Races

[Twilipower1984]

can someone tell me how many races are in hyrule?
I was counting last night and this is what I came up with:
Zora -> Ruto
Goron
Gerudo
Fairies
Kokiri -> Koroks
Picori(minish)
Hylian
Human?(subspecies?)
Twili
Sheikah(subspecies?)
Sages
Godesses
the reason I bring this up is because is the creation story the same? if so, how could the Zora evolve into the Ruto?
Kokiri -> Koroks
and what is the relationship between the fairies and the kokiri is there a symbiotic relationship or a parasitic one?
in OOT all kokiri have fairies is this a relationship that was forged or required by the goddess that created the law of the land?
Have the twili been reformed since being banished? we have midna who shows an animosity towards the hylian royal family but is it possible that unlike the religious devil that they have been able to forgive.
I know it's a lot of questions in one post but my tv was broken and it just popped into my head.

 

[Michael Heide]

There's the Anouki in the DS games.

 

[Ghosi]

Well there is "them" but I do not know if they count. Also there is the Garo.

 

[Locke]

Yeah, there's all the races in MM (Garo, Ikanians, Terminians). (edit: nvm, missed that "in hyrule" part. ty MH) You could also separate River Zoras and Sea Zoras. And if you include the goddesses, you should include lesser deities like the Light Spirits, the Spirits of Good, the Giants, etc.
Humans descended from Hylians
I don't understand your first few questions.
The fairies were probably given that role by the goddesses, and it resembles a symbiotic relationship more than a parasitic one.
The Twili that we see in TP regret the actions of their ancestors (who were either sheikah or parts of various tribes/races).

 

[Michael Heide]

can someone tell me how many races are in hyrule?

Yeah, there's all the races in MM

MM is taking place in Termina, not Hyrule.

 

[Twilipower1984]

I just don't understand why only the kokiri have fairies. why are the fairies seeking to help link etc don't they have their own goals etc. Also, the creation story given in OoT says that the goddesses created hyrule one created the land, one gave life to the land and another gave law to the land. do the zoras believe the same thing as the hylians/royal family? do the shekiahs have different stories? Do the gorons believe that they were carved out of rock or other materials seeing as they and most hyrulian races have a tribal structure. The zoras have a monarch. the gorons have patriarch, kokiri follow a tree. gerudo what's there story? is there an alpha race? a race from which all races descend? is there a reason why the hylians are the royalty over all of hyrule why not a goron king etc.

 

[Locke]

The creation story we know actually happened. It's not just a tribal religion. As far as we know, every race believes it, at least toward the beginning of the timeline.
Oocca are the closest to the gods, followed by Hylians. There's nothing to suggest that any races descended from any one race, but we do know that the Hylians were 'superior' to other races between when they were created and sometime around the flood/between OoT and TP.

 

[Pen]

I would count the Bulblins as a race, they talk, they have a leader and they were able to set up an entire camping outside of Arbiter's Grounds.

Although some races in Hyrule disappears sometimes and others appear, and perhaps sometimes it might be difficult to say if an enemy is just an enemy or a race....

 

[T Edoc]

Yes, Bulblins are worth being added.
Dark Interlopers as well, since we still don't know who were that tribe (okay, we know...but certain people don't agree )
And finaly, the Ooccas are worth being added too since they set foot on the land of Hylia before the Hylians did.

As for Termina (side-topic, I know), Garos and 'Terminan Hylians', as said by Locke.

 

[Djinn]

There are also the post WW tribes. Such as the Cobble

The Yook

Could also argue Moblin, they do have a leader in the Oracles

And whatever the postman in Phantom Hourglass is supposed to be

There is also the Wind Tribe, but they could be Hylian/Human.

 

[Twilipower1984]

nice discussion

I like the discussion. One question why/how did the gorons develop a tribal culture? vs monarch for "royal family" and Zoras as well as the gerudo? we know that the zora have a king and a queen. we also know that there is a goron patriarch. and the kokiris worship a tree. I was just curious if people thought it was odd that different groups have a different hierarchy. What makes the hylians/royal family "superior" these are still questions that have not been answered. As for the goddesses, do you think that they set ganon up for failure or is their free will in hyrule because why does ganon always lose.

 

[TheDrunkZora]

It's so difficult to try and imagine Zoras becoming Rito through evolution. (I am hoping you guys are talking about the bird race from WW and not Princess Ruto).
Continuing if it is that race you guys are talking about: If WW takes place where the earth has been overtaken in water (much like the movie water world) and the islands were all the mountain tops of hyrule, then what sense does it make to have to evolve or adapt? They are Zoras who house themselves in water and claim it as there natural habitat. If 90% of the planet had become water, then their general populous would increase astoundingly. Why would they go from being comfortably equipped with gills and fins, sleek bodies and smooth skin, to having beaks and growing wings?

However, Koroks are so understandably Kokiri. My only question, is what happens to the faeries when they become koroks? Do they interlace and become a Korok? Or does the faery die off? (inb4 "you're spelling fairy wrong", I'm Irish, tis how we spell it).

 

[99% ZeldaExpert]

Technically the Sages aren't a separate race they would go with whichever race they originated from such as Saria from the Kokiri. And the twilight are not a race of Hyrule but of another realm so they wouldnt count either.

 

[Djinn]

I like the discussion. One question why/how did the gorons develop a tribal culture? vs monarch for "royal family" and Zoras as well as the gerudo? we know that the zora have a king and a queen. we also know that there is a goron patriarch. and the kokiris worship a tree. I was just curious if people thought it was odd that different groups have a different hierarchy. What makes the hylians/royal family "superior" these are still questions that have not been answered. As for the goddesses, do you think that they set ganon up for failure or is their free will in hyrule because why does ganon always lose.

That would be a hard one to answer without getting into the minds of the individuals that make up said culture. And their own personal system of leadership, if any.

Traditionally smaller groups that live in more isolated areas tend to maintain the family/tribe system. Keeping a system of elders or a chieftain family. But the culture is still relatively family oriented and small. This systems works out well when there is not a large number of people living within requiring more rules, laws and development of a real governmental system to regulate everyone. The Zora could very well be a larger group with more families living within than the Gorons therefore they actually have a small monarchy set up complete with guards, to maintain them. They also live in closer proximity to the Hylians with an easier access. They could be imitating the Hylian system by having their own version of a royal family and palace for them only in the Zora style. The system could also have been put into place due to the tribal wars that happened before OoT. Since Zora's domain was easily accessed by Hylian soldiers the Zora would have to set up their own soldiers and a leader to command them in need of protection. Which later became the king.

The Hylians of Hyrule are following the very old method of might makes right. They have the largest and most populous society and can very well absorb the smaller Goron and Zora communities into their own and essentially make puppet states out of them. Yes the Gorons and Zora have their own leaders but they are still living within the established borders of Hyrule and therefore are under the rule of the Hyrulean king.

The triforce itself answers the question on Ganondorf in LttP. It cannot decide who is good or bad, it only grants wishes to whomever touches the triforce. So if an evil person touches it, their wish is granted. The goddesses have interveined a few times before, they sealed the dark interlopers in the twili realm. Flooded Hyrule to stop Ganondorf, sent the Lokomo to stop Malladus, and according to some retellings instructed the sages on constructing the master sword.

 

[Master Sword13]

I don't think the Sheikah count as a species because Sheikah I think are just Hylians that are part of the Sheikah tribe. If they were a separate species, than the people in Kakariko would all be a different species, as Impa came from Kakariko Village in OoT. They COULD be a subspecies, though. Humans are species all together, I don't think they're a subspecies.