Spoiler Zeldawolfsheik's Timeline Theory

[Zeldawolfsheik]

Dying and resurrectin are practically the same. How can he die in one game and be sealed in another?
Look at this, i know it is random but bear with me.

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In both, ganon dies. I say being sealed is the same because he takes some nasty hits in each one. Why would the rather seal him than kill him? Keep in mind the first Zelda game never saw the other games coming. You cannot really count him dying there.

 

[Capitaine]

This has nothing to do with what I'm saying. Ganon is literally walking around Hyrule a free man between OoT's child ending and OoX in your timeline. He can't be resurrected from anything if he doesn't have anything to be resurrected from.

 

[Satsy]

Dying and being sealed aren't the same thing though, Zeldawolfshiek. In OoT he's sealed away, sent to another realm. He's still alive, he's just in another land. Like when he's in the Sacred Realm in LttP. He's still alive, but the seal that was put in place kept him from going to Hyrule until the seal was broken. You don't even need to count the other games for that -- as an independent title LttP explains the sealing. FSA, which also features Ganondorf in another realm, also touches on this.

The difference between when he's dead and when he's sealed, is that he himself can break through a seal. He's shown this on several occasions (again including LttP). He doesn't need anyone else to attempt to 'revive' him because his own power will break through.

This is what's wrong with assuming that when he 'dies' its the same as his 'being sealed'. When he's dead, there's nothing he can do, because he's no longer in any realm. This is why his minions go out of their way to help him. Becoming stone (like in WW) makes the whole reviving from ashes a little tricky, but he's definitely not alive anymore, and not sealed in another realm, either. When he's killed in LoZ, he's reduced to ash so there's little that can be done. When he's killed, in the sacred realm, in LttP, its pretty dang likely he ain't coming back without a little assistance. You can't really seal someone away when you're within the vicinity of the realm that needs sealing.

So when TwinRova are trying to resurrect Ganon on OoX, they're not just opening a door, they're recreating the beast. That's not the same as removing a seal at all, and shouldn't be assumed as such.

 

[Zeldawolfsheik]

But in the end to ocarina of time. Link warns Zelda of ganon, and what they must do, therefore stopping ganon early. Possibly killing or sealing him. They told the king, they WARNED hyrule!

 

[Capitaine]

But in the end to ocarina of time. Link warns Zelda of ganon, and what they must do, therefore stopping ganon early. Possibly killing or sealing him. They told the king, they WARNED hyrule!

No, what they did at the end of OoT was get Ganon executed and sealed in the Twilight Realm. Between Link and Zelda's conversation and the execution, Ganon is a free man wandering the fields of Hyrule, which is also where you have OoX placed. It does not make sense to have to resurrect someone (and give them a new body, mind you) when they don't need to be resurrected from anything and are completely fine in their own body.

 

[DuckNoises]

No, what they did at the end of OoT was get Ganon executed and sealed in the Twilight Realm.

It's worth noting for the purposes of explanation that they could not kill Ganondorf during the execution because he had the Triforce of Power, and even then, the Master Sword would be needed. Link cannot retrieve the Master Sword because doing so would transport him seven years into the future. Because they had neither of these, they had to banish Ganondorf to the Twilight Realm as an impromptu solution; once inside the Twilight Realm, Ganondorf gained influence as shown in TP.

 

[Zeldawolfsheik]

I still think that to be very awkward if he is a free man.

 

[Big Octo]

I still think that to be very awkward if he is a free man.

I don't believe he was a free man. I believe that Ancient Sages may have held him captive until execution, so he may not have been necessarily roaming about Hyrule.

 

[Zeldawolfsheik]

I don't believe he was a free man. I believe that Ancient Sages may have held him captive until execution, so he may not have been necessarily roaming about Hyrule.

That i can live with. the twinrova freed him from the sacred realm. But how come the number of sages changes throughout games?

 

[Satsy]

You keep saying that but that's still not what Twinrova were doing. He's proven, time and time again, that he can get himself out of another realm just fine on his own. They were resurrecting him, which at its very least suggests creating a new Ganon because the previous form is unreachable.

Besides that, OoX contains a fully-formed Triforce. TP does not. Neither did OoT (and on that same line MM). It was also not out in the open like OoX shows it as in the intro. So how did the Triforce come back together and how was it removed from the sacred realm without issue?

 

[PatheticBarrel]

I think you mean retrieve him from the Sacred Realm. Resurrection means to bring back to life that which was dead.

 

[JuicieJ]

In both, ganon dies. I say being sealed is the same because he takes some nasty hits in each one. Why would the rather seal him than kill him? Keep in mind the first Zelda game never saw the other games coming. You cannot really count him dying there.

........Ganon didn't die in OoT. He couldn't. He had the Triforce of Power. Sealing him was the only option.

Link cannot retrieve the Master Sword because doing so would transport him seven years into the future.

Link probably would have been grown by that point. Just sayin'. Not trying to contradict the rest of what you said, though.

 

[Zeldawolfsheik]

How can he die in one and only be sealed in another?

 

[Forlong]

Vaati dies in FSA, so FS has to come before it.

 

[JuicieJ]

How can he die in one and only be sealed in another?

It depends on what is used. With the Silver Arrow, he can be obliterated somehow, but without it, the best that can be done is sealing him.