hey, don't look at me, I can't draw either. I have also tried to make a game 5-6 times, with almost all of them ending as failures. the only one I did good was a game based off an old arcade game. my latest attempt is Golden Days, I started a discussion about it on 1-2-3. General Lee actually came up with the name for the main character about a week ago. feel free to leave coments...actually, I have an idea that might suit both our needs. Check 1-2-3 next time you have a chance, okay? Golden Days section.