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I continue to not understand what thought is going into kills here Well, good luck to town, I guess

I thought you still had both 1x shots left going into this phase?

Okay why do we still have this many idle slots

That's...kinda something big to have not thought to mention at all?

Tbh, here. I'm asking @musicfan myself to lay all claims on the table. No player names ofc, but anyone who wants as much disclosure as you can get, here it is.

That doesn't have to happen? Yes, the game devolving to one person holding town's strings and just pulling them is unfun, not to mention very easy to have backfire like you already mentioned, but that's not what a town leader has to, and should, be. They can discuss and coordinate with players...

oh, I accidentally did, eh doesn't deserve better anyway

...I didn't even put any strikethrough in there, what the hell

The thing is, everyone agrees that's a problem. What do you do about it? How do you deal with a player that's not sharing their thoughts and reasons, regardless of where they came from? Do you complain about an info difference, or do you pressure them and insist on an explanation? Again, so...

It should be now, depends on when any of the hosts can come by, I guess.

Fair. There have been a couple unlimited roles flipped, Cop and Roleblocker, so it's possible, but I don't believe there are two JK roles and a backup.

Just noting that I didn't read that post in question right at all, so ignore this. And they're suspicious to you because of this only now, or did you have some reason for waiting to voice this suspicion? Also noting that you called his claim iffy before... ...this counterclaim. So I'd assume...

Anyway, seeing as Pendio appears to have left again and the lynch on him seems like it'll go through, and Space stands to be the focus of the next day unless something helps clear/confirm her, I'd just like to restate this: Last few messages from my reaching out to him, Calvin and Drift are...

PRs/Neighbors/Masons in NOC? lol I kinda doubt anyone got info because they were more friendly, maybe the ones that had no mechanical confirmation just....went and convinced others to trust them and give them info? 1x Sensor And he implies he has a X-shot passive role that responds to...

Pendio is actively not trying, y/n?

And a good part of that is people telling EMIYA to explain himself? He's claimed to be the 1x Sensor himself btw. I'll grant the musicfan thing is worrying because a selfish/bad town leader is just painful, but you're not giving him a chance to see if he'll be like that? And Garu explained why...

No, that's not it, at least for me. ^ It's people being like this that can make OC games intolerable. But it's a problem with the player that does that ****, not with OC itself, as I think you'd agree. But I also have to agree with Mido, instead of complaining about people having unshared info...

Seconding this question, and what about YIGA's, for that matter? And also, does this really mean anything when about half the game is not around at all to vote for the sake of your role (which is pretty obviously "softclaimed" btw, might as well just do it outright)? Tbh, I think you acted too...

The question is, who? There still are too many people who just aren't in this game for all intents and purposes. What do you think of Space and Pendio, since they're the other targets people have chosen? And yes, please share what you very clearly implied you had against Flop.

I have no idea and I don't care. If Shirou's town, he should be willing to explain himself and actually make a convincing case with his real reasons.

This is sudden. Very aggresive. Maybe you can clarify why/how she needs to be lynched or we can't get information (if I understand you correctly) more than the other inactives that are waiting for a sub? Especially considering that she actually has contributed? So you suspect her because she...

Including you and your partner, so at least you have someone to share feeling stupid with, right? :3 Alright. Ah, good. You've been busy in OC, haven't you? ^^

Fair enough. What do you think of Pendio, would you support it if Mido pushes him again next day? Also, how is 2x Rolecop hard to fake? Unless there were only two mafia, Mido has at least one other teammate to coordinate a fake role result/claim with, and then she can just claim her target was...

I don't think anyone can or will change what's clearly an anti-spam measure tbh, best to just make the required number of posts with a introduction thread or something @Midorikawa "I trust your reads, so I'll vote someone else you said you don't suspect and ignore your actual vote and case...

If it's enough to make you vote outside of your likely scum trio, you can elaborate, right? I've said as much about my reads as is relevant for now.

Vote: Space Feenie's interactions with Mido (and vice versa) are pretty much WIFOM and not worth reading into at all tbh, and Mido looks good otherwise. I messaged Darth for OC and was told he's asked for a sub, and Garu looks good enough to me so far. I'd still like to lynch Finn for actively...

I'd assume because if they just MKed the people they can't sub at this point, it would eliminate a good portion of the game? I highly doubt he'll respond given his behavior/history and the time he's already spent ignoring the thread. Nobody's voted Garu?

But isn't he known for doing **** like this? He's had plenty of time to post something over which I'm pretty sure I've seen him online at least once. Not that I'd complain if the slot is lynched, but the only reason I expect he hasn't been replaced is simply because nobody's available to replace...

Anyway.. Hm, already? That was fast. Not at all. I expect he's been busy with other games and things back on Bulba, really. That only gets me a town lean? Nothing to say on my content/votes?

Nah, I was adding on to your post.

Well, this worked out. Funnier, Jamie, and Lilac are pretty confident town reads at this point, with leans on Bok and Garu. Also, you went rather quickly from "struggling to think of anyone suspicious to you" to deciding Finn was worth voting despite your claimed dislike of activity lynches...

Keep in mind that both pairs appear in full agreement of claiming (the only question is Rainami, and it seems to have been done with her approval). Why would mafia randomly claim d1 and risk a counter-claim, or would mafia risk a counter-claim that would backfire just for the sake of possibly...

Btw, there's now a semi-official general OC chat in the ZD-i mafia discord if anyone's interested: https://discord.gg/GdDxT

Neither pair's claims really seem like scum moves for reasons already given, hence why I'm not voting.

However. Masons are a pretty common role, it's really not that hard to know or learn about them and decide they make a good fake claim as scum, you know? And also checking if they were mentioned before brought up these: Which make me more comfortable with funnier's claim now. Wouldn't cry...

I see. Yes, I am, actually, I've seen nothing better. Vote: A Link in Time There's still roughly 45 hours for anything that might prove better, but I'm staying with this for now.

And why wait to tomorrow Ok, ok But where the hell were you when I was trying to get votes onto ALiT?

Good.. ...But huh? How would this stop YIGA's lynch? By turning it on one of them? This isn't damning evidence now, why would it sway people then?

@Lilac There's no reason to be ashamed of feeling lost, this is a large and active game, and you're doing quite well for it being your first. I'm more than willing to bet you'll be a very good player once you get more experience and familiarity with the game, your first time is already better...

This is... a kinda odd kill honestly? Mez had just enough suspicion against him that I'm not sure why he'd be picked over the other active players. er, what it looks like is that the mafia killed him, is there something you want to tell us? :3 Why counterclaim now? .....Hi!

His misreading me and essentially revenge-voting are real reasons? Not to mention good ones?

what happened there... Anyway! Good post, but:

Good post, but https://zeldadungeon.net/forum/thre...y-1-01-09-2017.60844/page-23#post-1110738]two[/url] posts were made well after the joke phase had ended. And yet, he still kept his vote on, despite clearly having been around" This post was made shortly after the one I just quoted with no...

ALiT

Alright. But the problem with that is that (perhaps due to this being a cross-community game) this clearly wasn't a typical d1 here, and you appear to have missed all of that. Because the justifications were irrelevant, you could have said something then and there.

Hi, welcome to OC. 1. To go further, it makes the game a lot about info management. People can choose who to talk with and what they tell them, potentially to see if/where the info spreads and what happens. Misinformation is also therefore a thing. 2. It also gives players a place to say...

Outside Chat. Simply that you're free to contact players about the game in any way you can, as long as you include the hosts in the chat or send them the logs.

I've messaged one of the hosts, seems they're busy

and I'm just here enjoying how half the players aren't here yet and we're lynching someone who practically isn't playing while scum laugh