A Link Between Worlds Main Villian Idea!

[Justac00lguy]

That is very impossible and doesn't make any sense considering ALttP Zelda is like 14/15 and Oracles Zelda is about 11/12. The is they're too close in age. Plus HH has no confirmation of another Zelda around ALttP Link's age. Speaking Link's age, another thing is that, as I said in my previous post, I noted that Oracles Link seems younger than ALttP Link in comparison, ALttP Link appears to be about 14 at least considering he still sounds young in-game in the GBA version and I still sounded about that young when I was his age. On the hand, Oracles Link seems about 12/13, younger than ALttP Link. If you actually think about it logically, you'd see it makes better sense that Oracle's Link and Zelda are a different generation of the two than ALttP's Link and Zelda.

I don't know if it would be better if there was a thread made to discuss this topic here, but I'll just comment on what you said and try and reply to the initial topic to get it back on topic.

Fact is that you're basing this off of "loose" evidence, which can in fact be countered. Zelda might not remember Link due to see sort of loss of consciousness, you never know. Also it's no guarantee that this is the "same" Princess Zelda, the whole journey to the land of Holodrum and Labrynna is odd, it can be debated and theorised upon whether these lands are actual lands in my opinion. Also concept art is not a full representation, it's for art's sake, at this moment in time, Nintendo weren't going for full logical connections and continuity between games. They wanted Link and Princess Zelda to be unique from their counterparts, thus why they looked different, trust me concept art isn't the be all and end all.

Now while you have good points, you completely ignore canon evidence, both in game and in Hyrule Historia. Go to page 98 for the actual quote. It basically refers to this Link as the one who "saved" Hyrule, and in game it does as well - during the intro. So the same Link as A Link to the Past was guided to the Triforce and sent to Holodrum etc. There is no mentioning of another Link nor a prolonged space of time for a "new" generation to occur, it simply doesn't make sense.

I think it's fine to try and question these sort of things, but all in all we have to take the canon information if we want to stay on the lines of logical theories.

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Back on topic; I did post earlier on in this thread about your idea, but something tells me that this villain might be from the "other world" - so the Dark World. Now I am entering the realm of theory here so it may not sound logical. Anyway, the Dark World was perished, the Triforce was physically taken out and instead is now kept with the safe confines of Hyrule Castle, of course we know it's not safe.

So basically, the Sacred Realm's initial purpose is now gone, no villain would seek to enter because the initial reason on why it was raided was because the Triforce was held there, well not anymore. Due to this new information about there being "another" Triforce in this "new" world, something tells me that this Dark World is not the same we knew. Now I haven't fully thought out this yet, but something tells me that this Dark World could be from another separated world - running parallel to Hyrule. Think of the three branches of time - they don't meet but run next to each other.

Basically I think that in this world, Ganondorf gained the full Triforce and succeeded, thus why the Triforce is now shown to be in a darker shade - again going off the notion that this is another Triforce - this might not be the case, but I'm just going with that Anouma said for now. Anyway, somehow there could have been a gap in between dimensions that allows for such worlds to connect, this is where the drawing mechanic comes into play. We know that this is big role already and that it plays a part in the story so this could be why we can connect, not simply to travel within walls, maybe this was given to Link to traverse into a whole new world. Now I mentioned earlier a "gap" in between dimensions, now did anyone notice that we enter though wht essentially is a gap in a wall in the new trailer? Well we enter though this to navigate between the two worlds, coincidence?

All this is slightly speculation at the moment, but it's certainly got me thinking more.

 

[Salem]

That is very impossible and doesn't make any sense considering ALttP Zelda is like 14/15 and Oracles Zelda is about 11/12. The is they're too close in age. Plus HH has no confirmation of another Zelda around ALttP Link's age.

So HH didn't say wither it was a different or not, but I assumed the Hyrule royal family is huge and doesn't not consist of only one Zelda per generation, because as you know, Zelda it an extremely common name among the Hyrule royal family, it makes sense to have more than one Zelda at a time, so even if didn't confirm that OoX Zelda is different from alttp Zelda, my explanation still makes sense at least, right?

 

[Seth]

So HH didn't say wither it was a different or not, but I assumed the Hyrule royal family is huge and doesn't not consist of only one Zelda per generation, because as you know, Zelda it an extremely common name among the Hyrule royal family, it makes sense to have more than one Zelda at a time, so even if didn't confirm that OoX Zelda is different from alttp Zelda, my explanation still makes sense at least, right?

Nintendo has never cared that much about continuity when it comes to Zelda, so it's no surprise there are discrepancies that require some mental gymnastics at times. Either way, it's the same Link in ALttP/OoX/LA, so I assume it's supposed to be the same Zelda until it's said otherwise.

 

[Salem]

Okay back on topic.

Is it possible the new villain is one the residents of the darkworld from alttp that didn't exit it when Link got the Triforce at the end of alttp? I mean the backstory of alttp said that greedy people were drawn to the dark world because of the Triforce. Maybe one of Ganon's took command?

It might be like Zelda 2 in a way were Ganon's minions are still working even though he's dead.

 

[VitaTempusN92]

Off topic:

I don't know if it would be better if there was a thread made to discuss this topic here, but I'll just comment on what you said and try and reply to the initial topic to get it back on topic.

Fact is that you're basing this off of "loose" evidence, which can in fact be countered. Zelda might not remember Link due to see sort of loss of consciousness, you never know. Also it's no guarantee that this is the "same" Princess Zelda, the whole journey to the land of Holodrum and Labrynna is odd, it can be debated and theorised upon whether these lands are actual lands in my opinion. Also concept art is not a full representation, it's for art's sake, at this moment in time, Nintendo weren't going for full logical connections and continuity between games. They wanted Link and Princess Zelda to be unique from their counterparts, thus why they looked different, trust me concept art isn't the be all and end all.

Now while you have good points, you completely ignore canon evidence, both in game and in Hyrule Historia. Go to page 98 for the actual quote. It basically refers to this Link as the one who "saved" Hyrule, and in game it does as well - during the intro. So the same Link as A Link to the Past was guided to the Triforce and sent to Holodrum etc. There is no mentioning of another Link nor a prolonged space of time for a "new" generation to occur, it simply doesn't make sense.

I think it's fine to try and question these sort of things, but all in all we have to take the canon information if we want to stay on the lines of logical theories.

Nintendo has never cared that much about continuity when it comes to Zelda, so it's no surprise there are discrepancies that require some mental gymnastics at times. Either way, it's the same Link in ALttP/OoX/LA, so I assume it's supposed to be the same Zelda until it's said otherwise.

Maybe it has to do with Link's wish in ALttP. Someone on Zelda Universe talked about this before. Maybe Link's wish created a parallel version of the Defeated Timeline where it's as if Hero of Time didn't die against Ganon, however instead of being sent back, he ends staying with Zelda and the Imprisoning War never happened, at least not the way it did, ALttP Link in that timeline saves Hyrule as a 12 year old instead of a 14 year old, after that adventure, Link saves other countries like Holodrum and Labrynna via shortcut by the Triforce, somehow Zelda doesn't really know Link in OoX but know that he is the one who saved Hyrule as ALttP's event occured differently on this timeline. On this alternate timeline eventually centuries after OoX and LA comes ALBW. Parallel to ALBW on the original "Defeated" timeline that had the 14 year old ALttP Link is LoZ (Zelda I).

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On topic:

I think the villain will most likely be Ganon. Dark Link may have some sort of presence in the game and make faint cameo appearances but may not truly be a villain of ALBW Link's time until a possible sequel.