[9/17/2012 9:23:06 PM] DARK MASTER: You may come in a few days.
[9/17/2012 9:23:29 PM] LoZ: I'll be back in a few minutes.
[9/17/2012 9:28:18 PM] LoZ: I love you DM.
[9/17/2012 9:32:16 PM] LoZ: i kno u ruv me. i ruv u rong time mista.
[9/17/2012 9:56:03 PM] LoZ: Hey DM. I honesty want to apologize to everyone. I was just having some fun...immature fun I suppose. I don't want any problems. I'll be good. Seriously. I really want to apologize to everyone though.
[9/17/2012 10:13:31 PM | Edited 10:14:15 PM] LoZ: If you want, you can ban me after my apology. I just want to set things straight with the members...in person.
[9/17/2012 11:08:17 PM] DARK MASTER: Yeah don't worry, we'll just add you back in a few days. I'm not upset with you personally, I've just gotten so many complains from people asking me to remove you. It's okay if you troll a small amount, but when everything out of your mouth is trollish, people tend to get annoyed. Trust me, I was very trollish myself, when I first joined ZD.
[9/17/2012 11:08:55 PM | Edited 11:09:08 PM] LoZ: But couldn't you let me back in just to personally apologize? If you want to ban me for a few more days that's fine. But I'd like to do it now.
[9/17/2012 11:09:18 PM] DARK MASTER: No.
[9/17/2012 11:09:43 PM] LoZ: What's it going to hurt? It'll be quick.
[9/17/2012 11:09:56 PM] DARK MASTER: Hmmm?
[9/17/2012 11:10:03 PM] DARK MASTER: I could quote something for you.
[9/17/2012 11:10:18 PM] LoZ: yeah, but I want to do it personally, I have a lot of friends in that chat.
[9/17/2012 11:10:38 PM] LoZ: I'm telling you, it'll be quick, and then you can re-ban me. It won't hurt anything.
[9/17/2012 11:12:36 PM] LoZ: You'll still be punishing me, but it'll just be a quick "hey guys, sorry for my behavior blah blah"
[9/17/2012 11:13:22 PM] LoZ: It's the proper thing to do on my part.
[9/17/2012 11:13:49 PM] DARK MASTER: It's just we've dealt with people that have came back temporarily, then spammed considerably more.
[9/17/2012 11:14:02 PM] DARK MASTER: Just because they were pissed.
[9/17/2012 11:14:14 PM] LoZ: I understand that. It'll just take a second, I promise. Then you can immediately re-establish the ban.
[9/17/2012 11:14:17 PM] LoZ: Okay?
[9/17/2012 11:15:25 PM] DARK MASTER: If we made an exception, I'd unfair to the other people that were banned.
[9/17/2012 11:16:00 PM] LoZ: But this isn't an exception. It's a brief come back to apologize, then go back to being banned. I won't feel right unless I apologize.
[9/17/2012 11:16:27 PM] LoZ: I hope you can understand that.
[9/17/2012 11:16:32 PM] DARK MASTER: Why not apologize to everyone personally?
[9/17/2012 11:16:54 PM] LoZ: I only have a very few of them on my Skype. Besides it's best to do so in the group.
[9/17/2012 11:17:19 PM] LoZ: It's not a big deal if you think about it. The whole thing will be like 10 seconds.
[9/17/2012 11:17:42 PM] LoZ: Then do the right thing by re-banning me until you think I need to come back.
[9/17/2012 11:17:55 PM] DARK MASTER: Dude, I'm trying to give you other alternatives, don't push me.....>_>
[9/17/2012 11:18:07 PM] DARK MASTER: [Monday, September 17, 2012 11:17 PM] LoZ:
<<< Then do the right thing by re-banning me until you think I need to come back.You may come back in a few days.
[9/17/2012 11:18:10 PM] LoZ: Oh no. I'm not trying to push you. I just really want to do this.
[9/17/2012 11:18:10 PM | Edited 11:18:15 PM] DARK MASTER: I just old you that.
[9/17/2012 11:18:51 PM] LoZ: I'm just asking you to bend the rule for like 10 seconds. Then everything goes back to normal.
[9/17/2012 11:19:04 PM] DARK MASTER: Sorry, but no.
[9/17/2012 11:19:55 PM] LoZ: You don't have to be that way. I understand how important the rules are. I understand that I deserve to be punished. But what I'm wanting to do is to make ammends. It's for the greater good. Even someone being punished deserves the right to apologize.
[9/17/2012 11:20:47 PM] LoZ: Just give me this one privilege.
[9/17/2012 11:22:04 PM] LoZ: I'm only human. I do stupid stuff like everyone else. I just want to say "I'm sorry". That's it.
[9/17/2012 11:23:28 PM] LoZ: Are you there?
[9/17/2012 11:25:08 PM] LoZ: Dark Master, please don't ignore me. I'm just trying to do what's right.
[9/17/2012 11:27:23 PM] LoZ: Are you going to reply?
[9/17/2012 11:27:59 PM] LoZ: If not, at least say "no". Don't leave me hanging.
[9/17/2012 11:31:33 PM] LoZ: Why won't you answer me?
[9/17/2012 11:33:20 PM] LoZ: Do you study philosophy?
[9/17/2012 11:35:26 PM | Edited 11:35:30 PM] DARK MASTER: Yeah, I find it interesting.
[9/17/2012 11:35:43 PM | Edited 11:35:53 PM] LoZ: Are you aware of Socrates' ideas (or lack of them) regarding justice?
[9/17/2012 11:38:03 PM] DARK MASTER: Ah, it seems like you are trying to give me some philosophical reason as to why we should let you back in temporarily. :^)
[9/17/2012 11:38:22 PM] LoZ: Honestly, yes.
[9/17/2012 11:38:53 PM] LoZ: But it's also fun just to talk about philosophy.
[9/17/2012 11:42:11 PM | Edited 11:42:28 PM] LoZ: Socrates, like you, was very adament about the value of rules and law. He drank the hemlock poison just to show he strongly he supported rule-by-law...even if that law is corrupt. And, like you, he felt that breaking the law, no matter how unfair, was something to be avoided. Rules should not be bent. However, Socrates also valued making ammends and making right what was wrong. Even as Socrates was locked in a jail, (for disturbing the peace), he made sure he paid off all his debts and made ammends to those he had wronged.
[9/17/2012 11:43:57 PM] LoZ: I just feel that the ban should be used as a punishment device. To punish those who do wrong things. It should not, in my opinion, hinder the guilty when they wish to make an apology. The ban is to punish me for my wrong, but it shouldn't keep me from making things right.
[9/17/2012 11:44:43 PM] LoZ: It's a gesture in accordance with the good. Then I submit to the rules, as is just.
[9/17/2012 11:46:19 PM] DARK MASTER: I've heard this before from, who just wanted to get back in, so they can create more problems for people.
[9/17/2012 11:46:28 PM] LoZ: I assure you I do not.
[9/17/2012 11:46:35 PM] LoZ: I wish no harm.
[9/17/2012 11:46:41 PM] LoZ: I was just being goofy and immature.
[9/17/2012 11:47:14 PM] LoZ: It's not like I'm asking you to lift the ban, I'm just asking for a window of opportunity to make an apology.
[9/17/2012 11:47:21 PM] DARK MASTER: [Monday, September 17, 2012 11:46 PM] LoZ:
<<< I assure you I do not.
I wish no harm.Ah, but they've said the samething. The truth is, in our world, words mean nothing.
[9/17/2012 11:47:56 PM] LoZ: That's true. I understand. But I can't cause any problems in 10 sec lol
[9/17/2012 11:48:09 PM] LoZ: have your finger ready on the ban button.
[9/17/2012 11:50:58 PM] LoZ: Just to make sure we're on the same page, all I'm asking is to make an apology in the group. Say "goodbye, see you in a few days" then have you ban me again.
[9/17/2012 11:52:23 PM] LoZ: Will you give me this favor?
[9/17/2012 11:53:50 PM] LoZ: If I was in your place, I certainly would allow you to do so. I know that doesn't mean anything. But I would. Apologies are always good.
[9/17/2012 11:57:26 PM] LoZ: I'm finished with my pleading. What do you say?
[9/18/2012 12:01:29 AM] LoZ: Yes or no? Do you grant me this opportunity? Please answer.
[9/18/2012 12:02:28 AM] LoZ: Regardless of your verdict, I will respect it and cease to bother you.
[9/18/2012 12:05:45 AM] LoZ: Why do you ignore?
[9/18/2012 12:07:45 AM] LoZ: Is your silence on purpose?
[9/18/2012 12:08:53 AM] LoZ: I come to you simply as a human being. Please give your verdict.
[9/18/2012 12:13:20 AM | Edited 12:14:45 AM] LoZ: I take your silence as a resounding no. While it's an opinion I disagree with, it's also one I can respect. Thank you good sir for at least hearing me out and considering my plight. While I have failed to influence you with my defense, I hope you can find it in your heart to allow this privilege to others who may find themselves in similar circumstances. Perhaps, had you ruled in the opposite fashion, we could have become friends. This could have been an event to foster new animosity between fellow dungeoneers. But so be it. In the words of Shakespere "What it be, it shall be, let it follow its natural course." Farewell dear DM.
[9/18/2012 6:57:22 PM] LoZ: Hello DM. Am I free to enter the group now?
[9/18/2012 7:03:57 PM] DARK MASTER: Not currently. Our mods try to act as a group, and some still feel you shouldn't be back for awhile. No matter what my opinion is, I can't act by myself, otherwise I'd create problems for me.
[9/18/2012 7:04:31 PM | Edited 7:05:38 PM] LoZ: Of course. I respect that. When do you predict I'll be able to rejoin the group?
[9/18/2012 7:06:44 PM] DARK MASTER: Some have said two weeks, but personally, I think that's a little much. I'd like to at least get you back in there, within three to five days.
[9/18/2012 7:07:35 PM] DARK MASTER: You should give me your reasons, as to why we should let you back in, that way I can tell the mods what you think.
[9/18/2012 7:07:50 PM] LoZ: Okay.
[9/18/2012 7:09:28 PM] LoZ: I am a good person, who likes to socialize with friends on Skype. My behavior recently was just the result of immaturity and being bored. I just went on a silly troll spree that obviously went too far, and for that I deeply apologize. You should let me back in because I feel I can be of value to the dialogues of the group. My trolling spree is over, and I've learned my lesson.
[9/18/2012 7:11:52 PM] DARK MASTER: You don't need to stop joking, or even trolling, you just can't take it that far. Normally we give warnings, for when we want people to stop.
[9/18/2012 7:12:02 PM] DARK MASTER: The point is for everyone to be happy.
[9/18/2012 7:12:24 PM] DARK MASTER: And enjoy each other.....
[9/18/2012 7:12:44 PM] LoZ: Amen to that. I completely understand and respect that.
[9/18/2012 7:13:02 PM] DARK MASTER: I am happy we agree.
[9/18/2012 7:13:16 PM] LoZ:
[9/18/2012 7:13:16 PM] DARK MASTER: I'll try to make them understand.
[9/18/2012 7:13:26 PM] LoZ: Okay, thank you very much.
[4:39:30 PM] LoZ: Hello Dark Master. Will I be allowed to rejoin the group today?
[5:40:26 PM] DARK MASTER: Thanks to me and Wolf Sage, yes.
[5:41:25 PM] LoZ: Oh great.
[5:43:01 PM] DARK MASTER: I'd try to be a bit nicer to ALIT, because he was mostly upset with you.
[5:43:14 PM] LoZ: Okay.
[5:45:44 PM] LoZ: I'll make an apology speech when the group becomes more active.
[5:46:32 PM] DARK MASTER: I don't think many people are upset with you anymore.....
[5:46:50 PM] DARK MASTER: However, that may still be a good idea.