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There's also a prophecy that Link is supposed to become the Hero of Time. Yet, he never becomes the HoT in the CT, because he changed history. Changing history/destiny is an underlying theme of the CT, between the HoT never being recognized as a hero, to Ganondorf dying forgotten instead of...

''When evil rules all, an awakening voice from the Sacred Realm will call those destined to be Sages, who dwell in the five temples. One in a deep forest... One on a high mountain... One under a vast lake... One within the house of the dead... One inside a goddess of the sand...''-Sheik The...

I mean Ruto is mentioned as being a sage as well in BotW, too. Also, Nabooru is called a sage in the JP version of BotW:

So, I don't know who has seen this passage from CaC/MW, but this is HUGE: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eO7DLzdqrAr2U-nmsu9iSdQ5UChZc9m-XiavkzOj7Q4/edit There's alot of implications here for lore relating to BotW. Interestingly, while the hero is mentioned, Ganon was ultimately...

I'd rather see a direct sequel to TP. The HoT has had his two games already.

Another follower of the Triforce Wish theory, I see. :)

Yes, it is a birthmark. Oracles Link doesn't become the hero until the end of the game.

Why does the Triforce want to test him, then? The Triforce also refers to him as the ''chosen hero''. Him being called by the Triforce is probably something to do with ''destiny'' or the like based on that.

No, I mean how Four Swords on the GBA(the game that was on the same cartridge as the GBA port of ALttP) told about how Vaati kidnapped multiple maidens(whereas Zelda was the only one captured in TMC), and how a young boy travelling only with a Sword(whereas TMC Link also had a talking hat(Ezlo)...

All interesting ideas DLT. Although I'm assuming that you meant the Oracle games in the second one, not TWW? I don't know if Nintendo will make anymore branches, though. They seem to have settled on a tri-split. In terms of the available branches, I'd like to see a direct sequel to TP, as...

It is. The Link in Zelda 1 and 2 are the same person. The Enyclopedia(yes, even the Japanese one) says they are the same, as does the Japanese official site. There's also this interview: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-story-behind-triforce-heroes-an-interview-with/1100-6431697/ That...

I will say that I disagree with the artwork having any merit; ALBW Link had his look change completely to the Toon Link style in TFH, but both Links are the same. Also, here's official art of Link in Zelda 1...

Wow, that sounds fascinating. I could imagine seeing this in, as a possible example, a fourth branch that splits off from ALttP with that incarnation of Link being killed in the final battle, with Ganon returning to Hyrule with the complete Triforce in hand now that ALttP Link is dead and the...

I think he meant in terms of the games that kicked off the continuation of the whole ''Ganon/Triforce'' plot, but good point. Not sure if we need a third Hero of Time game, though.

So, what timeline possibilities would you all like to see explored? I'd like to see a direct sequel to Twilight Princess. The ending had Link leave Ordon, which suggests a new adventure for that Link. It seems nuts that Nintendo hasn't capitalized on that yet. Plus, it's been forever since we...

We have countless interviews saying that OoT deals with the backstory of ALttP from only three days after OoT was released. The order is still OoT-ALttP in current canon, too. They just came up with a way to make it work with the OoT-TWW and OoT-TP sequences. That's not changing the logic of...

Lol, literally every series ever makes things up as they go along. I'm sure that Skyward Sword wasn't intended when A Link to the Past was released, nor was Super Metroid intended when Metroid was released. That doesn't invalidate either the Metroid or Zelda timelines, however, and yet people...

Yep. We just have to wait for Nintendo to reveal that Breath of the Wild is at the end of the Downfall Timeline where it belongs, and we're golden!

In theory, although since they never make games about the backstories aside from OoT being the BS of ALttP(and even then, they had to compromise in HH to make it all work), it's unlikely.

No. The Imprisoning War was about stopping people from entering the Sacred Realm, and halting Ganon's forces that were leaking out. This part of the backstory was referring to the Sages(probably the Ancient Sages) hiding the Triforce. This part of the bs was probably referring to the Era of...

So, as per the backstory of A Link Between Worlds, we know that when Ganon returned and tried to take the Triforce again, the hero of that era and the Seven Sages of Sealing sealed him in ''darkness''. We see Yuga later use the Painted Sages to free Ganon from this patch of darkness. But, what...

The difference is that the Tarin Marin thing is meant to be a reference for players more than anything; the OoT-AoL town names are given lore implications, with them saying that they named them as such to make it clear that the sages were named after them in universe. Mido and Kasuto can be...

I think it's easier to think of it more along the lines of the Triforce calling out for the hero (of this era), with Link being the one to hear the call, as he's the one destined to be the hero. This is even implied in Encyclopedia which says that the Triforce calls out for a boy with ''the...

I mean the Encyclopedia version is more up to date than the Historia version, so that is the up to date timeline. The OoX makes more sense this way anyway, as Link and Zelda don't know each other in the Oracle games. I mean, every franchise makes things up as they go along, but that doesn't...

Do you think the exact details of the third branch (Link dying to Ganon, etc.) were always meant to be the same?

When do you all think the Downfall Timeline was decided on by Nintendo? I ask not only because of the OoT-ALttP connection, but also because of the village names in Adventure of Link. It was reconfirmed in 2008 that the towns are named in honour of the OoT sages in universe, which was well...

I mean, the events of ALttP are included in that wish, for sure. That doesn't that's ALL that's included. Why would it only extend to this particular era is a better question, IMO. I mean: 1. There doesn't need to be when the timeline tells us that there was indeed a hero defeated by Ganon...

You can't undo or turn back evil that has yet to happen, as it has not, well, happened. That would be prevention, not undoing. This also explains how Ganon comes back atleast once afterward on all three timelines. We know that Link couldn't have wished for Ganon to have never existed, otherwise...

Uncle and the king would be revived, as that doesn't cause a paradox. Ganon winning does cause a paradox if that's changed though since him winning leads to ALttP, hence the creation of the AT(and subsequently, the CT).

I didn't say the Civil War got undone. That was another user. If you look at Link's hand in the final scene of OoT, he has the ToC. Pretty sure that would go a long way in convincing the king. There's also the fact that the Great Deku Tree is dead(albeit he comes back as the sprout later on)...

No, but that might be a good idea.

I go by the Triforce Wish theory myself that states that the DT is the original timeline, and that Link wishing to undo Ganon's evil at the end of ALttP echoes to the past; the Triforce even says the stronger you wish, the stronger the expression of that wish. Someone with a heroic heart like...

What's interesting is that even in the official timeline, Ganon comes back to life only in the DT; in the CT, he only breaks free from his seal in the Twilight Realm and is killed in TP, and the one in FSA is a different guy, and on the AT, he's unsealed from both the seal of the sages(the...

We've seen Ganon and Vaati come back to life before. Is it that much of a stretch for Twinrova to do the same?

I mean TP has alot of OoT in it because it's an OoT sequel, and a part of me feels like originally the plan might have been to make the CT go something like MM-TP-FSA-ALttP/LA-LoZ/AoL because of the MS in the woods in both TP and ALttP, Ganon getting a trident in FSA that's quite similar to the...

I never argued that the Imprisoning War is Ocarina of Time, but that OoT serves as a prequel to ALttP that deals with the IW story by introducing elements involved in the IW and ALttP(Ganondorf when he was still a man, the Sacred Realm before it was corrupted into the Dark World,etc.). Of...

I mean having town names that happen to be identical to the sages from OoT without them actually being named after them is the definition of a coincidence, but whatever floats your boat... What even is your fanon timeline, anyway?

Because every official statement in regards to those towns confirm that, in universe, the towns in Zelda 2 are named in honour of the OoT sages.

Alot of these are obvious from just playing them, though. Such as...? The only contradictory things he's said are things about when games were in development, IIRC, which aren't really contradictions if that was when games are in development, as plans change. I don't think convergence makes...

So, something that I've been thinking about lately is the amount of timeline deniers. Why do they exist for this series, and not others? 80% of the series pretty much has obvious connections to one other game. Zelda 2 is a direct sequel to Zelda 1, as mentioned in game and the manual as taking...

1. The Encyclopedia placement makes more sense, though, with Link and Zelda not knowing eachother, for one thing. 2. Then why do you think this proves a pre-LA placement?

1. The most up to date timeline disagrees with you. 2. The ''foreign countries'' are never named.

Here's the translation: http://forums.legendsalliance.com/topic/14202-translation-of-japanese-game-texts/page-9?p=387752#entry387752

From what remember this wasn't in the JP manual. It just said that he defeated the Demon King Ganon. I'll try and find a translation later. Even so, Ganon's ashes seem to be metaphorical in this manual, and Agahnim is a bunshin of Ganon, so they were under his tyranny. Why wouldn't this come...

So, you think that Link isn't sealed for seven years in this timeline when tries to pick up the MS in this branch? If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, they don't have to be mutually exclusive. Ganon is in FSA though, and we know its not his first appearance since FSA...

Putting aside the fact that I believe that the timeline as it's currently presented in the Encyclopedia and the official JP site is the correct one, there are some issues I have with your timeline: -You place BotW at the end of your version of the DT. Now, I personally do believe it is on the...

Can't be; it has relics exclusive to Old Hyrule, such as the MS, and refers to the ToT as being in the ''birthplace of Hyrule'' which is only known to be true in Old Hyrule(in fact, the ToT doesn't even EXIST in New Hyrule). And you have to explain how Ganon is around despite being Triforce'd...

Before? No. Ganon is sealed until the Great Flood after OoT, and the Koroks are said to have only taken that shape once they came to the Great Sea by the Deku Tree, meaning that TWW and BotW would have to be on different timeline branches(probable), or BotW would have to follow TWW (almost...

No. The JP version of TWW makes it clear that Hyrule is literally erased. Here's the NoA line: ''Wash away this ancient land of Hyrule! Let a ray of hope shine on the future of the world!!!'' Here's the translated JP line: ''Erase Hyrule, the land of the past. Give these children a bright...

The thing about having the FSS in the pre-split portion though is that Vaati can show up in any of the three timelines. He might not return after the ending of TWW, but they could put a game between OoT and the Great Flood that has him as the main villain. Or anywhere on the DT, for that matter.