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Wizard101 Mafia Game Thread

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Also something I wanted to add but forgot (my b on double posts) in response to Pendio: This is my first mafia in god knows how long. Im having a difficult time picking up on different quirks and hell, even grammar and wording that makes someone seem scummy vs. trustable. The content will build with time, as I get more comfortable with the game. Right now, my style of thinking is reducing to straight numbers and playing the odds. ESPECIALLY with such cold leads as we have (if they can even really be called as such) so early in the game, odds and statistics are going to be good friends of ours. If you're in a casino, you can't just have a hunch that you're going to get a blackjack on the next hand and expect to win. Your best chance comes from counting cards and then deciding how to proceed based on what cards have already been played, and what cards have yet to show up.
 

DekuNut

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So, now for Eduarda. A post where people might actually agree with my suspicions. Sorry it took me so long - been gone today. Hopefully will get the Pen one up tonight too.

Hmm. So what does everyone think, is Mafia one of the schools or are they divided throughout the schools?

Also, the voting and damage doesn't make too much sense to me tbh. @Heroine of Time can you clear it up a bit? So you can unvote and vote as you please, but only attack one person per day? Will a death due to loss of HP also result in a day end or just a lynch will result in a day end?
Confusion about... well, everything. Doesn't have to do with any alignment I feel.
Moving on.

I'm unfamiliar with the theme, so I thought that Death was the evil school :P But you guys are right, the set up doesn't make sense then.

@Ver-go-a-go-go do you think attacking players would be a bad idea or should we rather lynch

I personally think we should use attacks to finish off our vig's work if we agree with them. But otherwise it would make more sense to leave most deaths to a uniform decision like lynching (plus it's free :P)

@Libk do you think that Mafia wouldn't need extra pips for casting general spells at night? As they would prefer to only cast at night while town can cast during day if they please. So general spells might favour town more, this way.
First bit is explaining her confusion. S'all good. I admit, the thinking Death was the only evil school is slightly townie, but it's also a good early-game play that doesn't put much on the table. So in the end could be null, maybe on the side of town.
I originally thought that her thoughts on Attacking are also worth mentioning (focusing less on giving people damage, and more on the normal mafia style) but then I realized that actually attacking people costs valuable pips, so that really means nothing.

I think @Heroine of Time would be the best person to answer this but I'll try to explain from what I understand.

Both voting and spell casting can occur in this game, and they are individual from one another. Imagine it being like Jamie's game but the players have an ability to use a mega attack at the end of each day on whoever has the most votes. Also, we're wizards. We don't directly attack, we cast spells. But first we need to build up enough 'magic points' (pips) to cast an attack spell.

@Timeless how much damage do you think the Mafia's night attacks do?

@Pendio since we need at least half of majority (so I'm guessing at least 5) votes on one person to get a lynch to happen, would you be willing to bandwagon on a lynch you disagree with?
So explanation of the game's mechanics, and getting peoples opinions on the mechanics. That's most of it.
This question to Pendio, however, is quite interesting. @Eduarda why'd you ask that of Pendio in specific? I'll talk more about it after she replies.

Really? You'd rather we have a no lynch, especially on day one, that join a wagon?

I would. Any info right now is needed.


You mean like in Avengers, when you didn't have an opinion after 50 pages? :>
Saying that she'd go aagainst her intuition is weird. Is that only for day/lynch one, Eduarda? Or are you saying that you could be convinced to go against your own reads in the future as well?

Im out of country and won't be back until 13th so dont expect a strong stream of activity from me, until then.


So you think Gummy's joke makes her seem town to you, but you say she deserves to be lynched for making said joke? How come? You yourself have made a ton of Gummy dying on day one jokes, and all she seems to be doing is continuing the joke. Every Mafia player on ZD knows the ongoing joke. I don't think she's doing anything new, and I don't think she deserves to be lynched because of this. I've seen you use a flimsy excuse to push for someone's lynch, before, as scum. Though in this case you yourself aren't voting her, the statement still makes me wary.

I've seen how strong Gummy plays so I don't agree with her lynch just yet. But if it comes down to it, and it needs more numbers, like I said, I'll join.

Tbh I'm more confident in voting for an inactive. I'd usually want day one lynches to yeild the most info possible but with four pages ill doubt we'll get more info either way.

Out of the three tbh I'd rather vote Bryant. Sorry. Ill keep a vote for now in case I cant come back to this.

Vote: RegalBryant
And here's where the whole Kokirion/me/her debate begins.
Looking back, she wasn't really pushing for his lynch at this point. She just brought up a point that might be worthy of suspicion later on. She actually pushes less for him and more for the inactive wagon, hence her vote on The Regal One.
Also, as Koki mentioned, she too is throwing shade without voting, but looking back, if anything this just makes my point on him lesser, because she has her vote somewhere she seems to believe is better. So there goes my Day One Koki argument :P

I am with Deku on his decision. I know it isnt much, but the way Koki gave an obvious excuse to not lynch a helpful player when the whole basis for her lynch was rvs (cleaning his hands), and then saying he's fine with the lynch, therefore giving a go-ahead, I think is a better reason than Bryant. But really, you three need to post. I wont mind vig getting one of them, if they refuse to help.

Unvote: RegalBryant
Vote: Kokirion


Day ends tomorrow, right? I dont think we'll get a better lead than Koki. His lynch would alao give us a bit more info, so I support it.
And now suddenly she unvotes and pushes for his lynch.
Eduarda, what happened here? What pushed you to move for Koki?

But wait, you explain it here.
I was working on a reply yesterday but didn't finish it and I can't answer in great detail right now >.> Sorry

The game had been on standstill for two days and JC called me out and asked to stir more activity. While I was away, town started leaning towards a Gummy lynch which I didn't really agree with. I brought up a thing I noticed about Koki, and then voted for an inactive in case I wouldn't be able to get on again before the day ended. I was pushed towards an inactive because I didn't have time to get more activity running. If I had more time to spend on Mafia, I wouldn't have chosen an 'easy lynch' as Johnny put it. Before that, I was already trying to get more info, but didn't notice anything beside Pendio and Koki.

My sudden switch is because after DekuNut agreed with me, I realized that this lynch might be an option and the resulting agreement/disagreement would help us a lot more than an inactive lynch.
But you said earlier that you felt more comfortable with a Regal lynch. You say that you want a day one lynch to have more info, and you felt that an inactive lynch would give you that. Now you come here and explain that, now that it's a viable wagon, you're more than happy to join it. You point out that you feel agreement/disagreement could be more helpful. But tell me - why in the first place did you think that an inactive lynch would be more helpful than a lynch with something behind it?

Now for Koki's defense. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that that part was a joke. I read it seriously. I don't know what else to say, apart from that. My point was based on the contradiction of that statement and the beginning of his post.
And this is the post that proves that Eddie has less of an ego than I do. Puny mortal, admitting that you may have been wrong.

But by now some more interesting things have happened. At the time of DekuNut's vote, I was also surprised he switched so quickly to Koki. I myself had thought that the information wasn't enough for a vote. But later when DekuNut made it a possibility for basing a lynch off of, I realized it's a tiny scrap or an inactive so I voted along with Deku to see where it would take us (this is also a response to the quick switch Vergo and Johnny brought up).
Not much to say about this. I know there should be, but I've got nothing right now. Maybe later. Just separating it so I can say something about the next paragraph.

I find it interesting that it seemed like DekuNut was trying to protect someone by turning attention to Koki. But I completely understand this thought process as a townie so I won't put that as enough for a vote.
I forget, was she the first person that came up with the protection argument? And who did you all think I was protecting? This isn't a test - I legit can't remember.


Very different situations. For Gummy, I said I didn't think the accusations against her pointed to Mafia. But nothing she did pointed to town either, for me. She was a null read. So if it came to her or no lynch, I would chose her. Otherwise, I'd avoid it. While on your hand, you said her actions doesn't seem like a scum thing to do (and by extension you implied you thought she might be town, to me). Yet you seemingly supported her lynch.


Didn't you read day one of Smash Bros Mafia? :P I don't want a no lynch so I'm trying my best to find the best lynch candidate, even with so little to go off of. My behavior now really reminds me of then, which makes me wary because the person I went after flipped town. I still don't want a no lynch but I will probably not be able to post again after this. So I'll switch my vote to DekuNut even though I'm not convinced he's scum, but like my reasoning with Koki, it's better than nothing.

Unvote: Kokirion
Vote: DekuNut


I wish I had more time to scumhunt. I'll make it up after 13th if you keep me that long
And just to confirm, you voted for me simply so we could get a lynch right? That's what this is saying?
Short Version:
I see some problems with her sudden switch from Regal to Koki. She didn't seem to be pushing for him at all at first, but later on, after my vote, came in with another vote. She did later try to explain it as more information, but I'm still stumped how she apparently thought you could get more information from a policy lynch than a lynch with a scrap of reasoning in the first place.
Also, it's the 13th, so welcome back to the game mon ami!

To add onto all this, since my pips aren't going to be used anyways it looks like, I'm going to use a global spell. PMing time.
 

kokirion

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The reason I wanted to make sure I made my statement as clear as possible was so that I would be able to go back and quote it easily, should I be accused for something related to it later in the game. I fail to see how that is necessarily a good move for a Mafioso in particular. Anyone playing the game would benefit from a tactic like that, no matter what side you are on. Also, my mind was never changed. My opinion on DN is the same today as it was yesterday. I already explained why I never voted yesterday. And I did explain why I voted for DN when I did today. Today is ultimately just another day one - at least for most of us (I assume for players like the Cop it is more than that) - so I do not have much to go on about anyone yet. You are right in that I did not add any new reason for suspecting DN when I voted for him, but that is only because I did not have anything new about him to add. I explained very clearly that I voted in order to help ensure a successful lynch today, and that I would change my vote if something else came up. Nothing about this has anything to do with either a change of strategy nor a change of opinion on my part.
Exactly, and that is what I thought was scummy. Of course, everyone will always decide for themselves whether they think a lynch is worth it or not, and if you really don't want to lynch someone then you won't vote. But I found it odd that you felt the need to state this so publicly beforehand. Like you said, it felt as if you were already preparing yourself for accusations coming at you for having obstructed lynches last minute. That is so non-townish because how do you know (at least sure enough that you feel like you must defend yourself because of it already at day 1) for sure that this situation will arise? A townie won't know. A mafiosi might... in this game it's relatively easy for mafia to obstruct a lynch. Of course they're not gonna try to do that every time, but perhaps here and there they might try to take advantage of that. You stating this publicly so early in the game comes across as a mafiosi who is already planning ahead and trying to give himself a blank check.
And about your opinion on Deku. You say you didn't change your mind etc., but that's not what I was worried about. That's not Pendio'ish, to jump from a to b over and over. No, even if you were mafia you wouldn't do that so that never crossed my mind. You're exactly the type of player who would then try to spin it around and say this is always what you aimed for, and at most we misunderstood your original action. So indeed, that's what I assume. But I merely look at your original action, in which you obstructed the Deku lynch. There are multiple explanations for why you did it, and that doesn't necessarily make you scum. Perhaps you really just forgot the time. Perhaps you weren't used to the threshold system yet, perhaps you were busy, perhaps a combination of all of these. But I did find it striking that the Deku lynch failed, and you were one of the active people that obstructed it. And all of a sudden, today you turned around. You try to make a coherent story out of it, but you still turned around. That in itself is not weird, but why not yesterday? Again, this too can have many normal explanations. But it can also not be excluded that yesterday late you suddenly realised it was for you as a mafiosi a better strategy to have been on this lynch, and tried to repair it.


@DekuNut I think your suspicion on Kirion that you have explained makes sense. I would love to hear your reason for suspecting me and Eduarda too, before the day ends.
This too doesn't really make your case stronger. What a coincidence that you say this now. All the time this was an uninteresting case for you, until I mentioned I didn't fully trust you either. Then suddenly the cases against me also "make sense".
Could you elaborate on that a bit more, please?

If you want someone to look untrustworthy in a mafia game, often mention his name and discuss his alignment. It really doesn't matter what arguments you use, asd long as people frequently say someone is "scummy" that person will be seen as scummy. This sentence of Pendio is a perfect example of that, and that's why I'm pointing that out.
 

LittleGumball

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Hi guys. Just a reminder that the day ends in about 8 hours.

I was about to think about maybe switching candidates but after realizing there was so little time left in the day it's not worth it.
 

Mido

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What does this mean exactly? Are you saying that you have become more suspicious of Shroom and Timeless than you are of me?

It means as you said, however, I will say that I like Timeless's recent responses somewhat, even if they don't give much away at first glance. I'm more suspicious of Shroom in this situation given his affiliation to the DekuNut dilemma only arose today. (This isn't to say Timeless was one of the initial contributors, however.)

Short Version:
I see some problems with her sudden switch from Regal to Koki. She didn't seem to be pushing for him at all at first, but later on, after my vote, came in with another vote. She did later try to explain it as more information, but I'm still stumped how she apparently thought you could get more information from a policy lynch than a lynch with a scrap of reasoning in the first place.
Also, it's the 13th, so welcome back to the game mon ami!

To add onto all this, since my pips aren't going to be used anyways it looks like, I'm going to use a global spell. PMing time.

It's interesting that you mention that. It's a good observation, but I think there's more to it:

Eduarda said:
So you think Gummy's joke makes her seem town to you, but you say she deserves to be lynched for making said joke? How come? You yourself have made a ton of Gummy dying on day one jokes, and all she seems to be doing is continuing the joke. Every Mafia player on ZD knows the ongoing joke. I don't think she's doing anything new, and I don't think she deserves to be lynched because of this. I've seen you use a flimsy excuse to push for someone's lynch, before, as scum. Though in this case you yourself aren't voting her, the statement still makes me wary.

Like Gummy said, killing an inactive gives us no info. At least Gummy will. Sorry gurl.
I see Eduardas point regarding Koki, and he may he worth looking into
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Vote: Kokirion

At least there's actually a reason for his death. More than can really be said for Gummy

Her post above came right before your vote as you well know, but notably so, she indeed expressed wariness towards kokirion. From my perspective it seems as though she did push for kokirion in a discreet manner (this of course occurring before she committed to a vote). This very miniscule push towards kokirion was also what influenced your vote.

Honestly, I find myself more suspicious of her than I do of you, if ever so slightly; however, I think the situation at play here, especially given the miniscule amount of hard evidence at the scene, could play out both ways. I see this playing out in one of two ways (under the hypothesis that one of you is scum):

In one scenario, I would wager that Eduarda's mentality of convenience allows her to appear proactive and thereby pro-town, supported by her voting pattern on Day 1. I hypothesized in an earlier post that your vote served as a catalyst to latch on to a potential lynch on her part, which links back to the convenience theme here.

The other scenario entails you taking advantage of the idea and attempting to start a wagon. I believe you were indeed the first person to vote kokirion if I recall right. Ultimately, both ideas are a part of a WIFOM scenario that my indecisiveness only makes more difficult to ascertain.
 

Jamie

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hi. ill catch up tonight.
 

Heroine of Time

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DekuNut cast a Global Spell!

Wyldfire covers the area. All damaging Fire spells now deal 100 extra damage.

Vote Tally

DekuNut (7) - LittleGumball, Shroom, Pendio, kokirion, Johnny Sooshi, Sadia, Timeless

No votes cast: Tristan, Jamie, Doc, Frozen Chosen, Ver-go-a-go-go, Libk, Justac00lguy, DekuNut, Eduarda, Mido

Day 2 will end in a half hour (9 PM MST). With 17 players alive, 9 is majority. 5 votes are required to lynch.
 

Heroine of Time

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Soooo... I totally thought I was in Mountain time, but apparently I'm not. XD I guess it's actually 9:40 in Mountain time right now...

So in that case, DekuNut was lynched! It's Twilight now. Night scene will be up in just a moment.

(And from now on night/day scene times will be in Pacific time. -.-)
 

DekuNut

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It could potentially go either way, but my guess would be that the Mafia members are spread out over at least a few of the schools. Comparing this game to the Green Lantern Mafia game (which of course was different from this game but still has similarities in regards to these schools), I would say it is likely that the Mafiosi are part of a couple of different schools, since I think that was the case in Green Lantern and that worked well (obviously I know this is a different situation but I still see notable similarities).



Or it would be inconvenient for the Mafia to all be part of the same school. Like with the Global Spell for example, if the Mafia (as I suspect) are part of different schools instead of one and the same, that means that at least one of the Mafia members is likely to benefit from the Global Spell if it is used by somebody else.

Vote: DekuNut
So talking about how maf are separated among the teams. Normal game setup stuff that's pretty nice to figure out. I agree with his sentiments, but don't see anything in this post as alignment-indicative.
Except that RVS vote. That vote means he's scum for sure.

*Waves grumpily back to Mido*



Yes! Let us! :D



What if she is seriously ****ing serious rn?



A lynch I disagree with? Definitely not. Would you?

That being said, at this early point in the game there is not exactly any player whose lynch I specifically disagree with, so at this time I could see myself joining any lynch in order to lynch someone. Later in the game however (when I have formed better opinions on all of the players) I should not be as easily persuaded.
Honestly, re-reading this, I don't know why people think of it as scummy. He brought it up because someone asked him a question, and didn't just randomly say this. He said he wouldn't go against his own personal beliefs on who's town and who's scum, and would vote for who he thinks is scum. He doesn't have any townreads now though, so there's nobody he simply wouldn't lynch.

It is a dangerous game we play, friend.
Nothing to see here.

You misunderstand what I meant. On day 1 (when I will most likely not have much of an opinion on anyone) I am fine with it. If I, however, have reason to trust the player who is getting lynched over other players, I will not lend a hand in it. Anyway, I imagine I will probably be willing to agree to help out lyachting most of the time. I just wanted to make it very clear that I am not guaranteed to definitely join a bandwagon only to lynch.
More of the same. He changes what he said previously that this doesn't really take affect Day 1, since he has no strong reads. Makes sense.

You know me.

:coolhecks:
:froag:

Unvote

Vote: LittleGumball
Aaaaand another RVS vote.

:scoobydoo:
:leafleaf:

My apologies for being away from the game for a little while. I see we have moved on to a more serious day 1. I do not mind that.

Unvote



Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean with "feeling pretty decent" about me? Like, is that a good or a bad thing?



It was intended as a joke vote. The only reason I did not remove it until now was because I have been away from the game for a bit. ^^



This is a very interesting topic in my opinion. Thinking of players as valuable or less valuable. I do not think it is a winning way of thinking because it restricts our way of scum hunting. This game I have heard people wanting to spare (or at least something along those lines) Gummy, Jamie, Kirion, Vergo and Bryant. Seems like every single lynch candidate is too valuable to lynch. I think we have got to stop thinking like this. Kirion's vote on Jamie was perfectly fine in my personal opinion. But let me ask you now @kokirion are you going to want to keep your vote on Jamie now, even after he has posted, or will you be keeping it on him?
Checking about other people's reads, moving onto serious gameplay, and talking about the "too valuable to lynch" thing. I don't think there's much in here that's alignment-indicative, since a lot of the meat of it is simply gameplay style. Questioning Koki a little about his inactive-policy-lynching stuff, which is good.

I second this. If DN should die and flip Town, then it would be worth it looking in Eduarda's direcation for scum. Normally I would not support a strategy like this, but since it is just day 1 and we have not got much else to go on, I think this is one of the best things we can do right now. Naturally though, if DN dies and flips scum, then I would say Eduarda is unlikely to be scum too. Anyway, ultimately it is all up to our Vigilante. I would not blame her/him for not wanting to kill on night 1 for instance.
Talking about killing me, and my relations to Eduarda. Not voting at all, but this was in Twilight anyways, so he can't. He also apparently knows that I'm going to survive. I feel like his thoughts regarding myself and Eduarda are shared throughout most of the game.

Hmm... Seems like the Mafia did not do anything last night. That is quite weird. Sure, it does leave us with very little to discuss, so I guess that is a plus for them, but I still find it rather odd. Reading the night scene it seems to me like Johnny was hit by something other than the Mafia. Of course that could have been a lot of different things. I am also quite surprised to see that both DN and Eduarda are still undamaged after the night. I figured the Vigilante would have targeted one of them. Although I suppose it does make sense for a Vigilante to be extra careful with their ability especially this early in the game. Anyway, if it is true that the Mafia actively chose not to kill last night, it means they should have been able to save some pips. What if they have some super spell or something that costs a lot of pips but is really dangerous for the Town? Maybe they chose to save up to use something like that... Of course this is only speculation though. I would like to hear from everyone about all this.
Talking about the night. An interesting idea relating to the mafia, having them hold for a powerful attack, but I doubt it. I feel they still have a factional kill.

Tristan replaced Regal if I am not mistaken. ;)
thx bro
Just posting this much right now because idk how much longer Twilight will last. If I can, I'll post the rest soon. Only a few posts left. As of now though, it seems that Pen isn't as scummy as I originally thought he might be. I'll see if that continues with the next few posts.
 

DekuNut

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I apologize for that. I was unaware that the day would end as soon as it did. It was my bad and I am sorry. To answer your question: no, I do not trust DN more than anybody else at the moment (nor did I yesterday), so to right my mistake on the length of the day I would be happy to assist in the lynching of DN now. I will at least place a vote on him, and then we will see if I keep it through the whole day. At the very least I think something good will come from his death, possibly even a dead Mafioso.

Vote: DekuNut
He votes for me immediately following being called out. It actually isn't until here that suspicions on him really start coming from me, but nothing strong yet. Really the next post about explaining himself is going to be what makes it or breaks it.

The reason I wanted to make sure I made my statement as clear as possible was so that I would be able to go back and quote it easily, should I be accused for something related to it later in the game. I fail to see how that is necessarily a good move for a Mafioso in particular. Anyone playing the game would benefit from a tactic like that, no matter what side you are on. Also, my mind was never changed. My opinion on DN is the same today as it was yesterday. I already explained why I never voted yesterday. And I did explain why I voted for DN when I did today. Today is ultimately just another day one - at least for most of us (I assume for players like the Cop it is more than that) - so I do not have much to go on about anyone yet. You are right in that I did not add any new reason for suspecting DN when I voted for him, but that is only because I did not have anything new about him to add. I explained very clearly that I voted in order to help ensure a successful lynch today, and that I would change my vote if something else came up. Nothing about this has anything to do with either a change of strategy nor a change of opinion on my part.
Here he's actually following the strategy he brought up Day One, which I approve of. It's still Day One really in his eyes, and he doesn't townread me, and I'm the most likely lynch. Kinda bandwagony, but I see the reasoning behind it.

What does this mean exactly? Are you saying that you have become more suspicious of Shroom and Timeless than you are of me?
Once again, checking the status of his place on the scumdar.

I already explained that it was a miss on my part that I did not vote yesterday. I thought the day would last longer than it did, which was why I did not feel the need to vote. Had I been aware of the correct time of the deadline I would have voted, and I would have hoped to prove that today by helping out ensuring DN's lynch this time. There are other players that I would have also been very okay with lynching, such as Eduarda (for similar reasons to DN), and Timeless (due to posts lacking in content). These are both players that I am going to want to look more into, especially if DN ends up flipping Town.
So question: why didn't you vote me yesterday? I know you thought the game day would last longer, but why'd you put it off during your previous posts? I'd been a viable wagon for a while at that point.

@DekuNut I think your suspicion on Kirion that you have explained makes sense. I would love to hear your reason for suspecting me and Eduarda too, before the day ends.
Welp, here it is.
And also, mind explaining why you think my reasoning makes sense? Nobody else seems to agree with that statement (outside of myself of course).
So, long story short: some weird stuff, but overall not enough to warrant a vote or attack from me tbh. I can see how his mind moved between those posts, and I feel like the stuff people pointed out weren't as odd in context as they made them out to be. Still, I can understand where the suspicion on him comes from.

So, out of the three people I ISO'd, I'll say that Eduarda is the one you guys should look into the most going forward. Good luck town!
*goes to die*
 

DekuNut

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I apologize for that. I was unaware that the day would end as soon as it did. It was my bad and I am sorry. To answer your question: no, I do not trust DN more than anybody else at the moment (nor did I yesterday), so to right my mistake on the length of the day I would be happy to assist in the lynching of DN now. I will at least place a vote on him, and then we will see if I keep it through the whole day. At the very least I think something good will come from his death, possibly even a dead Mafioso.

Vote: DekuNut
He votes for me immediately following being called out. It actually isn't until here that suspicions on him really start coming from me, but nothing strong yet. Really the next post about explaining himself is going to be what makes it or breaks it.

The reason I wanted to make sure I made my statement as clear as possible was so that I would be able to go back and quote it easily, should I be accused for something related to it later in the game. I fail to see how that is necessarily a good move for a Mafioso in particular. Anyone playing the game would benefit from a tactic like that, no matter what side you are on. Also, my mind was never changed. My opinion on DN is the same today as it was yesterday. I already explained why I never voted yesterday. And I did explain why I voted for DN when I did today. Today is ultimately just another day one - at least for most of us (I assume for players like the Cop it is more than that) - so I do not have much to go on about anyone yet. You are right in that I did not add any new reason for suspecting DN when I voted for him, but that is only because I did not have anything new about him to add. I explained very clearly that I voted in order to help ensure a successful lynch today, and that I would change my vote if something else came up. Nothing about this has anything to do with either a change of strategy nor a change of opinion on my part.
Here he's actually following the strategy he brought up Day One, which I approve of. It's still Day One really in his eyes, and he doesn't townread me, and I'm the most likely lynch. Kinda bandwagony, but I see the reasoning behind it.

What does this mean exactly? Are you saying that you have become more suspicious of Shroom and Timeless than you are of me?
Once again, checking the status of his place on the scumdar.

I already explained that it was a miss on my part that I did not vote yesterday. I thought the day would last longer than it did, which was why I did not feel the need to vote. Had I been aware of the correct time of the deadline I would have voted, and I would have hoped to prove that today by helping out ensuring DN's lynch this time. There are other players that I would have also been very okay with lynching, such as Eduarda (for similar reasons to DN), and Timeless (due to posts lacking in content). These are both players that I am going to want to look more into, especially if DN ends up flipping Town.
So question: why didn't you vote me yesterday? I know you thought the game day would last longer, but why'd you put it off during your previous posts? I'd been a viable wagon for a while at that point.

@DekuNut I think your suspicion on Kirion that you have explained makes sense. I would love to hear your reason for suspecting me and Eduarda too, before the day ends.
Welp, here it is.
And also, mind explaining why you think my reasoning makes sense? Nobody else seems to agree with that statement (outside of myself of course).
So, long story short: some weird stuff, but overall not enough to warrant a vote or attack from me tbh. I can see how his mind moved between those posts, and I feel like the stuff people pointed out weren't as odd in context as they made them out to be. Still, I can understand where the suspicion on him comes from.

So, out of the three people I ISO'd, I'll say that Eduarda is the one you guys should look into the most going forward. Good luck town!
*goes to die*
 

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Final Vote Tally

DekuNut (7) - LittleGumball, Shroom, Pendio, kokirion, Johnny Sooshi, Sadia, Timeless

No votes cast: Tristan, Jamie, Doc, Frozen Chosen, Ver-go-a-go-go, Libk, Justac00lguy, DekuNut, Eduarda, Mido

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The wizards' fear of Malistaire's minions only grew as the day drew on, and it seemed they had all found a target of suspicion that they agreed upon -- DekuNut. He insisted that he was innocent, a wizard chosen by Merle Ambrose like the rest of them, but more and more wizards started to agree that too many things made him stand out. By the end of the day, their distrust had reached an all-time high, and they agreed that he needed to be taken out.

"You have to believe me," he pleaded. "Please! I'm just a Pyromancer!"

His begging fell on deaf ears as seven wizards banded together. Tons of spells flew at DekuNut -- a Frost Giant's hammer came crashing down, a Treant threw an enormous boulder, and the earth shook and cracked beneath his feet!

DekuNut was a high-leveled wizard -- level 72, in fact -- but he couldn't take the onslaught. Eventually, he collapsed to the ground, and with the final remnants of his power, he did what all wizards do when faced with a power greater than their own (or another Lost Soul on Unicorn Way): he fled.

When the swirl of sparks that marked his teleportation disappeared, DekuNut's spell deck and wand clattered to the ground where he once stood. DekuNut himself had vanished.

The group moved to inspect the spell deck and wand and found that DekuNut was in fact a Transcendent Pyromancer, a student of the Fire school of magic. Everyone immediately felt guilty, since it was now obvious that he had been telling the truth. He had been one of them...!

In fact, the spells that he possessed didn't appear to be meant for hurting others. Aside from the basic spells that every wizarding student knew from the early levels, DekuNut's deck only contained Link and Steal Charm. These spells would allow him to switch around the actions performed by others during the night -- either by switching them between two players, or moving their positive effects to himself.

The wizards departed for the day, regretting the loss of a potential ally. Unfortunately, they could not spend much time to mourn DekuNut's loss, as they knew Malistaire's minions were not going to rest for the night. They had been gathering their strength, just like the rest of them, and they would need to be prepared for the night ahead.

The Living (16)

  • Timeless
  • Pendio
  • RegalBryant Tristan
  • Jamie
  • Mido
  • Doc
  • kokirion
  • Frozen Chosen
  • Sadia
  • Johnny Sooshi
  • Ver-go-a-go-go
  • LittleGumball
  • Libk
  • Eduarda
  • justac00lguy
  • Shroom
The Fled (1)
  • DekuNut - Transcendent Pyromancer (Lynched Day 2)
NIGHT TWO BEGINS!

Night 2 will end on Tuesday, August 16th at 9 PM PT. If you would like to cast a spell during the night, send me a PM.

Everyone gains 1 pip for the night!

Wyldfire is still active! Fire spells deal 100 extra damage.
 
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