you or you don't.
I don't care about it. And if you think pushing such a strong response on me over my first post is going to change my mindset, hahahahahaha.
I never said it was locked, I said I'd move it if I saw something better to push.We're two pages in and all you've discussed, in no particular depth that involves previous reads or the like, is opinions on whether or not putting legacy PR targets is good to do.
To answer your question: No.
Have fun locking in your vote on me because you're not going to see anything until something worthwhile comes up for me to speak on.
Click the three "..."s at the top and select "Who Replied?", then pick the number by the person's name.how do I ISO on this site btw
I don't think we went into detail, but Mikey stated any setup with a cop needs a rolecop to prevent "mathmatical autowin by hypocopping" to explain Mafia's two PRs to I think Fext Which makes sense, unless the hider dies super early having their results by the time they do die will clear several people, same as a normal cop.also I think we discussed before the game even was up what the optimal play was but it involved everyone sharing results and whenever hider died we'd have a few cleared people
...Care to elaborate on why you think this?
how do I ISO on this site btw
This. Actually makes a lot of sense... I wasn't wolf leaning them in the slightest, but that does kinda line up with what I've seen from wolves in the past. The point about missing the point of the strategy in particular strikes me as a pretty decent wolf point against them.Mostly just because I feel it in my bones, and go almost entirely by vibes in the early game.
Buttt..... if I had to say something more concrete, I'd point out that you seem to be giving them towny points for initating setup spec discussion, which IMO is NAI. However, they gave themselves an out to base their D1 reads just on how people reply to setup spec, and IMO that is a red flag since again setup spec is NAI (easy for wolves to do, especially since many people do setup spec before they get their rolecards), and it leaves them the ability to pick and choose who gave "good thoughts" and "bad thoughts" without really having to explain why those people are suspicious.
But now, they seem to propose a strategy... but they are completely missing the actual value of that strategy, so for someone who wants to talk setup, I don't feel like they've actually considered how different strategies could benefit town (in particular, they seem to think the strategy's benefit would be to generate chatter rather than y'know... clear people).
Finally, the first post is one of the most vulnerable as wolves. As town, there is no pressure so it is easy to make a first post, but as a wolf, the pressure is greatest then (and after the first post, it is easier for wolves to get into the swing of things), so wolves tend to make certain types of first posts, and this sort of "vaguely helpful while asking a question" type first post is >rand!wolf IMO.
No it objectively sucks for ISOing even if its what you've used in every game since you started.Go to the page that lists all the mafia forums, look at the line for Dark Souls Mafia, there is a "Replies: 47" click on the number there, scroll down to who you want to ISO, and click on the number to the far right of their row.
Depending on where you're from, I'll warn you that it's uhh... not a great ISO system, but it is something.
This. Actually makes a lot of sense... I wasn't wolf leaning them in the slightest, but that does kinda line up with what I've seen from wolves in the past. The point about missing the point of the strategy in particular strikes me as a pretty decent wolf point against them.