I just finished work and took a while typing this out so more has probably happened since I wrote this, I shall check. I've been ducking in and out all day but have not had the time to actually post until now, so here goes, friends.
Or maybe
Just maybe
Storm is a person with bipolar attributes that maybe its a bad day and perhaps you should back off. Do we have to cross that bridge of insensitivity with you? Because thats a fight ill lose like i do always. Now can we play, or are we going to keep alluding to the fact that maybe Storm's not in a good spot right now?
Woah woah woah there. This is just a game and you seem to be taking things too personally. This is only my second game of mafia and I am clearly inexperienced but it is my understanding that we should be pushing each other for information and discussion. Since you haven't been willing to participate wholeheartedly in that discussion, myself (and others clearly) are frustrated with that. Perhaps you're having a bad day and that's fine, but next time it might be best to mention that before lashing out at other people and perhaps you will be able to change how other people are viewing you. I don't know you well so you can't just go ahead and expect me to automatically know anything about any attributes that you have and cater to them. Again, this seems as though you're taking something personally that really is just about the game. I don't dislike you at all, and I'm not going to argue, we should get back to the game without bringing in personal issues. Pushing for information just seems inherently important in Mafia to me so that's why I am (and others are) hoping you'll be more cooperative. No hard feelings.
Zachie and Jimmu scumbuds confirmed.
Not THAT would be a fun game
Okay, so at the moment people are basically for lynching Storm early because of his role claim
Honestly I personally think we need to just back off; I believe that Storm is town, sue me. We should focus on other players, for example; if Storm does get lynched day one, which I'm sure is gonna happen cause bandwagon, and if he is revealed townie, then the people who voted for him as of now and not later on the day should be further inspected. Mafia likes to hope onto bandwagons, so somewhere within the 4-5 people who have voted for Storm there is most defiantly a mafia member. At the moment I'm suspicious of musicfan, mostly of Jimmu, and sightly suspicious of Pendio.
My main reasoning for believing Storm is scum is I have thought that it is reasonable to believe that there is some kind of reverse-phycology tactic at play. I don't think that is unreasonable nor scummy in itself. As a townie, it is best to have players willing to contribute wholeheartedly imo. Sure, losing a townie isn't a great thing, but early on in a game of 18 players it seems to me to be a worthy risk to take.
I think Storm and Karu are scumbuds.
I also felt this a bit when reading the previous post (that you quoted).
First person to vote for Storm was Storm, I don't even know what to think of it so I don't count it.
Second person to vote for him was MF.
Third and Fourth people were Mellow and Bok choy, and they had pretty damn solid reasons as to why they voted for Storm.
Fifth vote was Pendio.
You see, MF's vote was pretty early on and his reason was to 'break Storm's habit' of claiming day one; pretty loose reason to vote for him so at first I overlooked it. But then the day progressed and he hasn't really given much reason as to his suspicion of Storm. I would understand if he collaborated with Mellow or Bok choy on their reasons as to why they voted for Storm yet MF hasn't really much done so in my eyes view.
Jimmu actively talked to Storm and the conversation was, on Storm's side, basically that of given up. On Jimmu's side of the conversation, however, to me it seemed as if they just kept going at him more than necessary. Most of the other players by this point in the day know Storm has 'given up' 'doesn't answer straight' and his reason are 'not well explained'. Just the fact that he kept calling Storm out, saying that he should take the game more seriously and try to defend himself, even saying why bother signing up if you weren't gonna seriously play and just die the first day; it was more of a get everyone to agree with him that he shouldn't be in the game and therefore lynching him is better than nothing. This seems pretty scummy to me
But that's my personal view
Again, I don't know Storm well, so of course I am pushing for information as I would of anyone else that made a claim like that. I don't think this attitude is scummy at all for the reasons I gave above. "As a townie, it is best to have players willing to contribute wholeheartedly imo. Sure, losing a townie isn't a great thing, but early on in a game of 18 players it seems to me to be a worthy risk to take."
As for Jimmu, you think he's been tunneling Storm? Huh, if so, I didn't pick up on that if that's the case, solely the vote scenario thus far. Haven't given the strongest read-up in quite a few posts since I've been focusing on replying to posts. This is partly why I'm intrigued by your concerns over Pendio.
I can consider that Storm isn't scum, or other options, so I'm not tunnelling in any way (if my understanding of what tunnelling is is correct lol). I had just thought based on the posts I had seen it seemed that the attitude in combination with the fact that I suspect the reverse-phycology thing it seems like there is lots to gain if they are scum, and little to lose if they are town. I'm not experienced in Mafia by any means, but I'd have thought that we should try and get things moving quickly so that we can narrow down our targets? My only other game I was Godfather, so this is a new perspective for me to look at the game from.
Can anyone tell me anyone they find suspicious right now that isn't storm? I think we should start there.
Other than Storm, I feel as though karu is scum IF we prove Storm to be.
Those who have been super quiet could be laying low as Mafia for now, hoping not to get caught up in the current drama relating to Storm's claim. I'd like to hear more from the least active here.
Now I have some slight concerns regarding the people in defense of Storm, or rather those who are openly against his lynch. Not saying that being against his lynch is necessarily suspicious in itself, it ultimately comes down to Storm's alignment and the reasons against it. I don't think those against Storm's lynch are automatically scum if he is too, I actually think the opposite as this is a perfect opportunity for scum to bus their scumbud; but if Storm flips town, then I think it would be good to look at those who didn't vote, or more specifically those who were so publicly against the lynch. Because this would be a great opportunity for Mafia to defend someone they know is town if the lynch is based more on policy than suspicion.
I agree that we should look into these non-voting and publicly against players closely.
@Storm , I want to clarify something. Yeah people make the "Storm is storm" argument when you do something crazy. And yeah sometimes things you do get you lynched. But you're not a bad player and it wasn't a mistake you lived in previous games, and hell you were onto me from the second I fake claimed last game. You're a pretty dangerous player to let live but the past few games you've done the right things to stay alive. Your claim day 1 last game, while I kind of disapprove of it, worked out well. Not only did we have to bank on "Storm will get himself lynched eventually" but we couldn't nk because we were sure you'd be protected some how. Or at least I was. You just need to call down and not let a joke post get to you. If you're having a bad day, just let us know instead of lashing out. I think you've definitely growen as a player and are an asset to town. However
Vote: Storm
I need you to start showing that you are going to be helpful, if you're going to be helpful. I really do think you're town but destructive anti town behavior can't be tolerated. I'll remove my vote if it seems like you're getting serious and want to help town win like I know you can.
I think this post is very fair, I'd be more willing to budge if Storm would try to convince us of a town alignment further, or at least, try to be a bit more serious.
