The mention of twilight, supporting the child timeline, is also opposed by a mention of Ruto awakening as a sage and facing Ganondorf alongside Link and Zelda, which only happened within the downfall and adult timelines (it doesn't mention whether or not Link survived, and the sages ultimately ended up sealing Ganon away in both).
The Twilight Realm is also implied to exist in all three timelines, so there could have been another event involving the Twilight Realm in one of the other timelines that we haven't seen yet.
The mention of Twilight seems more like a cameo than anything, I don't think it was meant to be related to the timeline and as you say Ruto awakening as a Sage is much more telling.
But yeah, everyone knows it's after OoT
It's definitely a shoutout from a meta standpoint, but the details are not specific enough to say that it's referring to the events of Twilight Princess, especially since people like Zant and Midna aren't mentioned. Not to mention that arguing that BotW art in TPHD is canon is like saying that Majora's Mask hanging in Link's house in ALBW proves that ALBW is in the CT.The fact that she specifically mentions the key words from three game names in a row is clearly meant as a shoutout to those games. Thinking otherwise is just silly. Also they added Breath of the Wild art to the stupidly expensive shop in Twilight Princess Hd.
It's implied that the 'ancient people of Hyrule' who created the Guardians were the Sheikah... who appear to have inhabited Hyrule long before SS.It seems at least conceivable that the "10,000 years ago" parts are meant to predate some of the other games, as other Zelda games have had ancient robots before. Consider the character Fi, a being who is explicitly of divine origin and implicitly a robot. There was also an entire race of explicit robots from the ancient past who lived in the Lanayru desert. So it's possible, given some artistic license, that the Guardians are supposed created by the same civilization as the one that created these other ancient robots.
The backstory of BotW adds another two attacks to each potential timeline placement, taking them up to a minimum of four times, so multiple attacks could apply to any of the timelines.The DT should win based on that, but to be more specific:
-The Royal Family has the complete Triforce, as Zelda uses it to seal Ganon
-Ganon has lost his humanity, has been destroyed and revived multiple times as mentioned during the final battle in the JP version, has attacked Hyrule multiple times:
.AT: OoT, TWWBS, TWW. Three times.
.CT: TP, FSA. Twice, one of them being a different Ganon.
.DT: OoT, IW, ALttP, ALBWBS, LoZ. Five times. Seven if you include his botched resurrection in OoX and his revival and fusion with Yuga in ALBW.
-Hyrule is in a state of decline, which happens all the time in the DT
-Tunic of the Wild, stated to belong to a previous hero and not requiring an out of game item like an Amiibo to obtain it, making it the only Green Tunic that's canon, looks identical to the Tunic used by LoZ/AoL Link.
As we've already said, keywords alone are not a strong argument, as they could easily be present in currently unseen periods of other timelines... and there are just as many keywords from the other timelines scattered throughout BotW... they are likely nothing more than easter eggs for players to find... just like the picture in TP, which would completely screw up the timeline if it was meant to be an indication of the timeline placement.The fact that she specifically mentions the key words from three game names in a row is clearly meant as a shoutout to those games. Thinking otherwise is just silly. Also they added Breath of the Wild art to the stupidly expensive shop in Twilight Princess Hd.
It's a shoutout from a shoutout standpoint.It's definitely a shoutout from a meta standpoint, but the details are not specific enough to say that it's referring to the events of Twilight Princess, especially since people like Zant and Midna aren't mentioned. Not to mention that arguing that BotW art in TPHD is canon is like saying that Majora's Mask hanging in Link's house in ALBW proves that ALBW is in the CT.
When tf was Zant hinted at by the Yiga?Zant is also heavily hinted at by the Yiga clan.
A theory with a lot of evidence behind it that isn't contested much is that the Twili were originally Sheikah defectors before they got sent into Twilight and evolved.When tf was Zant hinted at by the Yiga?
Believe what you want but imo Twilight Princess was given a Hd remake for a reason, The Twili are obviously Sheikah defectors, the Yiga clan's fighting style and temperament bears an incredible resemblance to an active Sheikah defector we encountered previously who was a boss in Twilight Princess, and oh yea, they reference the game while listing heroics after mentioning 2 other games. What they are trying to do is very obvious, I don't know why anyone would think otherwise.Fighting style says nothing. Kohga must be related to Ghirahim too because he flaunts his body like Ghirahim.
I have no opinion on who the Twili were previously, and therefore won't argue about it, but it's worth noting their emblem resembles that of the Gerudo's, furthermore there are no Gerudo in Twilight Princess, and Midna says they lost one of their kings to his lust for power. I think it's more likely the Twili were Gerudo rather than Sheikah.
They needed a filler while we waited for BotW and TP was the oldest 3D Zelda game to have not been received a remake.Twilight Princess was given a Hd remake for a reason
Assuming the Twili theory to be true, that only means they have an indirect connection via the Sheikah... not a direct connection.The Twili are obviously Sheikah defectors, the Yiga clan's fighting style and temperament bears an incredible resemblance to an active Sheikah defector we encountered previously who was a boss in Twilight Princess
They needed a filler while we waited for BotW and TP was the oldest 3D Zelda game to have not been received a remake.
Assuming the Twili theory to be true, that only means they have an indirect connection via the Sheikah... not a direct connection.
They could even be alternate versions of one another from different timelines... that would actually make a lot more sense.
I meant the Yiga Clan and the Twili in general were alternate versions of one another... not individual characters.I like to imagine that incarnations happen in tandem across the timelines. Like they would still be born at about the same time in whichever of the three was going on (assuming they get born at all). I don't have anything to back that up but the Yiga clan boss being Zant in this timeline so many years later just feels wrong. Does that mean Midna is just gone? She definitely isn't Aya and I can't imagine they would incarnate separate from each other.
Usually though people that are strongly ...linked seem to appear together. I really couldn't fathom Zant showing up but not Midna. And botw has enough npcs to throw her in as well. So I think if they were going to have one show up the other would as well.I meant the Yiga Clan and the Twili in general were alternate versions of one another... not individual characters.
Both would be the result of a faction of Sheikah turning against them, but differing events in each timeline would cause this to happen at different points in history, so different individuals would be involved in each.
And Princess Ruta becoming a sage is mentioned in BotW too, which didn't happen in the Child Timeline, which is a lot more of a direct reference than Zelda's speech which I agree was a meta comment.It's a shoutout from a shoutout standpoint.
Zant is also heavily hinted at by the Yiga clan.
It makes no sense to reference 2 games in the timeline followed by a third that isn't. Just use basic logic. If it was in another timeline then the third time she mentioned heroics she would have picked something from the name of a game in the timeline they were actually in.