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  1. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    So, just to point a few things out. 1. As DarthWolf said, all of my above guesses were from D2, before I had even submitted a single guess on my role or alignment. I had Caps pegged as scum, and was reading one of TSF/Moe as scum, as well. By PoE, I narrowed it down to Zinn or HoT for the last...
  2. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    There was a plan here, at least for me. While Rubik’s claim was extremely dubious, it wasn’t outright impossible, since, flavorwise, he might have been future Gohan (the one-armed guy). I found this to be difficult to believe, but I didn’t want to completely rule it out. Furthermore, lynching...
  3. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    1. Would have enjoyed it more if I could have stuck to my initial plan of never guessing anything and shooting DarthWolf every night, but I still had fun. 2. Town had quite a bit of information roles, to be sure, but there were also three negative utility roles among Town, including the...
  4. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Oh, and this game continues to prove my theory that lynching Darth on D1 always leads to victory. :crylaugh:
  5. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Well. This was fun. I told y’all that Mafia would have tried to recruit me on N1, since I hadn’t planned to guess my role or alignment, and, since a second kill had popped up after N1, which went unclaimed, I figured, reasonably, that I was not Serial Killer. So, by D2, I had deduced that I was...
  6. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Hello, all. If y'all are reading this, it must be pretty close to phase update time. I have a funny feeling that I'm about to get axed, so I figured I'd come clean before I lose the opportunity to do so. I was only a 2 shot Vigilante, and killing Lone actually did eat up one of my shots, and...
  7. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Unlikely to the point of not even being worth discussing, especially with the Mafia Roleblocker already being dead this game.
  8. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    You didn’t read properly. Minish had the same target as mafia that night, so Mafia just got the kill first. There is no evidence to suggest any Roleblocker working to prevent any factional kills in this game so far.
  9. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    The role is a Mafia Roleblocker, ergo, it would never be used to block mafia factional kills. Answering the Question would confirm the existence of a non-Mafia Roleblocker.
  10. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Way to ask a Question that you know the hosts can’t answer. :P
  11. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    ...how would a Mafia Roleblocker flipping make the Mafia’s plan to have two players claim Roleblocker so that at least one survives until endgame make the plan slightly less effective? If anything, the fact that a Mafia Roleblocker flipped, and at least one Town member vouches for knowing...
  12. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    There was a Town Silencer and a Town Role Cop in this game. I don’t see why/how a Town Roleblocker is that unbelievable in comparison. Especially to the Town Silencer. Town having two Role Cops, while Mafia has none? That is unbelievable.
  13. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Basically, I find it difficult to believe that Town has two Role Cops and Mafia has zero.
  14. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Look, game should be 5:1:1:1 at this point, since we haven’t flipped Cell. I was reasonably certain, based on flavor, that Broly was SK, but, obviously, that wasn’t the case. We’ve still got one Mafia and one Serial Killer on the loose. I’m willing to believe that Minish can win with Town...
  15. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    I’m sorry, are you planning on killing ME? That sounds like a thing scum would say.
  16. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    ...okay, so Moe could be Babidi looking for Majin Buu's sealed ball, which is more of a cocoon than an egg. Given that Majin Buu is a villain, I'm pretty sure Town doesn't want that to happen, so I'm more confident in this lynch now...which is good since there's only an hour until phase end and...
  17. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    If Moe's role is anything like everyone else's, a DBZ character has to be involved somehow. I'll grant you that Chansey makes sense from the Pokemon side of things, but the only "neutral" researcher I can think of is Dr. Briefs, and I don't recall him ever searching for an egg.
  18. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Yes. I am not stressing out about the game today, because I knew my first day back on the job would be hell (and so it was), and physical therapy would kick my ass...errr arm.
  19. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    :suspicious::suspicious::suspicious::suspicious::suspicious: :shrugs: Again, I'd have thought that would have been Piccolo, which would make Moe's wincon impossible at this point, so he should have been ejected from the game.
  20. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Okay, maybe I didn’t explain it well. Vigilante is a role. Mafia and Serial Killers are factions. Roleblocker blocks roles, not factions.
  21. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Because my role is just a role, not a factional kill. Factional kills aren’t actions, Vigilante kills are. Mafia and SK must have their factional abilities to work, while Town can function without a Vigilante.
  22. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Given this, it is entirely possible that your kill is prioritized as lower than the mafia kill. Your action failed because other ME was already dead, not because of Blocker.
  23. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    In any case, it’s midnight, and I have to go back to work tomorrow. I expect a busy day, since I’ve been out for over a week. I wanted to get all of my thoughts out of my head tonight before going to bed. I think it is as easy as it seems to be, but I’m always paranoid that something will go wrong.
  24. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    This is a Bulba game. Roleblockers don’t block factional kills.
  25. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    The entire premise of my math could be wrong. I’m assuming that -LO is only announced when Mafia achieves parity with “opposing forces,” namely Town + SK, but how would actual neutral Indeps factor in, when they could sway the game one way or another? I mean, even in a D6 1:2:1:1:1, Town could...
  26. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Another theory is that Caps had no ****ing clue that Max was a PR, and it was just an unfortunate stumble. If this is the case, I still believe Mafia RoleCop'd Minish, and, honestly, Occam's razor suggests that Rubik isn't lying about his role. He's gotten TSF and funnier correct right now...
  27. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Here's my thinking on this. It's a little long, but keep in mind that I was literally starting from the ground up. Working from straight up facts and going on from there. I fully acknowledge that I may be working from a faulty premise or two, but I don't think I am, and the logic seems sound.
  28. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    Literally, the only way there could be two scum at this point is if Moe is one of them.
  29. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    I crunched some numbers earlier. Assuming that the game isn’t currently in -LO, which it shouldn’t be, since the announcement wasn’t made, the game cannot be 4:2:1:1:1. If Town mislynched, there is the possibility that it could be 1:2:1:1:1 by end of N5, if SK and Mafia both hit town, which is...
  30. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    I will not shoot Minish tonight. I've been advocating getting blocked, in case you've forgotten. :P
  31. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    If you don't know how much you can say without breaking the rules, ask the hosts.
  32. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    These are the only rules that I see which might prohibit you from explaining your role and wincon. While you are not allowed to give exact wording from your role PM, or name your character, that does not prohibit you from explaining how your role and wincon (which you've phrased in your own...
  33. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    I don't trust that Minish isn't completely bulletproof, and, trying the roleblocker on ME allows a relatively cleared Townie to confirm Zinn's role.
  34. Maniacal Engineer

    Game Thread Guess Your Role: Poke Ball Z Mafia (BMGf/ZD Crossover Event) Endgame: TBA, Town and Survivor Win! (11/7/19)

    How does being a researcher correlate with needing to find an egg? Also, nobody seems to have an egg. Also, also, that seems like a pretty damn easy wincon, if true, considering somebody would have to have the egg, and it doesn’t benefit anyone else, so why not just give it to you? Also, also...
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