Game Thread Anime Mafia 2

[The Sun Fan]

That debate has not resolved, none of them have further a case or contributed enough that initial readings can even change
The D3 lynch is also gonna depend on funnier's flip
There is no way to really discuss these points right now. What else ya got?



Flash Flash Revolution, member since 06 and TWGer since like 16 or something.

We have absolutely had games where scum refuse to engage D0 because "lol ****posting doesn't matter" and when everyone is use to them only rarely popping in just slowly stop coming. It becomes obvious as time goes on because they will nightkill the most active uses so that by the time F5 rolls around, it's pretty slow and easily manipulable

We also have just had a bunch of towns go inactive because people wont play games they sign up

The thing about inactives is that even if they are town they will bring the game down in a way that only scum can benefit. You can't read them because there is nothing to read, and they likely will not be night killed because they pose no threat. You get to final 5 with 3 inactives and it's just a blind shot in the dark at that point because everyone you could read is dead and now you get to play pick the correct noun

To me, it works better if you risk keeping active scum alive and just start killing inactives d0. If they are scum trying to hide, they'll start posting. If they legit dipped on the game as town then better now then at the end of the game. When the playerbase that proves they can be active d0-d3 starts trying to say less and less you call them out on that and depend the same quality reads and attention to thread. If they're town, you can now easily tell because they are putting themselves out to solve; if they are wolf, there will be a contradiction somewhere---humans are actually ****ty lairs, and the more they have to hunt something they literally can not find the more likely they'll **** up and give themselves away

So as a rule of thumb when you have no clear choice, you lynch the inactives. I've lived out the above scenarios enough times to know the alternative NEVER pans out in town's favor.

someone cover funnier's eyes before he reads this post and read it out to him
tell him sunfan didn't make this post and he won't believe you

 

[Spiritual Mask Salesman]

Laurentus met funnier in the Championship, and brought Silver from his home forum.
Not sure about his playstyle, but I don't think it should be seen as AI.

Sun, funnygurl, and Lar seem to be from Flash Flash Revolution.
I'm a fairly new player, but I only played in Bulbapedia. Nice to meetchya.

I played with one game with Silver on Bulba, it wasn't a very active game tbh. I think he can be a good player if active.

 

[ExLight]

@ExLight what two wagons did you want to see besides Silver and Funny again?

Anyone that hasn't been targeted for a late-Day Phase wagon is fine to me.
My scumread list didn't change much, so Rag and Sun should be fine. Maybe squeeze Minish and SMS depending on funnier's flip.

 

[Rubik]

The shrug icon was added recently at my suggestion and they probably just took the very large image I posted in the thread and used that and the image probably lost quality in being scaled down that much.

 

[MixMasterLar]

If I die during the Night Phase please focus on other debates.

You know it's funny you feel so strongly about it since FG was the one who convinced everybody to get off your case d0.
Said it was "opportunistic" or whatever.

Actually here

VOTE: EXLIGHT

You paid lipservice that discussions where pro town but you haven't brought anything meaningful to the table. If you just wanted to hammer you should have just said that. Instead, you act like you would rather keep going but don't want to force us to keep going so you'll let us make the choice to hammer sooner and not later.

That looks like scum ready to have his night phase and is trying to nudge town ever closer to it.

If you're on town's side lets see some uhmph in ya step man. This isn't gonna cut it

 

[MixMasterLar]

Anyone that hasn't been targeted for a late-Day Phase wagon is fine to me.
My scumread list didn't change much, so Rag and Sun should be fine. Maybe squeeze Minish and SMS depending on funnier's flip.

That's uh

That's more then half the game man

Smug Emoji Here

 

[Rubik]

Me and Rag are from another forum called NGA, although I have decent history on ZD, now.

I summoned Rag here because they're probably my closest online friend and someone I like playing mafia with a lot.

 

[MixMasterLar]

Oh, I forgot to bold

VOTE: EXLIGHT

There we go.

 

[ExLight]

You know it's funny you feel so strongly about it since FG was the one who convinced everybody to get off your case d0.
Said it was "opportunistic" or whatever.

I'm usually a very scummy-vibe boy and funnygurl already played two games with me so she knows that scums that don't know me would try to form a wagon around me on the early game.

Her defending me has nothing to do with it tbh. I wouldn't get lynched anyway.
Wagons around me stop as fast as they start because they usually have no real reason behind it, I'm already used to it.

If you just wanted to hammer you should have just said that.

I literally said I don't tho?

You paid lipservice that discussions where pro town but you haven't brought anything meaningful to the table.

I'm not sure what to bring, sorry?
Detailed ISOs are a pain in the ass and I gave up on making one after 5/15 members.
And I'm making my posture about the Silver vs. funniergurl topic pretty explicit. To me they're both Town and scum is trying to make them the leading wagons to ensure mislynches for the next days.

If you have any interesting topics I'll try to give my opinion.

That's more then half the game man

We sure have a lot to discuss I guess

VOTE: EXLIGHT

cAPS FOR EXCITEMENT

I summoned Rag here because they're probably my closest online friend and someone I like playing mafia with a lot.

Aw, that's actually really cute.
Is (s)he playing as usual? Do you see anything weird in their playstyle?

 

[MixMasterLar]

Bro I don't wanna hear that playing the game you signed up for is too much of a pain in the ass
You say you want discussion, you say you us off what we're talking about but then when we turn to you and ask what else it's at best vague but likely just you asking a question/telling someone us to present you a topic like, no. How about I present you the Silverfish topic and you actually show me posts and work and a logical through-line on why nothing is there worth talking about instead of just telling me to not debate it? And what was that last post? Oh we got a lot to talk about? That's not how mafia is played my man. You wanna talk about the others build me a case, stop telling other people to go talk about them for you.

And I just read most of d0 trying to get a beat on Rubik I know you've been this deflective All. Game. Long.

This is not gonna be excusable play much longer

 

[funnier6]

i mean naming the characters, not the players. Do you not know which characters you're meant to kill either?

No, I'm not told the characters either. I'm glad of that, cause a lot of people are hinting at their characters when theres a rule right there not to do it and its getting on my nerves.

This is a lie.

Unvote
Vote: Funnier

You shouldn't have lied, Fun Fun.

Get out, Rubik. I got some flavor about you sleepwalking which I thought was completely irrelevant to the result if by some weird chance you knew I'd get that. I swear cross my heart and hope to be lynched I 100% don't know anything about your role or character and if I did this is incredibly stupid since obviously I'd know that you would be aware of it and just claim it all up front instead instead of trying to hide it like a moron.

That's our daily claim right?
I don't really believe that but I'm fine with keeping funnier for a while.
Give him more time, at least until the end of D3 and if don't catch scum by then we Vigi can shoot him during N4.

Yes, yes, and yes, it really shouldn't be hard to find scum by dy 4 tbh.

 

[funnier6]

It really isn't. This is the kiddo's 6th game and as I said I'm taking responsibility from it since it was my idea

Isnt this like your seventh?

Are you pocketing him because you're one of his targets?

The extreme stupidity of this statement is that everyone knows that even if she was I would never try to kill her. I would maybe hope she would drop dead of her own accord but I would never and she knows I would never.

part of my case on allmight day 1 was actually that they interpreted my case this way

I don't really understand this response to Ex. Is this supposed to be an explanation or are you shading him because he's doing the same thing you scum read All Might for?

 

[MixMasterLar]

Get out, Rubik. I got some flavor about you sleepwalking which I thought was completely irrelevant to the result if by some weird chance you knew I'd get that. I swear cross my heart and hope to be lynched I 100% don't know anything about your role or character

....then why did you claim he wasn't one of your targets if you don't have the info to determine if he is, or is not, one of your targets?

 

[MixMasterLar]

I don't like that ExLight dipped out of the game.
I actually don't like it looks as if Funnier had to dip either.

I'll be a hypocrite and also call it a night, but hopefully things start picking up.

If ExLight keeps deflecting this phase I will entertain the idea of pushing to lynch him and taking the "Leave it to the Vigi" suggestion on funnier. ExLight acts like he has something to hide but wants so hard to blind right in, and that fits with him claiming last game that he "was lynched for inactivity"

 

[ExLight]

Bro I don't wanna hear that playing the game you signed up for is too much of a pain in the ass

I just don't like spending hours making massive walls of text based on speculations that will prolly be useless two phases later, is it really that weird?
My English is already clunky enough, having to write and decipher whether or not y'all being serious with all these weird slangs an mannerisms without knowing your metas doesn't really help me a lot.
If your main method of scumhunting is by doing that and all I kinda admire you but I can't really do it. I can't really describe my method but it hasn't really failed me so far since it showed a pretty decent accuracy so far.

I think I said it a few times, but I usually start figuring stuff out by myself around D3, not sure why would anyone get mad at me for not pinpointing scums with wild guesses, my scumlist is still mostly yellows and a few oranges, what is there to talk about them?

And 12/14 of my games had 14 or less players, so it's not like I'm used to larger games either, there's just a lot going on but too few focuses and I'm not sure if that should be raising red flags or if that's normal, I'm calling them out because I feel like they're the former.

How about I present you the Silverfish topic and you actually show me posts and work and a logical through-line on why nothing is there worth talking about instead of just telling me to not debate it?

Newer players are unpredictable, what's predictable is what veterans do to them.
"Having a case" on him means nothing to me if it has no mechanical evidence to support it. It would be a lot more fruitful if we gave the players that were on his wagon a look instead.

stop telling other people to go talk about them for you.

I want to have their constant opinion for the record in case they contradict themselves later in the game, I'm not just looking for someone to follow around smh.

Yes, yes, and yes, it really shouldn't be hard to find scum by dy 4 tbh.

oof, N3, I MEANT N3

The extreme stupidity of this statement is that everyone knows that even if she was I would never try to kill her. I would maybe hope she would drop dead of her own accord but I would never and she knows I would never.

Right, if you say so.

Isnt this like your seventh?

14th counting sub-ins. I think. I need to check my Mafiasheet.