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  1. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    But they don't, lol. Wind Waker either takes place on an alternate timeline, or it's just the continuation of the linear timeline. I'm saying it is an alternate timeline, it sounds like uwu is saying it isn't.
  2. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    It may have been, since their starting point for OoT was that this game is a prequel to A Link to the Past, but then by the end it turns into it's own thing instead of leading into ALttP. Well the idea I've been getting at is that the downfall is the only one that happens naturally. Even though...
  3. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    I'm interested to see what you come up with. Actually if the predestination theory is what you are referencing here, I think it's just more proof pointing at the Downfall Timeline as the original outcome of OoT. Princess Zelda says that someone with an evil heart obtaining the Triforce and...
  4. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    Exactly, if Zelda didn't send Link back in time the original linear timeline would have been able to continue on unaltered, but without Link this changed that timeline's history in an unnatural way, making events after that point take place in a new timeline of its own. Oh yeah, with that idea...
  5. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    When Link beats Ganon in OoT the timeline is still on its original linear path. As soon as Zelda sends him back in time however, she altered that reality, it's no longer the same anymore. This starts a new tangent, technically still the adult era, but it's no longer the same because Link is not...
  6. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    Well this is where the Official Timeline terms make more sense. OoT is a pre-split game. The Wind Waker is the first game in the Hero Succeeds split, on the adult era, which many people think it isn't a split but it is, the official timeline even acknowledges it as a split because rather than...
  7. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    Ehh. See if Link had not been sent off to the child timeline than the original timeline that history has occured in up to OoT would still be singular. Link leaving alters the timeline though, so Wind Waker is the result of a change in the fabric of reality, there is no hero so Ganon is close to...
  8. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    Oh, ok, I see your point. I feel like in order for the downfall timeline to occur it has to lead to the final battle, so opening the door of time, Ganondorf reaching the Sacred Realm, all of this is a natural progression. It all chalks up to Link just dying in the final battle for whatever...
  9. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    Then what interference is being talked about? @Uwu_Oocoo2 what do you mean by interference?
  10. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    How is this intereference though? The Hate Curse seems to be some force that is engrained into the fabric of nature. The Japanese text of the dialogue makes it clear Demise didn't make the curse, he was just invoking it, it was something that was already in motion.
  11. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    Actually when Zelda tells Link about the Sacred Realm when they are kids she says it was foretold that the Triforce would be touched by someone with an evil heart, and this matches up with claims through OoT that some of its events were predestined. So this wouldn't be interfering with the...
  12. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    I get your point, but over the course of many games at this point OoT is the only one that was very important to space-time, and this goes back into my point that it was so important, even though it was prevented on the Child Timeline, it's stakes were miraciously recreated because it was...
  13. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    This is a real quantum theory applied to a fictional universe though, and in Zelda it seems only important events are applicable for the theory.
  14. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    I think you are taking it a bit too literally, like every little difference that could happen spawns an alternate timeline. Like, Link decided to wear the Goron Tunic when he fought Ganon, but then there is another alternate timeline where he chose to wear the Kokiri Tunic instead. The Many...
  15. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    Ya ya in Japanese they use 2 'n's. NERD!
  16. Spiritual Mask Salesman

    Is the downfall the natural timeline?

    The original timeline starts with Skyward Sword and ends with Ocarina of Time, nothing after this point is a true unaltered representation of time. The Adult Timeline would have been if Zelda didn't send Link back in time to relive his childhood, but because she did that timeline is left...
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