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Uwu_Oocoo2

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I just had a simple idea and question for this thread, it's something I thought of earlier and was curious about. With an excess of mobile games nowadays, there are a lot of people who spend hours on those and have never touched an actual console title. Do you consider mobile gamers to be actual "gamers"? Like, does a game have to be console based to qualify as an actual video game?
 

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They are lowly casuals. A mobile phone does not give the experience of a proper game. Though tbh I don't think anyone who purely plays mobile games actually considers themselves a 'gamer' in the same league as the PC or console gamers.
 

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Because of the nature of mobile games, mobile gaming is a fundamentally different animal than PC and console gaming.

Because phones aren't as powerful as a console or a computer, the graphics need to be what the phone can handle.

Because phones operate off a battery, a mobile game needs to be easy to start playing a game, and easy to get out of. Nice and quick is the name of the game with mobile games, not deep, enriching experiences like you get in console and PC gaming.

Because phones also operate off a battery, no matter how capable a machine or device is, power consumption will always take precedence over performance. That's just the nature of devices or machines that run off batteries.

It's just a whole other can of worms.

What the mobile game market really needs is some type of quality control, because games like Evony, Homescapes, and so on show really deceptive ads that are nothing like the game they're advertising.

Just my two cents.
 
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They are lowly casuals. A mobile phone does not give the experience of a proper game. Though tbh I don't think anyone who purely plays mobile games actually considers themselves a 'gamer' in the same league as the PC or console gamers.
In many 3rd world countries theirs a large competitive community for Free Fire (a free mobile multiplayer shooter).
 
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In many 3rd world countries theirs a large competitive community for Free Fire (a free mobile multiplayer shooter).
I just looked that up. It appears to be a proper battle royale style game but in a poor country where mobile is often what most people have access to rather than console I guess folks have to make do and that's why it thrives there. Most of the games people play on their phones here are candy crush and angry bird style games.
 

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Some mobile games are just dopamine drip feed machines designed to suck money out of people but there are also fun games on mobile, even if I can't find them
I don't see a reason for distinguishing between mobile games and non mobile games
You can even play some games on both PC and phone
 

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Mobile gamers are still gamers.
This idea that to be a "gamer" you have to either be playing the latest stuff, or the big hits from 80s-00s, or some cult game hidden gem, is just extremely flawed and comes off as a poor attempt of create classism inside what's just a hobby to most people.
So yea, I think it's wrong to frown upon people who play games on a mobile. What is the issue with them?

Are the games just too simple? Well, back in the day people would be playing Space Invaders, and Pac-Man, and Frogger, and Asteroids, and Q*Bert. All of those were way simpler than whatever stuff we have today but if anyone decides to stick with them they're "retro gamers".

Oh they don't fully use the potential of the latest games? Well, not every player can go around affording the latest generation console and their latest games; nor has the time to put on games that are made for them to sit and keep playing for hours in a row. And not every company has the resources to develop stuff like that, be it money or luck or staff.

Oh they're repetitive cash grab full with micro-transactions? *gestures at every MMORPG that has existed for the past three decades, plus modern sports and shooters*
 

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Also most of the self proclaimed "gamers" I've ever met, a solid 80%, would be mainly restricted to the same three trendy shooters, sports game, and/or MOBAs. So yea, no. I'm not sure what the point people keep trying to make when they barely realize what makes up for most of the console/pc gaming community.
 

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In fact I think mobile gaming is as comparable as any other portable console. Pick DS' as an example. If you side step away from any decently brand you'll end up landing on super obscure and poorly made games that also have repetitive and poorly designed gameplay, just like most of what you can find for free in an app store. Hell, even for PC and consoles. I remember that the US Xbox 360 online store (rip my shenanigans to access it) had a space for indie publishers to put out their game, some of which were awfully bad, and those didn't diminish Xbox as a gaming potency in any way shape or form. Same for PC, you don't go around judging PC gaming based on the ****ty $2 games you find on steam, so why would you go around judging mobile gaming with the exact opposite logic?

So why did mobile gaming get the bad rep while the handheld console got a decent one? Because the bad games on most other platforms aren't free. Mobile only got the bad rep because people decide to go for the free stuff full with ads - poor developers gotta get some money somehow after all - wanting to strike gold rather than pay for the higher quality stuff, so they end up playing dozens of ****ty games and are forced through hundreds of ads, so of course they end up associating the content put there with the most toxic of garbage. Doesn't help that it's a lot easier to develop a game for mobile than it is for a console, making the amount of stuff put there a lot higher. But it really shouldn't be like this.

Most of the games people play on their phones here are candy crush and angry bird style games.
...those are pretty last decade. Like early last decade. I think you kinda have to catch up with the newest stuff.

Most of the most popular games from the last few years either were published by big companies under a big franchise's name like Pokémon, Super Mario, Sonic, Yugioh, etc.

Or do actually have a real competitive scenario.
PUBG, Pokémon Go, Mobile Legends, Free Fire, Clash Royale, LoL Wild Rift etc.
All of those are some of the top downloaded games in the US and World.

Hell, these days mobile is just another platform to put your game on at launch. Even further, some of them implement crossplay between their mobile and console/PC versions, such as Genshin Impact, Fortnite, Minecraft, Roblox, Brawhalla, Smite; and card games like Duel Links, Hearthstone, Shadowverse, Runeterra. And this is not even mentioning the ones that got ported that don't have (yet) or don't need crossplay.

Mobile also has a strong single player base, with tons of gacha with limited PvP interaction. Yes, puzzle, infinite runners, and minigame styled stuff is still somewhat trendy in mobile. Magic Piano, Helix Jump, 2048, Alto's Adventure, Temple Run, Subway Surfers, Jetpack Joyride. Homescape and Candy Crush are still huge, but this does not mean they're what everyone that has mobile plays, specially the younger audience.

Hell, where do some of other games even fit? Plants vs Zombies, The Room, Shadowmatic... Hell, what even is the issue with non-repetitive non-RNG generated puzzles like Angry Birds, Cut the Rope, Where's my Water? Do they not share common aspects with the flash games that instigated the passion for games of many? Why shoot down whoever enjoys playing game of such kind?

And all of those are just a few of the names that come to my mind from the top of my head. And it's not even getting into story focused titles, a decent amount of them award winning stuff, such as Monument Valley, Sara is Missing, Mystic Messenger, Framed, Florence.

The very fact people are often running their mouth making less of a whole branch of said "gamer" culture without even knowing the very basic stuff is just straight up annoying.

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Mobile games are still games. I'm not too fond of trying to gatekeep gaming. Heck, look at stuff like Genshin Impact and Black Desert Mobile. Those are proper gaming experiences fully on par with console/PC games. Gaming is gaming, regardless of what you play and how you do it. :eyes:

Unless you just play games at casinos.
 

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The only mobile game i have is the pikmin bloom one recommended by @Princess Niki and i prefer to keep my phone for messaging and keeping up to dste with stuff i use game consoles for gaming...
 

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