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vocVOTE: RUBIK (THE AMAZING CUBE (HE'S OUR FRIEND) )[/vite]
NAI
I believe he is genuinely confused about how forum mafia operates but i also think he jumped on the opportunity to "catch" DW and jamie in a slip because he felt it would throw people off his trail. Some new players are particularly fond of aggressively bussing, and OG strikes me as that kind of player. He seems like the type who would enjoy playing in a tricky manner as mafia, and as a new player attacking your own teammates is a very intuitive trick to play as mafia.
This is interesting. Paints OG as mafia, and doesn't give him a newbie pass. Without knowing OG's alignment it is hard to say the motivation of this. I am curious what makes you think this about him though.
remember that hinting at what character you are is not allowed in this game
NAI
@Ragnarokio is your heart filled with fire?
then you better go catch it
...? What?
i have no idea of knowing you're town
sometimes i find you become a little bit paranoid and fatalistic when you play mafia
hi storm i like your hard to follow pop culture references
None of these really give any indication of her thoughts.
this game seems to have a lot of chaos built in so i wouldn't trust night results too much, although it'll still be fun and probably useful to make sense of them as we get more information, just know that we might never "solve" the puzzle.
Vote: OG
still my strongest lean
While her single post about OG matches this vote, saying he's her strongest read does not. She has not talked about anyone else outside of calling Storm fatalistic. With her previous OG post this makes sense, but the explanation behind it does not. I could see her as mafia bussing mafia that messed up.
also beryl's role was very cool
NAI
beryl's death is pretty strange since mafia should usually want to keep lurkers alive. Three immediate explanations that come to mind are:
1: the killer felt beryl softed something and killed her in response. One of her only posts is "what if i'm three cops" and thats a pretty obvious contendor. I would think this points to a bulbagarden player and possibly jamie in particular. In my short time there i noticed they are really big on reading into softs and making plays based on them, and so they should probably be more likely to kill based on this than the average ZD or Px2 player would be. If taken as a soft, the post was fairly overt though, so its not as strong as it could be. I recall jamie seeming to express pride in their ability to read softs and seemed to particularly enjoy solving the game via that method, which is why they come to mind.
2: The killer wanted to kill an inactive player. I've met some mafia players like this, who feel like its curteous to kill low activity players either to make things easier on the mod (so they're less likely to need replacement) or to allow the players more engaged in the game more time to play it. I don't know who in the playerbase would match this profile, but i also think its an unlikely situation because lissi was saying she might need to replace out and was thus perhaps a more probable target for this kind of player.
3: Role mechanics resulted in the kill being out of the mafia's control. This seems feasible given what we know about the setup so far.
Jamie and the other bulbagarden players probably look worse to me considering beryl's death, although is not as telling as it could be because one of beryl's few posts suggested an information role and because mafia didn't necessarily choose beryl as their target.
Nice thought out post analyzing Beryl's death, but I've noticed how almost everything points to BMG players. Her analysis pointing to BMG players is making it look more like Beryl was a frame job. And to specify:
1) Yes Jamie is good at catching softs and enjoys it immensely. And for a while a player pushed a claiming culture on our site. But it most definitely is not the norm. We've pushed back against it in fact, myself in particular as I can't catch a soft to save my life. Admittedly the player that pushed that kind of culture did so when many players such as Jamie were starting, but to group us together is honestly offensive. Our hosts had to input anti-claim mechanics to get it to a more reasonable level.
2) I'll admit I do this. But not for the reason you think. I choose kills that are low information. That leave people going "What?". Not someone who leaves behind plenty of analysis.
3) This makes no sense. If the mechanics are what caused the issue then how does that make BMG players look worse? If it is a mechanics thing then why is it more likely BMG players were the killers?
It is really suspicious that Rag is separating players by websites in this post. While calling out individual players is one thing, she is instead trying to pin the whole mafia as from one site. This makes me think at least two of the mafia are ZD players, one being her and she is hoping to distract town.
missed a line break in my last post and its really tormenting me
Thank you for reminding me that I'm pretty sure you guys ban all forms of edit on here. BMG allows post editing only for grammatical and formatting mistakes. Someone correct me if it is the same here or not.
oh i forgot lissi was replaced by hippo, that makes beryl a sensible target in the case of the second scenario
Only if it was a low activity kill and not something else.
this post pings me a bit b/c it reads sort of like what scum minish might say if she was frustrated with how the night went.
Shade on Min. I have yet to see Rag do anything except accuse others. Min as mafia would have no reason to say she got rolecop results unless a townie came out with saying they rolecopped someone. There is just no scum motivation in it.
HHH claims to have redirected all abilities targeting themselves to rubik
that could certainly contribute to the chaos but it currently explains none of the claimed results
NAI. If we assume the rolecop is mafia, no doubt mafia is just as curious as town about the night results fiasco, so this could come from place of either alignment.
Overall I actually find Rag scummy. Her posts are either NAI, or they are casting shade and suspicion on people. Her most solid post when analyzed is straight up a post that is more likely to mislead town than anything.
Current scum team in my mind: Rag and Jamie.
I would say OG and Rag but I'm starting to lean more towards him just being an easy mislynch as a new player.
